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Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Broly Gaunlet


hillarious how people actually think he will get passed majin vegeta when he is stronger then ss2 teen gohan and broly is not stronger then ss2 gohan that is hillarious he wont get passed number 2 and number 1 would put up a fight
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » krillin vs frieza

@MsAyeka said:
"Someone better get the dragon balls for krillin "

lol
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » krillin vs frieza


krillin end of dbz

vs  
frieza 100%  
could he win

Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Dragon Ball » Are Broly, Super Saiyan Goku 3 and Kid Buu Galaxy Busters ?

@burby8100 said:
"@ktarinze:
WRONG AGAIN in broly second movie he beat... no he nearly destoryed gohan while gohan was ssj2 how?Daizenshuu provides proof of Gohan as a SSJ2 in the film.

There has been much debate over whether Gohan was a Super Saiyan or a Super Saiyan 2 while battling against Broly. However, the Daizenshuu provides sketches of Gohan from movies #9 and #10, which clearly showcases his Super Saiyan 2 form for this film.


       
"
WRONG WRONG WRONG AND WRONG i was talking about teen gohan who is way stronger then that gohan and even though gohan was losing still put up a good fight against broly ss2 teen gohan would beat broly
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Dragon Ball » Are Broly, Super Saiyan Goku 3 and Kid Buu Galaxy Busters ?

@burby8100 said:
"@ktarinze: no he's not over ratted he just not complete and leaves people with a question mark. example people did'nt really like him because he was big and bulky then his orgin with the saiyans and why he hates goku is stupid hell he should have hated vegeta and to top it off to most fans or people who just watch the show he like unbeatable which makes peoploe mad when it seemed goku would'nt beat him so that's why people hate him. "

wrong not close to unbeatable ss2 gohan can beat him also most people like him then hate him he is a cool character but very overrated
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenlong) vs Janembuu

@hitsusatsu11 said:
" @ktarinze: Mystic Buu and Janemba "

still bad for him either way it goes
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenlong) vs Janembuu


janembuu wins im guessing this is kid buu and janemba fused and they both were beating the hell out of ss3 goku them combined = strongest dbz character
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Tenshinhan Gauntlet

@hitsusatsu11 said:
" @ktarinze: I think Ten could easily destroy a planet. But yes your point is true, while I'm sure the Kikoho would kill Freeza, the androids and first form Cell, the tough part is him being able to use it effectively. As you said, he wasn't fighting semi perfect Cell head on when he used the Shin Kikoho.  But remember Ten is a fighting genius.   He could use shishin, surround his enemy with 3 Ten's (at 1/4 strength though) 1 Ten use Taiyo ken 4 Ten's reform into one Shin Kikoho "

yea i agree it would be great to see him fight alot of these people head on because the only time he really did fight people in dbz was the saiyan saga
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Tenshinhan Gauntlet

@hitsusatsu11 said:
" @ktarinze: You din't think the same Shin Kikoho (Neo Tri Beam) that held down semi perfect Cell could kill a lesser jinzoningen, say android 19 or 18? And im sure end Z Ten's kikoho>> Cell saga Ten's kikoho. "

i dont know if it would kill him it would hurt him badly but i dont know if it would kill him frieza has survived a destruction of a planet i dont know if that blast had the same amount of force also tien isnt going to land a sneak attack like he did against cell 2nd form
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Tenshinhan Gauntlet


i say he stops at 100% frieza in a good fight
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Broly Gaunlet

@hitsusatsu11 said:

" @ktarinze:   I see SPC having the advantage of Regen, Shunkan Ido (IT), and all the Z senshi's techniques. However I think Broly has way way to much power for him.   If I were SPC fighting Broly I would IT away to another galaxy, gather as much ki as I could, then come in with an instant solar kamehameha. And then IT away and repeat, spamming those attacks.  SPC would have to use all his wits and be bloodlusted, while Broly would have to be in character and try to toy with Cell.  Still Broly would win im pretty sure.  Broly>>>>>>>>>>Adult Gohan>>>50% teen gohan>or=SPC "


guess we will have to agree to disagree except about the adult gohan one that is right 
but i think ss2 gohan> broly or cell and broly = cell
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » vegeta gauntlet

@hitsusatsu11 said:
" @rein said:
" when has skill ever mattered post time skip? The stronger person Wails on the weaker one. That's the basic formula for DBZ battles. Vegeta stops at gohan. "
This is very true.  However, we must take into account the bad ass factor of Vegeta-sama.  "

not always true in dbz but yea alot of the time it does happen like that
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Broly Gaunlet

@hitsusatsu11 said:
" @ktarinze: How could SPC give broly a good fight? A 50% one armed Gohan beat SPC's strongest blast. Now even if due to lack of training teen gohan>>adult gohan, adult gohan still was not at 50% like vs Cell, but at 100% against Broly.  "

it would be a good fight yes cell lost but he is the reason gohan had one arm anyways and also due to the way broly was defeated in the 1st movie cell does put up a good fight ss2 gohan> cell or broly if cell and broly fought it could go either way
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » piccolo gauntlet


piccolo during frieza saga 
1. didoria

2. zarbon 2nd form 
3. recome  
4. captain ginyu 
5. frieza 2nd form

does he run it

Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Vegito vs Mystic Buu and Janemba


vegitto still wins its harder for individuals to beat somebody seperate now if they were to combine there powers they would have a good chance
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Broly Gaunlet

@hitsusatsu11 said:
"ssj is 50x base 
ssj2 is 100x base 
ssj3 is 400x base 
 
This leads me to ask, what is LSSJ? 
 
I believe when Broly is in base form, then go's ssj he gets a 50x boost, like normal. Then when he enters LSSJ, he gets an explosive increase of ki (not sure by what factor, like if it is 100x base like ssj2 or what) and while in LSSJ it seems Broly's ki continually rises in battle.  
 
Clearly Broly's ki is tremendous, but at ssj3 Goku's was bigger. Broly's ki was felt from the destroyed southern galaxy all the way to the north galaxy and even to Kaiosama's planet. However Goku's ki not only trembled the entire earth (as did even Nappa's, Vegeta's and Cell's) but Goku's ki was felt beyond Kaiosama's planet, all the way to the Holy Kaioshin Realm. Now this is a place described as being so far above the afterlife and all other kaioworlds (including kaiosama's) that few (even lower ranked kai's) know where it is or are allowed on there. Its like the holiest, most remote, highest level in the DBU. For Goku's ki to be felt there, (and not only felt but startle Gohan and Kibit) is truly amazing. 
 

Goku's ki while powering up
Goku's ki while powering up


Kibit is amazed at Goku's ki reaching the holy realm
Kibit is amazed at Goku's ki reaching the holy realm


Startles Gohan who's training in the Holy Kaioshin Sphere
Startles Gohan who's training in the Holy Kaioshin Sphere
 I think its clear that Goku's (and by association Chou Gohan and Gotenks) ki (and therefore power) is greater than Broly's. Though Broly's ki is always rising so theoretically he could catch up to them.  Now I think its clear Broly>>>SPC and ssj2 Gohan, but what about Buu saga ssj2's like Goku and Vegeta?  Well I think the biggest hint comes at the end of Bio Broly, when Kaiosama tells Goku (just before Buu saga) and Pikkon that Broly is causing trouble in hell, and to go "deal" with him. Brolly is never heard from again, they obviously succeed. This indicates to me that obviously Buu saga Goku>>>Broly, but did Goku need ssj3? Idk, my estimation would be that Broly vs ssj2 Vegeta and Goku (individually) from the Buu saga would be a good fight. Sure Broly has ever increasing ki and destroys galaxies, but a weakened, one armed 50% ssj2 teen Gohan overpowered SPC's blast which is stated as solar system busting, imagine how powerful Gohan would be after he healed up to full power after that fight? (further lack of training notwithstanding) And ssj2 Buu saga Goku and Vegeta are far far ahead of this, they even make points of saying how weak Cell is, and Vegeta basically mocks Gohan's power, saying to Goku "At least your stronger than your son when he fought Cell." Clearly Buu Saga Goku and Vegeta have hugely surpassed Gohan and Cell, most likely even there base forms could defeat SPC without to much trouble. (Remember in filler Pikkon PWNS SPC, Freeza and King Kold, and ssj Goku is his equal. This is before the beginning of the Buu saga and before ssj2 and ssj3 training for Goku) I think Majin Vegeta should be able to take out Broly, or at least give him a good fight.  "

your right they did pass gohan and cell which is why they would stomp broly which makes broly on ss2 gohans level but he wont beat ss2 gohan more than likely he beats SPC cell in a tough fight but as for gohan he would not get passed him sorry broly is not that strong
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » vegeta gauntlet

@Hellos said:
"

@Alexman113 said:

" @Hellos said:
" He stops at Goku imo, I don't think SSJ Gohan, despite the superior SSJ form is going to be skilled enough to beat him. "
fixed "


If Gohan is more powerful than Vegeta than I'm not seeing how skill's going to help him.  
Vegeta may be the better fighter and more brutal but after a certain point in DBZ it's mostly how much more powerful you are / how long can you keep the opponent busy for me to blast them with spirit bomb that matters.

"


i dont think gohan was stronger just had potential which he unlocked during fight with cell also vegeta only recongnized how powerful goku got he paid very little attention to gohan
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » vegeta gauntlet

@Dream said:
"Stomps the first three. Gohan would pose a threat and has a good chance at taking out Vegita as the Ascended SSJ form he makes use of exhausts a greater amount of ki than the Full-Power SSJ form that Gohan and Goku were able to develop. But it's possible for Gohan's lack of willingness to kill and his inexperience in battle to be exploited by the more experienced and greater tactician, Vegita. If Vegita manages to take out Gohan, then he is definitely gonna be taken out by Goku. Besides the different power outputs of their respective SSJ forms, Goku has as much battle experience as Vegita, is more collected with planning things out compared to the aggressiveness displayed by Vegita and he's willing to kill if necessary. In this battle, Goku could exploit Vegita's aggressiveness and the greater exhaustion of ki from his Ascended SSJ form to his advantage as he is aware of the greater amount of ki exhausted in the Ascended form. "

to me vegeta has better battle experience when it comes to training on earth and not in another realm which is the main reason  goku has better experience and is a greater tactician then goku especially when it came to majin buu goku had no clue what to do  i do agree that he will stop at goku but i still think he will put up a good fight
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » vegeta gauntlet

@godeater said:
" @Dream: yeah hense gohan did take on cell even if he did get his  ass kicked and then go ss2  but cell wasnt an easy oponent  for vegeta  anyway as for picolo he wouldnt give up easily  "

vegeta also took on cell and got his ass kicked except vegeta dealt more damage to cell
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