ktarinze (Level 6)

@ReiKai said:

"And what is your evidence? What have you ever shown that could even remotely prove such a ridiculous statement? "

cell would regenerate after alot of attacks survived a final flash that would have destroyed the planet if it hit dead on vegeta had to aim it at an angle so it main focus was on cell and not on the planet but was stated by trunks and vegeta that that blast would of destroyed the planet i dont see thor killing cell sorry 
so please let me hear your BS now

@ReiKai said:

"Power Cosmic = > Asgardian Magic >>>>>>>>>>> DBU  It's that simple. Celljack either gets obliterated by a Godblast, time/dimension dumped, energy drained, transmuted, or any number of other things. Thor solos this. It's proven. Bill would solo this, as shown and proven. "

your trippin they take this thor cant take cell sorry

yeah cell and bojack win this

@ReiKai said:

"Brolly is non-canon. Moot issue. And Surfer would still beat him easily. "

what usually your on broly dick when did you get off when was this lol

@ReiKai said:

"It's been done. Enough of this. Vegeta lost to Thor. This match is no different. Thor cleans house. "

vegeta lost to thor in your mind

@ReiKai said:

"Chouzu was TK and he was fail. Babidi was magic, and Piccolo resisted him. So really you never had an argument to begin with. Mindfuckery has worked on Cosmic users. That trumps DBZ'ers any day of the week. "

okay so what if he resisted his magic were talking about controlling people that has nothing to do with what were talking about prof x would eventually beat these characters in due time thanks to his mental abilities but he would never control them im sorry

@ReiKai said:

"Magic and again it's meaningless as he still completely lacks any kind of actual mental ability, along with the entire DBZ cast. Just having TP doesn't make them powerful enough to even have a remote chance in mental conflict with a guy who beats down top-tier psychics. "

its called magic telepath if he is in his brain and controlling him with magic its about the same thing yes prof x will is more strong but he could not control vegeta sorry

@Hellos said:

"@hitsusatsu11 said:

" Back on topic, Broly could theoretically win since his ki keeps growing indefinitely, however Vegeta should have a greater ki off the get go.  "

I would put my money on Broly mainly because of that power output he's displayed while not having much trouble at all with SSJ2's. "

yeah he fought one ss2 and he was the weakest by far goku coming in at a late beam struggle is not a fight also i goku had to kill broly in hell cause at the end of bio broly where he got owened by 2 ss children trunks and goten and i dont remeber if they said he had all his power and abilities and if he did he is not on ss2 teen gohans level but if im right they never said if broly unlocked all his abilities or had all of his power but if he did then he is not on ss2 teen gohans level but we have no way of knowing that but broly fans yet to realise that but main point dont put ss2 goku like he was really in this fight he came in at the end of a beam struggle never even got to really fight broly

@hitsusatsu11 said:

" @Hellos: Broly does what in a bubble, create air? Broly survives in space WITHOUT a bubble, as seen when he and his father Paragus were flying around an asteroid belt without any bubble. And in the anime Vegeta has also flown between asteroids on his own.  "

yeah hellos dosent know what he is talking about

@MisterShin said:

"@ReiKai: Errr No, u know nothing fool. it is determined by distance if they are at the other side of the Universe, he can do nothing if his range is only planetary. Thats common sense jheez.
Babadi can use Telepathy without Magic and also projected images in to Earth populations mind and also blow up a persons head from several Km. read the manga and then read it again and one more time for a hat-trick.  

They are aliens who are Born with Mental Abilities and therefore have stronger mind in comparisons to others. ur wrong again jheez.
Do i care about some Mantis, Goku power level is sense from another Universe 'afterlife' and 'Kaioshin holy sphere' which circles the universe and afterlife.
 
I know and aware of prof x but willpower and sheer power can overcome mental attacks. 
Its a shame Magneto can stand up to Prof X.
 
Since you do not read the manga let me show you a little scan.  DB Character DO mental training and can even do battle against each other mentally, this is shown in greater depth in the Anime go to 2:50 in the video. 
 

 

 

 Prof X wins by the way, but i am just enlightening people. "

yes reikai dosent know much about dbz at least and yeah prof x does stomp them also this is kinda a spite thread but he would not be able to control vegeta maybe he can control saiyan saga vegeta but at the end of dbz he would not be able to control him not even in cell saga he would not be able to control vegeta but he could control nappa and turles

@KingOfSnipers said:

"Well, of course Barry wasn't that strong when he was first starting out since he didn't know the limit of his powers. Experience counts for a lot in comics. "

you obviously missed my point im saying i think they went a little bit overboard with his abilities yeah he should of gotten stronger but they did a little bit too much

why use broly he isnt even close to the strongest in dbz use mystic gohan or vegitto hell even fat buu is better then broly in this case

kid goku

@cfatalis said:

" @MisterShin said:

" Zoom is a inconsistency He can do stuff like phase through object, although his power only manipulates time, he is still a human. It should be impossile for human to phase through object even if they can shrew with time.  Dio & Jotaro from Jojo adventures can stop time, i guess they hit harder than superman too. Za Warudo  Also Dante from DMC can time manipulate, superman watchout. "

stopping and manipulating are too very different thing
 
@ktarinze said:

" this does get annoying especially with flash how 1 writer will make him 10 times stronger then he is say he on the same power as god like figures or you need a god like person to beat him it kinda gets annoying to me the JL flash in the cartoon should be around how powerful he is no more no less "

look comic flash can run FTL while carrying all the momentum without any of the drawback(air resistance , friction,etc etc) sure they didn't explain what the fuck it is , except for speed force but i assure you if something that weight 92 g can kill people when moving at the speed of sound........., around 70 kg will HURT alot when going FTL "

i dont think flash was that strong when he was 1st created and then he got made into this very strong comic character even though i didnt read his early comics it is my guess that he wasnt that strong when he 1st started

@ReiKai said:

"No, he wouldn't, because PIS/CIS were involved which kept him from instantly obliterating the Z-fighters because that doesn't make much of a movie. You have no logic nor sense for this nor even a valid argument. Just pointless, fanboy drivel. "

i have no sense i state facts about what happened just because in your fantasy world broly is unstoppable and i prove he is not say its BS all you want i ask you how do i have no logic when i state how he lost and you just say he will win based off what you can claim galaxzy busting but he lost a beam struggle if he had that much power in him and can use it in an instant like you claim he would have never lost so what do you base your claim on and how am i being a fanboy i can give you reasons your being a fanboy saying he is the strongest character in dbz but has lost to plenty of characters who are not even on the level of people in or at the end of the buu saga and what is your logic he can win even though he has never beaten anybody with this amount of power on team 2 never beat ss2 teen gohan because ss2 adult gohan is way weaker then him and majin vegeta is way stronger then ss2 teen gohan please tell me how is your logic better then mine when i give you facts fanboy

@Hellos said:

"@ktarinze said:

"@Hellos said:

"Broly  PIS aside he has a lot more power output and can actaully go around in space galaxy to galaxy seemingly.  So all he has to do is throw a soccar ball sized planet buster and be done with team two, no planet no Vegeta or Gohan. "

just like he did against gohan and goten yeah and we see what the result of that was "

PIS results in stupidity, big deal. He still has a much larger power output along with better durability than team two combined. Even if he fights like a moron he should take them out, although one soccer ball planet buster is all he needs. "

you can call it BS its a fact and if he fights like an idiot in every fiight what makes you think this will be any diffrent he lost to a weakend goku with the combined power level of weak z warriors ss2 teen gohan, majin vegeta, or cell would not lose in that situation

@ReiKai said:

"There were scans of Manga Gohan during Budokai tournament with Lightning and a shot of him from the anime without it. That's all. Daizenshuu 6 explains the movies and  states that artists forgot to add the lightning aura in. It's that simple. And you spam this crap about charge  times when it's utterly irrelevant. Goku needs 10sec for Spirit Bomb. Normal and other ki attacks only take an instant or a few sec to get off. Nothing says Brolly's best will take any longer than that, plus you're forgetting that what he did to the South Galaxy was done in an under-powered form. He still had the control circlet on at the time which diminishes his power.
 
Regardless of what you blabber on about, Brolly busting a galaxy does make him the most powerful DBZ character there is. No one else has any feats that comes close. And it's a feat only he has. You need to stop claiming this bullshit that whatever he does, everyone else can do, because that's not how it works. Majin Vegeta is only as strong as SS2 Goku during Buu saga. That's it. There's nothing more to it and it's that very same level of Goku who was getting overpowered along with SS2 Gohan and SS1 Goten. It's a fact Brolly is more powerful than the three of them put together. Teen Gohan and Majin Vegeta is not really any different from what he was already dealing with, other than the fact PIS are removed which means he beats the ever-living shit out of them with ease. "

if he could launch such a powerful blast in seconds he would also like i said you dont know nothing about dbz if you think he is the strongest character and if he was he would of never lost to a weak goku with weak z warriors combined and if you keep saying its BS then dont argue it i give you facts and you say thats BS but its the facts your also tripping if you think that ss2 teen gohan and majin vegeta are the same thing as that blast struggle adult ss2 gohan is way weaker then his teen self and he still put up a good fight against broly in the begining he lost get over it hes not as strong as you think and that is really being a broly fanboy to say he is the strongest character in dbz

@Hellos said:

"Broly  PIS aside he has a lot more power output and can actaully go around in space galaxy to galaxy seemingly.  So all he has to do is throw a soccar ball sized planet buster and be done with team two, no planet no Vegeta or Gohan. "

just like he did against gohan and goten yeah and we see what the result of that was

@DBZ_universe said:

"

Cell and Broly win!!!

Cell could absorb Broly and make him as "Legendary Super Perfect Cell" and he would just Stomp Gohan and Vegeta....   
even tho that would not happen cuz Broly wouldnt allow it and i don't think Broly would like to team up with Some one so pretty much he would turn against Cell and fight M. Vegeta and Gohan by him self and beat them both at full power LSSJ

"

no way in hell broly beats both of them by himself your 1st idea was good but then you went on the broly power trip he losses in seconds against both of them

@Newdeath:
if the PPG were smart just keep attacking him and dont let up overwhelm him so he dosent get a chance to fire the kamehameha more than likely this is what they will do that is why i give it to the PPG