Dude ,if you get mad or at least abrasive so easily when somebody disagrees with you I do not think the battle forums are for you.Do you have a crush on Mark Pellegrino or something ?
I like to educate people about a character, just so they can get what he can do. Everything that is stated isn't always about taking the other character down. I want you and others reading this to come out of this battle with some knowledge about the character Buu is fighting. Battle forums are meant to smarten people, it's an exchange of information and knowledge.
Battle forums exist primarily as mean to evaluate who would win in hypothetical match-ups.Spreading knowledge isn't the goal,although it may occur as a by-product,this is evidenced by the fact that it is generally seen as noxious to the discussion to get in when you don't know about a character's power, lack of knowledge wouldn't be a problem in an educational context
This would also assume I did not know about those feats from Lucy which you had no reason believe aside from the fact I disagree with you on how strong he is. At the end of the day,you brought it up in the context of a discussion about Buu and Lucifer squaring of,you probably made a little research afterwards on Buu and now this is your way of backtracking.
We've already established killing isn't necessary and it is standard in battle forums that if a character is immortal and can do nothing but get murked over and over again a K.O. verdict is decreed.
OK. That's pretty much the rules of this battle Kill or KO.
But you can't KO Lucifer. To KO him would mean to knock him out, which he doesn't have a brain. Therefore he can not be OK'd.
As I said the K.O. verdict is decreed when the immortal can't do anything but get murked over and over again.Knowing most immortals don't get "knocked out" ,because of regeneration ,it is simply a matter of can you retaliate.If you had a death match between Jack Harkness and SSJ3 Goku,do you seriously think people wouldn't give the win to latter?
So you go on to prove he is not harmless to Buu, by listing feats that are inferior to his and attacks below his durability.?
Allow me to correct you, previously I've already listed reality warping abilities. Buu can not do shit if he's a toy or a sheet of paper.
Durability means shit if someone has the power to change your entire being.
Which would be a great comeback if it wasn't for the fact that the "feats that are inferior to his " were not reality warping but the bullet-timing,the glass breaking,the earthquakes,the building size and the eye burning.
And Lucifer can't do shit if he's chocolate and knowing Buu is faster he can do it quicker,hax means shit if someone can change your entire being.
Yes, I made a mistake with the Spirit bomb,just like you made on when it came to the speed argument where you said it was irrelevant ,because angels weren't bound by time ,but then conceded that all the hax in the world means squat if you are too slow.
What? Why are you adding words in my mouth.
First, I didn't make a mistake on the speed argument.
Second, when I said it was irrelevant it wasn't because they weren't bounded by time. The idea of speed was irrelevant because he wasn't going to be killed by anything Buu dished at him. He still had the power to go back in time.
Third, I didn't concede on the notion that hax means nothing if you're too slow, because I didn't even begin on arguing against that in the first place.
How can I give up on something If I've never started?
Then how about the following ?
As I have already,explained all the hax in the world doesn't mean squat if you 're opponent is faster qand able to take you out before you do anything.
By the way , I am still waiting on this evidence of Angels being able to fight without vessels in the physical realm.
I didn't lose anything when it came to speed, if that's how you look at it. I've simply refused to use any arguments, that I've planned to use next time. See, I like to hold a few tricks in my bag ( hint the name). TI'll repeat myself again, I can win this battle without the uses of speed feats of Lucifer.
So far, we understand Buu can do SHIT to Lucifer. We also understand that Lucifer can screw that kid up in multiple ways, due to reality warping.
It is intellectually lazy that you would rely on tactics such as "I got arguments, I just don't want to use them". It is totally unfalsifiable.