Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » DBZ/GT strongest vs Silver Surfer

@ReiKai said:
When they have an Official Stated speed, you cannot go and make up your own speed for them, if they are already there. 
 
If their is no other recent official figure given to Thanos speed then it is whatever they last stated it was.
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » DBZ/GT strongest vs Silver Surfer

@ReiKai said:

" They used chi to hurt and kill Buu. Power Cosmic is magnitudes above chi. You and hitsu don't understand how much Surfer rapes these guys. "

U dont understand that:
Chi = Everything and anything / Inside everything and anything
Chi > Power Cosmic.
Can u use Power Cosmic when you are DEAD. 
Chi is contained in everything in Spiritual and Physical Universe.
 
To kill Buu required Vast amounts of Positive Energy (Afterlife minus Hell, Planet New Namek, Planet Earth plus Z-Fighter, Full Powered Goku SSJ) more than Surfer can Output.
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » DBZ/GT strongest vs Silver Surfer

Surfer has no means to destroy a Magical Being like Majin Buu, a Spirit like Janemba.
 
Majin Buu - Definately beats Surfer
- Change Beam, can change Organic or In-Organic matter to whatever he pleases.
- Several Ki abilities
- Several Magic abilities 
- Infinite Stamina & Ki  

Janemba - Definately beats Surfer
- Reality Warp ENTIRE Spiritual Universe and broke barrier between Hell and Physical Universe.
- Matter Manipulation
- Dimension Portal, opens holes in space so that he can attack from a distance or swallow attack and redirect back to opponent
- Can create a Clone of Opponent, this clone can match the Original in Power Output.
 
What is the Surfers Bust-Ability.  Im guessing just Planet Level.
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Ryoko Vs Goku

Choushin >= Ryoko > Zetto/Z > Any version of goku (anime, manga, movies).
 
Ryoko stomps this.
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Darkseid, Thanos, Golden Amazo, Grundy (AV) VS Freeza, SP Cell

Why is Golden Amazo there?
 
He is the strongest there, beat the living ***** out of everyone in Universe (& copyed thier abilities) in Justice League Unlimited animation.
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Itachi Vs Donovan Baine

@hitsusatsu11 said:
" @Dream: dream so you even read my posts? i CLEARLY said it is a no limit fallacy, but only characters who are much stronger than itachi can break it  "
I dont see it as no limits, because it is limited by itachi's endurance /  Chakra reserves.
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Coyote Stark, Ulquiorra, Baraggan, & Grimmjow vs JLA & Avengers

@Alexman113 said:
" Superman solos everyone but Barrigan. MM mind rapes Barrigan.  Edit: In case you were wondering, adding the rest of the Espada changes nothing. "
Do Hollow / Arrancar have a brain in their head, technically they are a spirit of some kind. 
Barrigan does not even have eyeballs. LOL
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Shaman King vs Soul Eater

1.
Yoh Asakura w/ Amidamaru
Black Star w/ Tsubaki
Death the Kid w/ Liz and Patty
Faust VIII w/ Eliza

2.
Shaman Team
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Pyron Vs Perfect Cell

@Dream said:
" @MisterShin:  Nothing beyond Cyborg Frieza saga, except for the power measurement system used by Babidi in the Majin Buu saga. Which I assume is because after the Cyborg Frieza saga, there was no definite means to measure fighting power since the scouters were trashed? "
Exactly so where does this Tien, Satan & Videl rubbish come from. LOL
It not on the sites i use, Power Level stops after Future Trunks reading which was 5 in his suppressed state.
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Pyron Vs Perfect Cell

For Power Levels go here:
 http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_power_levels
 
Or Even better Here (uses anime, manga, data books etc):
 http://www.kanzentai.com/bp.php?id=list
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Pyron Vs Perfect Cell

@ReiKai said:

" The French are pussies and we all know it.  Is there a publish English version? No? Then we'll wait for that. Regardless I've seen other sources, sites, etc that put Freeza's 100% at 12mil, not 120mil. "

The Sources you have seen Translated the Japanese Figures Wrong, they obviously did not have an understanding of the Japanese Numeric Writing System .
 
( "万" (man) is the kanji for 10 thousand, while "億" (oku) represents 100 million. So if you do the math, "300 man" is 3 million and "1 oku, 5 thousand man" is 150 million. But it's easy to see how someone not too experienced with the Japanese number system could make a mistake converting them, especially since all the previous battle powers in this section of Daizenshuu 7 are written purely in Arabic numerals, with no kanji or mathematical conversion required.) 
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Pyron Vs Perfect Cell

@ReiKai: 
 150 Million PL = Early SSJ, before 3 years Intense training & before 1 year in Time Chamber.
 
Cell wins
 
Try again.
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Pyron Vs Perfect Cell

 http://img93.imageshack.us/i/frenchdaizenshuuae1.jpg/ 
The same thing in FRENCH

Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Pyron Vs Perfect Cell

@ReiKai: 
Japanese Dragon Ball Databook >>>>>>> What your talking about.
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Pyron Vs Perfect Cell

@ReiKai: @Dream: 
1st Form Freiza PL = 530k
2nd Form Freiza PL = Over 1 Million / 1,000,000
50% True Form /  4th Form PL = 60,000,000 / 60 Million 
70% True Form / 4th Form PL = 84,000,000 / 84 Million (I Calculated this part myself using Mathematics)
100% True Form / 4th Form PL = 120,000,000 / 120 Million
SSJ Goku = 150,000,000
( "万" (man) is the kanji for 10 thousand, while "億" (oku) represents 100 million. So if you do the math, "300 man" is 3 million and "1 oku, 5 thousand man" is 150 million. But it's easy to see how someone not too experienced with the Japanese number system could make a mistake converting them, especially since all the previous battle powers in this section of Daizenshuu 7 are written purely in Arabic numerals, with no kanji or mathematical conversion required.)

Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Strawheats vs FF

@willyvereb:
 
How well does The Thing do against swords or sharp objects. 
Zoro can cut through steel. 
Depending on how The Thing copes with sharp object, then  Zoro goes Asura and take out The Thing.
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Goku vs. Bardock

bardock does not have the techniques like goku. 
IT and cannot sense PL without scouter.
Guess i have to go with goku.
 
Or i can make up stuff saying that hard training, he learned to sense PL and has learned to control Precog, then Bardock wins. :)
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Pyron Vs Perfect Cell

Perfect Cell Wins
Post by MisterShin (2,125 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Legendary Super Saiyan Broly vs Super Saiyan 3 Goku

Gohan has 1 bang, but no sparks in aura. Next page Goku and Vegeta have sparks in aura. This means Gohan is just SSJ and Goku + Vegeta are SSJ2.
Images are in the same chapter, so Akira Toriyama did not forget, Gohan was just NOT SSJ2. 
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v39/c002/3.html
 http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v39/c002/4.html
 
Look at the links, BANGS DOESNT MATTER. 
Gohan was not SSJ2, Toriyama did not forget to draw sparks, Adult Gohan never went SSJ2 again after showing it to Kabuto.
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