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Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Dark Schneider Vs Gogeta and Vegetto




 
Again, explain why one gets his arm lobbed off and the other blocks STRONGER attacks with a finger
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Dark Schneider Vs Gogeta and Vegetto

@cfatalis said:

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" @ReiKai said:
"You need to realize this isn't even close to his full power. Darsh wasn't Majin yet and he pretty much stomps all over his buddies. When Darsh fought with Michael they were FTL and smashing up a galaxy in the process. The only DBZ character capable of that was Brolly and he's non-canon. To say that either of those here could do so is absurd because there is nothing to base it on and no evidence. We actually do have evidence of Satan destroying a galaxy and Darsh, even in Majin Form, has not reached his peak. Also I believe he has all but one piece of the Judas Pain.
 
After all, BASTARD!!-verse has universe-busters.
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Broly was not even full power, and kid buu was not full power, Vegetto and gogeta are lightyears above broly. Heck Goku himself was all that was needed to take down Broly according to the movie (Broly second coming, at the end of the film whilst goku is scoffing his face, goku lone is sent to take care of broly, and because he does not die again, we can safely assume that he beat Broly).  But I suppose that the sheild is very impressive. "
this not him at full power either "
I know, which makes this fight all the more interesting. "
mmm how is kid buu not at full power  and and that black thing, can actually destroy the universe in one go "
Kid buu was said to be stronger than ever before, by Kibito kai. Universe busting is impressive but I question how it would touch Vegetto or Gogeta as they can teleport, and move to different dimensions. This seems more like a who can outsmart the other opponent. "
err universe busting means universe go bye, that also means all thing inside it, besides the caster or somebody stronger than the attack "
That wasn't a Universe busting attack either.  How can they destroy the Universe if they were still fighting in it? Saying "Destroyer of the Universe" means nothing.  Cell called himself "The Universe's End" too.  Again, nothing shown.   Vegeto wins.  
 


Mr. Universe buster nearly passing out from a sword slash..../yawn.
 
These Dark Schneider fanboys are really desparate.  The guy has no durability in his normal form.  You guys gotta amp him up to even have a chance and even then Vegeto just instant transmissions to a different dimension to evade anything Schneider got.  Then just comes back and instant transmission - kamehameha in his face.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Dark Schneider Vs Gogeta and Vegetto

@cfatalis said:

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" @Klandicar: so you pick a volume 2 of bastard series? "

That's right.  It just says "Dark Schneider".  He isn't so special in his standard form...just a man who would die if the planet goes.  See guys, when I make a Thanos thread I don't use his feats when he has the infinity gauntlet, I use the standard Thanos.  Then again I doubt you guys even know who Thanos is.  Anyway, Dark Schneider is weaksauce and has human durability.  Plus he would just get speedblitzed by an Instant Transmission assault. "
that weaksauce later on beat a fire demon again with a fire spell, and also he got to hell and beat up satan with his human body  stole satan's body "
Okay, as regular Dark Schneider he dies to an energy blast that vaporizes the planet with him.  As Satan he gets vaporized by a solar system buster.  It is overkill but you Dark Schneider fanboys aren't going to get out of this pickle, that's a scan of him getting his arm chopped off by a human ninja.  Pathetic. "
okay so you basically says satan who busted galaxy will get killed by a solar system busting attack "
Yet he can't tank a sword slash without nearly passing out?  This isn't even a fight, its a murder, and Dark Schneider will be the victim.  This thread says Dark Schneider, but now you want to use Dark Schneider in Satan's body all of a sudden after I linked that scan.  I'll take that as your concession.  
 
Problem is even against Satan it will be Vegeto blasting him then instant transmissioning to clear the blast after Satan explodes.  I've seen the scans and Satan is a little bigger than planet sized, DBZ characters can blow that with ease then warp away.   But make a Satan vs Vegeto thread if you want, since Dark Schneider lost this one the moment I put that scan up.
 
You guys don't realize how fast instant transmission is apparently, how much of a factor it will be against a guy who cant even dodge sword slashes from ninjas...
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Dark Schneider Vs Gogeta and Vegetto

@cfatalis said:
" @Klandicar said:
" @cfatalis said:

" @Klandicar: so you pick a volume 2 of bastard series? "

That's right.  It just says "Dark Schneider".  He isn't so special in his standard form...just a man who would die if the planet goes.  See guys, when I make a Thanos thread I don't use his feats when he has the infinity gauntlet, I use the standard Thanos.  Then again I doubt you guys even know who Thanos is.  Anyway, Dark Schneider is weaksauce and has human durability.  Plus he would just get speedblitzed by an Instant Transmission assault. "
that weaksauce later on beat a fire demon again with a fire spell, and also he got to hell and beat up satan with his human body  stole satan's body "
Okay, as regular Dark Schneider he dies to an energy blast that vaporizes the planet with him.  As Satan he gets vaporized by a solar system buster.  It is overkill but you Dark Schneider fanboys aren't going to get out of this pickle, that's a scan of him getting his arm chopped off by a human ninja.  Pathetic.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Dark Schneider Vs Gogeta and Vegetto

@cfatalis said:

" @Klandicar: so you pick a volume 2 of bastard series? "

That's right.  It just says "Dark Schneider".  He isn't so special in his standard form...just a man who would die if the planet goes.  See guys, when I make a Thanos thread I don't use his feats when he has the infinity gauntlet, I use the standard Thanos.  Then again I doubt you guys even know who Thanos is.  Anyway, Dark Schneider is weaksauce and has human durability.  Plus he would just get speedblitzed by an Instant Transmission assault.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Dark Schneider Vs Gogeta and Vegetto

@cfatalis said:

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@Sonata: 

" Vegetto or Gogeta will just solar system bust or teleport Dark Schneider into the after life.  That pretty much ends the fight. "

remember this, everytime you pick your flaming sword, for this is the evil we must slay "
Dark Schneider getting his arm lobbed off by a ninja.  Breathing heavy and ready to fall...

 
 
vs.
 
Goku blocking multiple slashing attacks with just 1 finger from someone stronger than Gala (trunks SSJ > Gala)


 So if a sword can cut off Dark Schneider's arm, you think Vegeto blowing up the planet or solar system won't put him down? That's funny stuff kids.  Maybe put Dark Schneider against Krillen and it'd be a good fight...then again his arm would get cut off by a destructo disk if a ninja can do it.
 
Ya know, it'd be nice if I could have an intelligent debate on these forums.  Whats the point if I'm doing all the meaningful talking?  Let me know when you guys figure out how to prove a feat, which involves linking them instead of just making up numbers.  Saying DS stomps hardly proves your case when he goes against a planet-solar system busting attack.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Piccolo vs

 0.5 m was assuming the range between iron man and his opponent, 50 cm 
afterward he need to reach some speed of his punch to be worth of a steel ball going 3500 feet per second
if it reached that , the it can be assumed that he need to go faster to generate the force since well his punch can't be heavier than iron ball
prompting his calculation.....
 he waited for the guy to finish his sentence in 1.043 second  
 

I know it was "assuming" the range.  That's the problem, you guys insert your own numbers, particularly a very small distance in order to get a very small time.   You guys also ignore acceleration in order to get a smaller number and as I've said you can't ignore acceleration when you are trying to figure out how long it took something to move, especially if the object accelerated to that speed.  Considering his arm was at rest and was speeded up to 3500 feet per second, you can't ignore acceleration....take a physics class.
 
Even more pathetic is that Iron Man isn't moving his whole body at the 3,500 feet per second.  It is just part of his arm because he charged it up...it is similar to firing a gun and bragging how fast the bullet goes.   Those Dragonball characters on the other hand moved their entire bodies, pulled off spitting, rock paper scissors, dodging, thinking of a new plan, kicking, punching, and landing all in under 1 second.  Iron Man has never been shown to be anywhere near this level.  Show me Iron Man fighting at that speed with his whole body or stick to the made up math and weak feats.
 
BTW when Piccolo busted the moon the blast got there in a few seconds.  Near light or light speed > 3,500 feet per second.  Moon buster > solid steel ball.
 
 
  
When Iron Man tanks an attack that can bust a celestial body let me know.  Until then Piccolo 1 shots this thread.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Piccolo vs

@cfatalis said:

" @Mortein said:

" @Klandicar said:

" @Newdeath


Iron Man has on several occasions delivered several hits in under 0.0003 seconds.
 
 

 
As I said, 0.002 not 0.0003.  More importantly the 0.002 is not referring to delivering attacks but charging a magnetic pulse in his elbow joint.  The delivery of the attack happens after the "Then I nail him...",  no times, just a speed.  Looks like it took him over a second to do one hit, yet the scans I show of Dragonball characters are an entire fight sequence under 1 second....you're outclassed here. Face it, comic characters like Iron Man aren't fast enough to hang with DBZ characters.  Iron Man should stick to fighting street levelers like Wolverine because one moonbuster from Piccolo would end him in an instant.  Only thing you proved is you lie about Iron Man's feats because you know he is slower than even Dragonball characters.  NEXT.  And if you can't even interpret this scan properly then I question your ability to read other ones when you list all those feats.  How you thought those attacks were delivered in 0.0003 seconds is beyond me considering it even describes the sequence step by step for you , i.e. I give him 1 second to finish the sentence THEN I nail him.  Probably just don't got the keen eye like old Klandicar does....don't sweat it kid. "
 

0.002 for charging magnetic pulse into the elbow of arm

1.043 sec   waiting for guy ti finish sentence

0.00047 sec for his fist to get to target if target is 0.5 m from fist

0.00247 sec for whole attack without waiting 1.043 sec. 
 That is if we ignore acceleration and calculate like if his fist reached speed of 1066 m/s instantly. (3500 feet/s)

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in accrodance he can finish one punch in  0.00296 sec=0.000300 sec  newdeaths number, lol "
 
1) I underlined all the numbers you guys just made up (pulled out of your behind I guess?).  
 
2) There is no 0.5 meters anywhere in the scan first of all so your entire calculation is based on nonsense. 
 
3) There is also no 0.00047 seconds because it comes from a nonsense calculation you performed on the 0.5m number that doesnt exist.  
 
4) There is no 0.00247 seconds for the whole attack.  Not sure where the additional 0.00296 seconds came from I guess you guys just vomited that one up too.  Thanks for the laugh though.
 
5) You ignored acceleration which is the major factor in any calculation that is timing how long it took an object to travel.  However, even if you went through a physics class and calculated properly it does not matter since your numbers were made up by yourself. 
 
The offical canon is that the attack had the force equivalent to a steel ball traveling at 3,500 feet per second.  Other than that, the 1.043 second was before the attack was even delivered, therefore, no time exists how long it took it to be delivered.  Sorry kids, they tried to use that feat on Comic Vine against me.  They tried to say Iron Man can attack 3000ish times per second using that fight which is what would be the case if your made up math were true.  Fail.  At least they had to stop linking it once I disproved it but I saved the scan as a souvenir of bad reading and interpretation at work. 
 
Now if you kids can't understand why the 1.043 seconds preceded the actual attack then I suggest you go back to school and learn what the word "Then" means...heh. 
 

 
in accrodance he can finish one punch in
 
0.00296 sec=0.000300 sec
 
newdeaths number, lol 
 

The time it takes for the attack to be delivered is separate than the time it takes to prepare the magnetic pulse to launch it (0.002 seconds).   
 
In addition, 0.00296 is ten times bigger than 0.0003 even if I entertain your made-up numbers...try looking at the extra 0 there champ.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Piccolo vs

@Newdeath


Iron Man has on several occasions delivered several hits in under 0.0003 seconds.
 
 

 

As I said, 0.002 not 0.0003.  More importantly the 0.002 is not referring to delivering attacks but charging a magnetic pulse in his elbow joint.  The delivery of the attack happens after the "Then I nail him...",  no times, just a speed.  Looks like it took him over a second to do one hit, yet the scans I show of Dragonball characters are an entire fight sequence under 1 second....you're outclassed here.
 
Face it, comic characters like Iron Man aren't fast enough to hang with DBZ characters.  Iron Man should stick to fighting street levelers like Wolverine because one moonbuster from Piccolo would end him in an instant.  Only thing you proved is you lie about Iron Man's feats because you know he is slower than even Dragonball characters.  NEXT.
 
And if you can't even interpret this scan properly then I question your ability to read other ones when you list all those feats.  How you thought those attacks were delivered in 0.0003 seconds is beyond me considering it even describes the sequence step by step for you , i.e. I give him 1 second to finish the sentence THEN I nail him.  Probably just don't got the keen eye like old Klandicar does....don't sweat it kid.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Piccolo vs

@Newdeath said:
" @cfatalis said:

" @Newdeath: hmmmmm which version of ironman armor is the strongest if i may ask? "

The most powerful version of the Iron Man armor is the Thorbuster Armor which was designed to to be able to handle Rune King Thor in battle.   ND "


Iron man doesn't have the durability for a moonbuster either...comic characters <<< DBZ characters unless you count cosmics.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Piccolo vs

@Newdeath said:

" @Klandicar said:

" Yeah right guys, Piccolo blew up a moon with a power level of around 1300.  He'll just moon bust all these characters and it'll be a done deal.  DBZ is on a different level than these street levelers with super strength.  Beam cannon fire would also 1 shot them if he wants to cause less collateral damage.  Then there is the speed difference.  Even Roshi and Krillin were able to pull off an entire fight sequence in <1 second.  This is with power levels in the low hundreds.  I have scans if anyone is interested in that, it is an insane speed/reaction feat.  Meaning....DBZ characters can pull off dozens of hits naked to the eye in under a second.  Piccolo can simply pummel em and they would think it is a ghost because they just cant keep up. "

Klandicar I honestly do not understand why you do this. You have very limited knowledge about comic book characters and you still dare to post nonsense like this. This is evidenced because you just called Iron Man, Namor, Storm, Colossus and Green Scar street levelers which is nothing more than bordering insanity.   Having enough power to destroy the Moon is nothing when you are comparing people who have withstood powerful energy projection from the likes of Thor and The Silver Surfer. Of course it is easy to watch Dragon Ball Z and believe they can defeat anyone when you have absolutely no knowledge on other characters however what makes you think this version of Piccolo has enough power to even cause someone like lets say Green Scar flinch? Speed is not a factor when Iron Man is several times faster than Piccolo, you do realize that Iron Man has impressed even The Sentry with his speed? The Sentry is a being who is able to easily catch Sniper bullets in mid air inches away from its intended target with using any effort, Iron Man has on several occasions delivered several hits in under 0.0003 seconds. You are practically the only user who is disagreeing with everyone that Piccolo can actually win.   And again it is quite annoying when a user believes that simply because a character can destroy moons and planets with the power of their energy projection they can vaporize anyone or they will simply blow up the planet they or on and what not. If that was the case then Green Scar and Namor should have easily been defeat long ago by The Silver Surfer, Thor, Doctor Strange etc. You should know that Regular Savage Hulk withstood the equivalent of Solar Flares and Solar Flares have a lot more energy than this version of Piccolo considering that Piccolo here can destroy moons while Solar Flares destroy entire planets. The Silver Surfer could not harm Savage Hulk with a powerful energy blast stated to have enough power to destroy entire stars and more and The Hulk that is being used is Green Scar who is a lot more powerful than Savage Hulk.   I suggest you do more research and then return instead of simply assuming things. Also when you debate do not talk about a single character's feats, compare them to the opponent's feats as well to properly deduce the winner. Again everyone else has agreed that Piccolo will stop at either Namor or Iron Man and most definitely Iron Man who is faster and stronger than Piccolo.    ND "
First of all it is 0.002 seconds in the scan, not 0.0003 seconds, and it isnt referring to how fast the entire attack took.  It's funny that you say I have limited knowledge, when that scan didn't happen like you describe.  He charged a magnetic pulse that took 0.002 seconds, then waited a second before he even delivered the attack.  The time it took for the attack to hit the opponent gave no specific time but gave a speed of impact.  It wasn't several hits either, it was one attack.
 
Anyway, quit making things and learn your comics.  This is why I hang out on Comic Vine, because you Comic fanboys need someone to teach you how to read your own comics...let me know when you misinterpret more scans, I'll come back.
 
Yeah, I still think Piccolo takes this with a couple moonbusters, don't care what everyone else thinks.  Thanks for trying though.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Piccolo vs

Yeah right guys, Piccolo blew up a moon with a power level of around 1300.  He'll just moon bust all these characters and it'll be a done deal.  DBZ is on a different level than these street levelers with super strength.  Beam cannon fire would also 1 shot them if he wants to cause less collateral damage.
 
Then there is the speed difference.  Even Roshi and Krillin were able to pull off an entire fight sequence in <1 second.  This is with power levels in the low hundreds.  I have scans if anyone is interested in that, it is an insane speed/reaction feat.  Meaning....DBZ characters can pull off dozens of hits naked to the eye in under a second.  Piccolo can simply pummel em and they would think it is a ghost because they just cant keep up.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Mihawk (One Piece) vs Kenpachi (Bleach)

@sinister_noob_incarnate said:
" @Tradog said:
" @sinister_noob_incarnate said:
" its the same thing with the superman vs barragan fight.  superman has greater speed, and strength, hes got lasers, and cold breath, and he can fly. but al that dosent mean anything against barragan, its just like that here. "
Thats true but Barragan's 1 ability tops that but kenpachi is not on either of those guys level what I am asking from both of you is how they win like what can kenpachi do? "
well, my argument is that kenpachi has a huge amount of energy, which he uses to reduce significant amounts of damage, above that i made a huge post on how a normal/non magical/non powered sword will do against someone who uses energy with there sword to cut through solid rock even other energized (strengthened) swords. So im saying with one strike, kenpachi takes the win. he would cut through Mihawks sword and him at once.  i agreed with the guy that Mihawk has greater feats, a greater long range cut, and possibly greater speed...kenpachi has shown high tolerance for pain and with his energy he cant be cut too bad by the other guy. basically, kenpachi has energy, if he didnt, he would lose this battle, but thats not the case as Ken wins this with ease. feats mean nothing in this particular concept. "
When characters from different Universes fight you are supposed to equalize them for things like energy.  For example, if Kenpachi fought Superman would you really say Superman can't hurt him just because Kenpachi has energy?  Makes no sense bro.  Just so you know One Piece uses a Haki system and Logias in One Piece can't be cut unless someone has Haki.  So I could just say people like Crocodile, Smoker, Ace, and Kizaru would own Kenpachi because he cant cut them...he has no Haki.  Pretty dumb argument though IMO.
 
Noitara had no trouble dicing up Kenpachi and he was only rank #5 of the Espada.  Mihawk is one of the Shichubukai which is kind of like an Espada equivalent and Mihawk would be higher than #5 if we equalized them since he is going to be Zoro's final opponent in all likelihood.  
 
So just because Bleach uses the reiatsu system and One Piece doesnt should not disqualify Mihawk from being able to cut Kenpachi.  Now compare how hard they have shown to hit using feats, Mihawk's feat of being able to rip through a glacier is stronger than anything Noitara has shown, in fact, even Noitara's casual slashes have torn up Kenpachi.  Yet those slashes didn't look like they were anywhere near what Mihawk has shown in battle.
 
What you are basically doing is using an intangibility argument when there really isnt one.  Heh, why not just argue Mihawk can't see Kenpachi since Kenpachi is a shinigami and humans normally cant see them?  Honestly dude, what is the point of this thread if Mihawk can't cut Kenpachi all because an Ichigo with little skills couldnt because "Kenpachi has energy"?  Makes no sense. 
 
Kenpachi still doesnt automatically lose because he can be cut since he can tank a lot of attacks.  He will lose because Mihawk has better power feats, better swordsmanship, and greater speed.  Sorry, but there is no evidence that he can tank something that splits a glacier in half no matter how much you cling to that energy argument.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Dark Schneider Vs Gogeta and Vegetto

Vegetto or Gogeta will just solar system bust or teleport Dark Schneider into the after life.  That pretty much ends the fight.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Piccolo vs

Piccolo absolutely stomps this gauntlet.  If he can bust a moon he can bust anyone on that list by dropping a nuclear level KI blast on them from the sky.  Another fact is that those characters on that list can't even keep up with piccolo's speed + flight and would get dominated hand to hand by superior martial arts. 
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Mihawk (One Piece) vs Kenpachi (Bleach)

 Mihalk uses a normal metal sword, therefore it can be pierced easily by kenpachi.
 
 
 
 


 Mihawk's sword is not a normal metal sword.  It is a giant black blade adorned with gems and possibly runes.  Anyway, if it was a normal sword would it cut through a glacier like butter from hundreds of feet away?  Think about it...
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Mihawk (One Piece) vs Kenpachi (Bleach)

 I've already shown and proven that Mihawk lacks the ability to even hurt Kenpachi. And, even if you say he could cut Kenpachi, it makes no difference. Kenpachi can easily take every blow Mihawk dishes out without a care because none of them are any real threat to him. His durability and damage soak is insane. Even when impaled through the chest by Tousen, Kenpachi didn't even seem to even notice or care. Even Nnoitra stabbing him in the chest and punching a hole through Kenpachi didn't even remotely slow him down. Any cut Mihawk could even remotely make would be shallow and pointless. Nicks and scratches, nothing more.  
 


 No, you haven't proven that Mihawk can't cut Kenpachi....you'd have to pit them together to do that.  You just keep listing what Kenpachi can do and assuming he can win.  I saw what he can do already, all of it, and I remember an inexperienced Ichigo slice Kenpachi's chest open already so I think a guy who busts glaciers apart with a casual swing (and 100s of feet away) can do it too.  There is obviously more power in his swings than the inexperienced Ichigo who already cut Kenpachi, before the Zankpakto power up I might add.  Is that unreasonable to you?  Anyway, even if it is, you can't prove Mihawk is unable to cut him based on Kenpachi's feats. 
 
Frankly, your argument is weak and is the same as this.  You say Mihawk can't cut Kenpachi because an inexperienced Ichigo couldnt for the first part of the fight?  Okay, an inexperienced Zoro couldn't hit Mihawk so I guess Kenpachi can't hit Mihawk either.
 
 
Seems Kenpachi is more realistic about his own feats than you are.  Kenpachi himself admitted that he would die if he kept fighting Noitara the way he was so Kenpachi has a limit/can die/lose.  Kenpachi also was nearly killed by Ichigo who was not that impressive or fast from what I've seen...simple slicing and dicing while Kenpachi laughs like a fool.  If Mihawk can cut him Kenpachi can be killed, simple as that.  Mihawk might even take the head on the first move....game over.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Mihawk (One Piece) vs Kenpachi (Bleach)

@ReiKai said:

" And obviously you don't get it either. Ichigo is also a freak and as stated he was basically at a level of power surpassing Bankai at the time. It's been argued that Ichigo hasn't ever really used the same level of power since that day since it was the full force of himself, Zangetsu and his Hollow. Also, watch the clips people. They help you understand. Look at what an even lesser experienced Ichigo did when clashing with Urahara. I don't count solid ice being different from solid stone, and they tore a deep crevice in the ground, so deep you couldn't see the bottom. Later Ichigo, like many others, controls the force of their attacks and it's effect on the area around them. After all Shinigami of Lieutenant level and higher have seals placed on them when in the living world because it's so fragile and to keep them from adversely affecting the world around them. This was explained very early on.   I'll make another point. Grimmjow and Nnoitra are near equal in terms of power. Grimmjow is faster while Nnoitra is tougher physically. The 6th and 5th Espada's. Bankai Ichigo was needed to try and stop a Cero from Grimmjow using his Black Getsuga Tenshou, and the only time he ever overcame the blast was when he was Hollowfied. Also note that the Arrancar and Espada are stronger in Hueco Mundo than in the living world, making them and their attacks more powerful. A Cero from either Grimmjow or Nnoitra would be on about the same level. An attack that required Ichigo's Bankai attack to stop, Kenpachi stopped effortlessly with his bare hand while sealed. This I've already shown you in the above clips during his fight with Nnoitra. "

 
Ichigo being stronger without Bankai when he beat Kenpachi is not proven and counter intuitive.  You'll honestly need scans to support that claim but they don't exist.   Kenpachi stopping the cero with his bare hand is impressive and cool looking but really has nothing to do with this fight since Mihawk won't be using cero.  Ceros are not sharp like Mihawks attacks and Mihawk's ranged attacks look like they are of the cutting type.  Heheh,  if you want to just list feats showing Kenpachi's power then consider that Mihawk is said to be equal (or even assumed above) to the level of Shanks who split the sky when his sword clashed with Whitebeard.  I've never seen a Bleach character's attack splitting the heavens itself in half and Mihawk is around that level.  This isn't a matter of reiatsu as all fights with Kenpachi have boiled down to, this is a matter of skill and Mihawk has more.  He uses technique and was able to block outskill Zoro (using 3 swords) with just his little dagger.  He can slice and dice Kenpachi before he gets a chance to enjoy the fight.  He knows swords better than Kenpachi....sorry man.
Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1

Battles » Itachi vs Hiei (Yu yu hakusho)

Itachi said only another Sharingan user can escape his Tsukiyomi, last time I checked Hiei has a Jagan.  Listen guys, Hiei can slice up Itachi but unfortunately for Hiei he will be slicing up a clone while Itachi slaps a genjutsu on him.  Hiei has a lot of painful memories and Itachi will bring them out for 72 hours in his illusionary world, simply crushing Hiei's mind.
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