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Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Roberta (Black Lagoon) VS Guts (Berserk)

Roberta
Roberta
VS
 

CONDITIONS

-Roberta gets all her equipments ,so does Guts
-They know what each other can do
-In Character
-Scenario 1: Regular Guts
-Scenario 2: Berkserker Armour Guts
-Location:  In a bar
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Zabuza ( Naruto) VS Guts (Berserk)

@Dream
Berserker armour
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Zabuza ( Naruto) VS Guts (Berserk)

Zabuza
Zabuza
VS
 
 Guts
 Guts

CONDITIONS


-Bloodlusted Guts
-Berserker armor allowed ,no edo for Zabuza,we are taking the pre-time skip version
-Zabuza is in character 
-Guts has knowledge 
-Speed equalized in scenario 1,regular in scenario 2
-Location: 
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Lucifer(Supernatural) vs. Kid Buu



 
@Whats_out_the_bag said:

@MrASSH0LE:

Yes, I made a mistake with the Spirit bomb,just like you made on when it came to the speed argument where you said it was irrelevant ,because angels weren't bound by time ,but then conceded that all the hax in the world means squat if you are too slow.

What? Why are you adding words in my mouth.

First, I didn't make a mistake on the speed argument.

Second, when I said it was irrelevant it wasn't because they weren't bounded by time. The idea of speed was irrelevant because he wasn't going to be killed by anything Buu dished at him. He still had the power to go back in time.



Actually ,the following is you clearly dismissing my speed argument ,because of angels not being bounded by time


,the point is that up until he can make the conscious decision of casting the spell ,he is still affected by regular time and restrained by his regular reactions.

Angles aren't bounded by time, but continue.


Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Lucifer(Supernatural) vs. Kid Buu

@Whats_out_the_bag said:

Dude ,if you get mad or at least abrasive so easily when somebody disagrees with you I do not think the battle forums are for you.Do you have a crush on Mark Pellegrino or something ?



I like to educate people about a character, just so they can get what he can do. Everything that is stated isn't always about taking the other character down. I want you and others reading this to come out of this battle with some knowledge about the character Buu is fighting. Battle forums are meant to smarten people, it's an exchange of information and knowledge.


 Battle forums exist primarily as mean to evaluate who would win in hypothetical match-ups.Spreading knowledge isn't the goal,although it may occur as a by-product,this is evidenced by the fact that it is generally seen as noxious to the discussion to get in when you don't know about a character's power, lack of knowledge wouldn't be a problem in an educational context
 
This would also assume I did not know about those feats from Lucy which you had no reason believe aside from the fact I disagree with you on how strong he is. At the end of the day,you brought it up in the context of a discussion about  Buu and Lucifer squaring of,you probably made a little research afterwards on Buu and now this is your way of backtracking.


We've already established killing isn't necessary and it is standard in battle forums that if a character is immortal and can do nothing but get murked over and over again a K.O. verdict is decreed.

OK. That's pretty much the rules of this battle Kill or KO.

But you can't KO Lucifer. To KO him would mean to knock him out, which he doesn't have a brain. Therefore he can not be OK'd.

 
 As I said the K.O. verdict is decreed when the immortal can't do anything but get murked over and over again.Knowing most immortals  don't get "knocked out" ,because of regeneration ,it is simply a matter of can you retaliate.If you had a death match between Jack Harkness and SSJ3 Goku,do you seriously think people wouldn't give the win to latter? 


So you go on to prove he is not harmless to Buu, by listing feats that are inferior to his and attacks below his durability.?

Allow me to correct you, previously I've already listed reality warping abilities. Buu can not do shit if he's a toy or a sheet of paper.

Durability means shit if someone has the power to change your entire being.


Which would be a great comeback if it wasn't for the fact that the "feats that are inferior to his "  were not  reality warping but the bullet-timing,the glass breaking,the earthquakes,the building size and the eye burning.
 
And Lucifer can't do shit if he's chocolate and knowing Buu is faster he can do it quicker,hax means shit if someone can change your entire being.

 

@MrASSH0LE:

Yes, I made a mistake with the Spirit bomb,just like you made on when it came to the speed argument where you said it was irrelevant ,because angels weren't bound by time ,but then conceded that all the hax in the world means squat if you are too slow.

What? Why are you adding words in my mouth.

First, I didn't make a mistake on the speed argument.

Second, when I said it was irrelevant it wasn't because they weren't bounded by time. The idea of speed was irrelevant because he wasn't going to be killed by anything Buu dished at him. He still had the power to go back in time.

Third, I didn't concede on the notion that hax means nothing if you're too slow, because I didn't even begin on arguing against that in the first place.

How can I give up on something If I've never started?



 
Then how about the following ?
As I have already,explained all the hax in the world doesn't mean squat if you 're opponent is faster qand able to take you out before you do anything.

True.


By the way , I am still waiting on  this evidence of Angels being able to fight without vessels in the physical realm.
 


I didn't lose anything when it came to speed, if that's how you look at it. I've simply refused to use any arguments, that I've planned to use next time. See, I like to hold a few tricks in my bag ( hint the name). TI'll repeat myself again, I can win this battle without the uses of speed feats of Lucifer.

So far, we understand Buu can do SHIT to Lucifer. We also understand that Lucifer can screw that kid up in multiple ways, due to reality warping.


It is intellectually lazy that you would rely on tactics such as "I got arguments, I just don't want to use them". It is totally unfalsifiable.
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Revy (Black Lagoon) VS Shinya Kogami (Psycho-Pass)

@SMXLR8
A- I am really just trying to bump the thread
B-The point of a thread is to see other's opinions on the matter,as everybody will slightly favor someone going into a battle
C-Who do you think wins?
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Lucifer(Supernatural) vs. Kid Buu

@Whats_out_the_bag said:




Yes, because it's God's law that angels use vessels and pretty much suppress their powers while doing so. If an angel is on earth without it this gets fucked up, hell an archangel even with his vessel will cause natural disasters all around the world. Just because they are there.

Also this battle is taking place on Supernatural earth, he doesn't need to follow that rule here (This is why settings are important in battle forums)



I was convinced "God's law" was about  permission and not the act of possessing bodies as a whole.God's law is also not a strictly legal code it is also how things function in the universe, in other words Lucifer doesn't just chose to abide by it ,he is physically incapable of doing other.For example, demons and renegade angels also have to use human bodies and they do so even when they think god left.But overall Supernatural's material as a whole seems to imply possession occurs for the same reasons it occurs in popular Christian folklore or paranormal accounts,i.e. the entities are non-corporal(as Castiel states it) and need a body to act within the physical realm. 
 
I'd like feats on that.
 

Oh,by the way no.

Sorry If you've never seen the Buu ARC, but Buu dies by that very same attack.

Also do you mind trying to actually prove this calm?

As for eyes,that seemed to be limited to humans and Buu isn't

Cool. No one said it would work on Buu.

Seeing how Buu can't kill Lucifer how do you suppose he wins again?
We know Lucifer can either turn him into a sheet of paper, or just send him into a sun. But what do you think Buu will do to him? Call me when you have some stuff.

Yes, I made a mistake with the Spirit bomb,just like you made on when it came to the speed argument where you said it was irrelevant ,because angels weren't bound by time ,but then conceded that all the hax in the world means squat if you are too slow.
 
 
As for the eyes,let's remember the context where you said it,I was calling a disembodied Lucifer harmless to Buu.The you countered that by saying that,amongst other things,he could burn eyes by showing his true form.Now knowing we are on a thread about Buu fighting Lucy it would make sense for me to assume that when you are referring to Lucifer that him not being harmless is relative to Buu.My question is why would you bring it up,like the endless amount of other things you brought like bullet-timing,if you concede those things can't hurt Buu?
 


And when was Buu ever capable of KILLING Lucifer? I don't remember anything good enough popping up on this thread. Also I said he would let Buu kill the vessel, it's not like he couldn't bring it back. We've seen vessels get destroyed all the time, their just meat suits.


We've already established killing isn't necessary and it is standard in battle forums that if a character is immortal and can do nothing but get murked over and over again a K.O. verdict is decreed.


Are you reading what I'm saying? I'm stating that their true forms weren't harmless. We know they don't have better feats in DC and Speed than Buu.


So you go on to prove he is not harmless to Buu, by listing  feats that are inferior to his and attacks below his durability.?If a character cannot put out anything to significantly hurt another or outmatch him then he is by definition harmless  as he can't harm him.We know eye burning won't work,bullet-timing is worthless,breaking glass is worthless,being the size of a building is risible knowing  Buu is at least country level in terms of durabiltiy just like Earthquakes knowing the pink thing flies.
 I am still asking you the same question,why are you bringing it up if you know it irrelevant,especially when you were berating for bringing up speed?
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Revy (Black Lagoon) VS Shinya Kogami (Psycho-Pass)


 
 
VS 

 
 

CONDITIONS

-Trigger is unlocked (obviously)
-Shinya  does not have knowledge of Revy but she knows who he is
-Both in Character 
-Scenario 1: Shinya has the dominator
-Scenario 2:He has his EOS pistol and knife
-Location : 
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Winchesters (Supernatural) vs Alucard (READ OP)

You know what this was a good thread .BUMP

Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Lucifer(Supernatural) vs. Kid Buu

@Whats_out_the_bag said:


Angles aren't bounded by time, but continue.


Angels have time manipulation,they can stop time,travel through it,etc. but they still exist within the chain of events of our universe when they decided to interact.As I have already,explained all the hax in the world doesn't mean squat if you 're opponent  is faster qand able to take you out before you do anything.A good example is the fact demons and humans alike have trapped angels by putting them in predicament they couldn't get out of before they (the angels) could realize the gravity of situation or Dean stabbing Castiel. Buu can kill Lucifer before he even thinks of stopping time .It's like playing in a video game and getting shot before you could press pause. 



OK I'll agree with you, he punches Lucifers head off and stomps him into the ground. Lucifer stops time, rips Buu into pices spreads his atoms across the universe and turn them into pieces of candy just for the hell of fucking with his ego. HOWS THAT? ( ´ ▽ ` )ノ

And when did angles need vessels to fight? There's no PIS in this fight to limit Lucifer, he can run around as a building sized invisible, soulless monster.




I am pretty sure vessels were always needed for angels/demons to interact with the physical human world.A major plot point of the series was Michael and Lucifer needing Sam and Dean to be there vessels, because 
A) There current vessels were decaying from having them inside of them(god that sounds heterosexual) and burning up from the power
B) They couldn't fight properly without using them as there vessels.


Harmless? Their true forms are the size of buildings, and simply talking to people they can break glass and cause an earth quake like event. Hell even looking at their true forms, will get you a pair of eyes burned out.


We've already agreed that there destructive power is inferior just like there speed,why are you bringing up bullet timing and damage that is probably country level at best?
Oh,by the way Buu regenerated from Goku's spirit bomb which destroyed every atom in his body. As for eyes,that seemed to be limited to humans and Buu isn't


That's forgetting how fast someone can think, but carry on.


Come back to me when you have evidence ,Lucifer or anybody can formulate thoughts at hs speeds.
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Lucifer(Supernatural) vs. Kid Buu

I would need feats of demons displaying HS speed.But as of right now, I am going by the hypothesis that Buu is the only hypersonic(which is superior to bullet timing) person in this fight ,some people (mostly the Goku Vs Supes crowd) but DBZ character at FTL, but I don't personally hold this belief.As I said earlier ,even if he could manipulate time , Buu would be able to attack him before he could think of doing,the point is that up until he can make the conscious decision of casting the spell ,he is still affected by regular time and restrained by his regular reactions.

OP precised that you can win through KO, he doesn't have to kill him,I am guessing being reduced to an harmless corporal being through destruction of all possible vessels would qualify.Even if it didn't it Buu still ends the battle being the clear Victor whereas Lucifer is just floating around unable to do anything.

Here is how I see the fight going down Buu punches off Lucifer's head at top speed before he can react.

Before Lucifer can find a new vessel Buu has already used Planet burst and even if they weren't trying to destroy the planet this is still the maximum DC showcased.

Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Lucifer(Supernatural) vs. Kid Buu

@Whats_out_the_bag

Actually,speed is a determining factor in every battle so is destructive capacity compared to durability. Buu could reduce Lucifer's vessel to dust and the destroy the planet(hence any other possible vessels) before he could react.

Your question "Is he faster then time" is both nonsensical and missing the point,being that before he can even think of summoning a time altering spell he will be crushed.

As far as I know ,Lucifer is only strong to destroy a part of the Earth and that is when fighting another angel.

Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Lucifer(Supernatural) vs. Kid Buu

Buu is hypersonic,before Luci can even blink,he would get molested.

Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Edward Elric (FMAB) vs Guts (Berserk)

@flashback180:

Ed can and has transmuted the winter automail into harder things,for example he copied greed's armour if I recall correctly

Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Edward Elric (FMAB) vs Guts (Berserk)

VS

RULES

-Manga version for both (Brotherhood Ed)

-Ed's alchemy is at it's peak and he has his winter automail.

-No usage of the Berserker mode

-Ed is bloodlusted,Guts is in character

-Location:

Forest Of Death
Forest Of Death
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Alucard vs Kirito

VS

CONDITIONS:

SAO arc Kirito

Pre-Schrodinger Alucard

Both in-character

LOCATION:

GOTHAM

Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,328 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Guts (Berserk) vs Armstong (FMA)

@taichokage: How fast is guts btw?I am pretty sure he reacted to a cannon ball in his berserker form and some dialogue hints at him being faster then the eye can see.

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