Yh Nail just takes it, 51/49.
Factor in Namekian Physiology: Regen, Stretch Limbs. Intelligence.
They could help sway the fight in his favour.
Its Official Birusu the God of Destruction is the most powerful being in Dragon Ball.
He is feared by Kaio and Kaioshin.
He has been stated to be stronger than, Frieza, Cell and Buu. He also defeats Goku.
His job as the God of Destruction is to destroy celestial bodies and life. (Stars, Planets etc) This in some way maintains the balance of the Universe.
Piccolo states that if he is not stopped then the Galaxy could cease to exist.
So no? :)
The movie is canon. It takes place between Manga Chapters 517 and 518. It also has DEEP involvement with the Author Akira Toriyama.
With it fitting in the ORIGINAL MANGA story line and featuring deep involvement with the creator, i dont think you can get more canon than that in a movie. LOL
Unless the creator comes out and says it not part of the original story. T_T
@Sonata: Yh its not a good sign.
Superman is gonna go sun-dip.
I think Goku should be given his Other-world body to balance it. Sun-dip is way more powerful and useful than a Senzu bean.
Senzu Bean is only useful, when your at a near death state or extremely low on energy. Goku was neither of these when he used it, but oh well.
Sun-dip and Other-world body are equal in a sense to me, considering they give Superman MORE POWER and Goku MORE RESERVES of ENERGY.
Your first point no, If they are the same speed then they cannot move out the way to dodge, because they are limited by speed. E.g. Sasuke trying to mimic Rock Lee's move or dodge, but his body didnt have the speed, so he had to train his speed. (Besides Black Star can predict movements too, big woop)
Black Star has unorthodox techniques which bypass Sharingan so your point in mute.
Black Star has had clones since chapter 1. HIS A DARN NINJA.
Substitutions/Clones etc Black Star has them....Hello Ninja? Do u really know who Sasuke is up against?
CHAPTER 1: (Substitution)
This aint Naruto where hand seals are required, Black Star does this on the fly.
Renders Substitution, Clones, Illusions and the like useless, because he knows exactly where you are regardless. (Come again, Clutching at Straws???)
Sasuke is clearly outclassed in this department.
Black Star lifts and throws, the MOON'S TOOTH. Thats a greater feat that ZORO lifting and throwing a HOUSE.
http://mangafox.me/manga/one_piece/v21/c194/17.html (Zoro lifting and throwing house)
His physical blows rips out chunks of peoples bodies.
FIGHT: Black Star wins, Close, Mid and Long Range.
Are you kidding? Sorry but if you cast your mind back the sharingan did have some uses before MS besides genjutsu. Of course it still matters, their speeds being equal has nothing to do with it. Sasuke will be able to see every attack coming, how is that not a huge advantage?
And let's make something clear; Sasuke is far more versatile than BS. He has clones, ninja weapons, multiple variants of chidori, a range of fire jutsu, substitutions (which exploding tags can be attached to) and kirin. BS will be attacking head on, whereas Sasuke could do that, go for deception or use his techniques as a setup for Kirin, which is an insta win if he pulls it off.
B*S would also be able to see all of Sasuke's attacks coming its not an advantage! speed is equal remember (even if you can see it in advance you can only move as fast as your body will allow, B*S has greater reactions than Sasuke as well).
Clone, ninja weapons, substitutions B*S can do them too.
Black Star does not have to attack head on, he has mid and long range attack too.
Black Star has good sensing abilities and also has the 6th Sense, Soul Perception.
So Sasuke clones would be easily seen though, since Sasuke cannot perform the shadow clone. Kirin requires a lot of prep which aint gonna happen in this fight TBH, in the manga it required a large coverage of Amataratsu spread and several fire jutsu shot into the sky, to change the atmosphere and create a 'Natural' storm.
B*S can keep firing shadow swords and and shadow scarf from range if he likes, they are easily capable of cutting Sasuke in two.
@GIRUGAMESH: His Sharingan is rendered pretty much useless by the OP.
No Genjutsu and No MS. That means sharingan can only be used for movement, but that doesn't matter because they are the same speed anyway.
Kirin requires prep, Chidori wont be a problem due to B*S versatility and multitude of weapons.
If Sasuke comes in for a Chidori, B*S can perform a Soul Wavelength attack at the same time or use one of his many weapons.
@Haofan123: Its Pre MS Sasuke, so B*S stomps.
Newest Special ability
@GIRUGAMESH: Azusa bullets are Mach 18. http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=16297.
Mifune was reacting to those, yet struggled to react to B*S and was forced to limit his movements with Infinite Sword style. B*S has since become much more powerful and received about two or three power-ups (Short Time-skip, Madness power-up).
@valfranx: yeah the multipliers are kinda like that but not so high.
SSJ = 50x base
SSJ2 = 2x SSJ or 100x base
SSJ3 = 4x SSJ2 or 400x base
If SSJ = (3,000 kiri)
then SSJ2 = (6,000 kiri)
and SSJ3 = (24,000 kiri)
Every member of the Ginyu force is a Casual Moon Buster.
With prep, Body Change and Time Stop will prove essential.
Only those with greater than Moon Level durability will pose a protential threat.
They cant clear it with the likes of MM & GL in there, but they get very far.
Well im just say Kid Buu powerlevel is at the very very very least above (7,000,000,000) 7 Billion.
Kid Buu could push back the Super Spirit Bomb, which held the Ki of over 7 Billion people (not to mention Z-warriors including Gohan, Earth, Namek, Otherworld/Enma Daio, Kiaoshin Planet and mini suns on the planet)
The is a very very low estimate on Kid Buu powerlevel, supposing the Super Spirit Bomb only took (1pl scouter reading of Ki from every single person, which it obviously didnt. It took more!)
I personally think a fair estimate would be 15 Billion for Kid Buu, taking into account the powerhouses that beefed up the Super Spirit Bomb.