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Battles » Darkseid VS Dragonball Z Villains

Superman has/had divine protection that kept Darkseid from from killing him via the Omega Beams. The DB crew has no such protection. Also, when Darkseid isn't being ridiculously low-balled, he's far above Superman(Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis).

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Battles » Magneto vs Cell (Post from vine)

I'm guessing this is Mags before the Phoenix screwed his powers up. If so, Cell doesn't stand much of a chance before Erik does something like open up a wormhole in his body.

Post by KingOfSnipers (435 posts) See mini bio Level 11
Post by KingOfSnipers (435 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Freeza, Perfect Cell, Kid Buu vs. Thanos, Mephisto, Darkseid

Are you really using the non-cannon anime as proof?

Team 2 solos so hard it's pitiful. Either the OP has no idea about how powerful the comic team really are or this is a spite thread.

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Battles » Screwattack Goku vs Superman

Yeah, SMBZ is freakin' hilarious. I need to go back and watch it again.

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Battles » ten tails , Madara and tobi vs x men

Magneto sends them to the sun. Or Magik sends them to Limbo to be her playthings when she gets bored.

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Battles » Goku VS

GT isn't canon and Buutenks is a LOT stronger than Kid Buu. Kid Buu was more dangerous because he was more sadistic. Someone needs to read the DB manga again...

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Battles » Thor vs Ichigo

Wolverine and Cap are Marvel's answers to Batman's ridiculous PIS(along with Spider-Man at times). Terrible choices to try and claim that Bitchigo Kuroshitty is anywhere near Thor.

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Battles » Kid Buu vs Hal Jordan

No DB character is "about even in strength" with post-Crisis Superman before the reboot. The best strength feat in the entire manga is Goku kicking Frieza through a couple of islands on Namek.

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Battles » Goku Vs. Wonder Woman

@justanormalguy said:

Goku has a slight advantage with his ki. He can use it to augment his power and physical strength. Wonder Woman is no slouch with physical strength, but Goku could harm her, since his fists have been beating planet level durability toons since Frieza. Though Wonder Woman can deflect his ki, the advantage still lies with his ki, and he is fast enough to get a shot in. It's not like Wonder Woman hasn't ever been hit before. Goku does have the slight edge with ki, but they match in fighting speed and strength.

Are you trying to imply that DB characters have planet-busting physical strength? Because that's just... insane. :/

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Battles » Kid Buu, Super Buu, Fat Buu Vs Superman

@taichokage said:

Both are more powerful than Superman. Or do you think that Despero defeating Superman simultaneously with Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter isn't enough of a testimony to his strength? And I disagree with your last statement. Even if he is stronger which I do agree with, it isn't as great a difference as you say.

It's a high showing, obviously. It's just that he's normally written to be around Supes' equal in regards to strength with his mental powers making him a much bigger threat. Take away his mental powers and extra eye and he's just Mongul with less fighting skills.

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Obito Uchiha » How rank Edo Madara in this universe?

@Destinyheroknight said:

@MisterShin:

- One Piece:
Below Shichibukai (e.g. Boa turns him to stone)

I think Madara have to have lust for her or anyone (which he haven't shown). Also if he know her power, then it would be easy to avoid

Madara will be in the same league as the Yonko or higher

- Bleach:
Probably below Lieutenant (Most Lieutenant should be capable of Sealing him)
Also i think Bleach characters can make souls reach the otherworld by hitting him with the hilt of their sword.

Madara is very powerful, it would be hard for any Vice Captain to hit him with there hilt.

Madara should be in the same league as the Captains or higher

She was able to turn cannonballs to stone with her Slave Arrows, so there's no need for lust.

Post by KingOfSnipers (435 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Kid Buu, Super Buu, Fat Buu Vs Superman

Surfer is stronger than Supes easily, but Despero isn't. And the Surfer/Buu stuff isn't unresolved since Surfer is orders of magnitude stronger than any versions of Buu.

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Battles » AntiMonitor (SCV) Vs Kid Buu, Super Buu, Super Vegeto, Broly

Anti-Monitor didn't get thrown into the Sun by SBP, he was thrown to Ryut and was enclosed in the Black Lantern Corps' Power Battery right after he landed. Also, Anti-Monitor took on all of the Guardians and killed one before the rest of the GL Corps trapped him in the explosion of Warworld and the Yellow Lantern Power Battery.

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Battles » Goku SSJ4 vs The Flash (Wally West)

@Raditz1 said:

Goku would just destroy Earth? The Flash can't survive a spirit bomb.

Destroying Earth would kill Goku, as well. :/

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Battles » Z fighters vs Thanos and Darkseid

@Sooo_Whelmed said:

@KingOfSnipers: Thats before the fight even started in IG 3. Surfer and warlock moved much closer since then as shown in SS 56 which leads directly SS blitz in IG4. They weren't a light year away.

Mind posting the scan if you can find it?

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Battles » Z fighters vs Thanos and Darkseid

Adam Warlock clearly states in The Infinity Gauntlet #3 that he and Surfer were a light-year away from Thanos's position. Just felt that needed to be cleared up.

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Battles » Goku SSJ4 vs The Flash (Wally West)

@Sooo_Whelmed said:

@KingOfSnipers:

1. and?

2. actually no, scans were posted of pre crisis and dark flash walter west from an alternate universe who was way more powerful than normal flash. I asked you before he countered my arguments..and you didn't state how...and you're still not stating how..so i'm going to take that as..he didnt..and you're babbling. Thanks for clearing that up. Goku wins.

1. And it's funny that you whine about flagging people when you take part in much of the same behavior you try to condemn. I don't really care, just found it funny.

2. I skipped over the Barry scan and didn't even read the page with the Walter West scan, so meh. Getting that out of the way, you never did counter his argument of Flash blitzing him before he could move. You just droned on about Goku blasting Baby into the Sun and used the "halfway across the planet" stuff we're arguing about in the other thread. Until Goku's been shown to react as fast as these scans show Wally does...

... he's not doing anything before Wally does in-fact speedblitz and kill him.

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Battles » Goku Vs. Wonder Woman

@yeahh_u_whelmed said:

@KingOfSnipers:

The fact that you didnt post the scan means you know of it...so im not going to waste my time

goku traveled across the planet before frieza could put his hand down...the end

2. LOL...wow...sir their were city island and continent busters being thrown out in that fight..goku would have been dead and that ship destroyed. Freiza was fighting piccolo, vegeta, and gohan all over the place.i could go and on..just lolol no....i seriously cant even stop laughing enough to give a decent reply to that utter non sense. goku flew across the planet be mad

3. Frieza had light based attacks

Oh please...

There's all three pages out of that sequence in order and Frieza's position changes from when we last saw him to when Goku gets there

2. Only one ki blast actually hit the planet and that was Gohan's after he got pissed at Frieza for impaling Krillin after he transformed. And you really need to pay attention because I never said that they didn't move from where they summoned Porunga and first encountered Frieza, only they didn't move "half a planet away" like back cover bit you're championing says. If they were truly "half a planet away", then they'd have done a lot more traveling during the fights before Goku shows up then what was shown(which was almost none). Hell, Goku's comment after getting out from the healing chamber contradicts it, to boot:

3. No, he didn't. The others saying that they only saw a light doesn't = light-based attacks. Frieza used ki and only ki. :/

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Cell » Cell solar system busting possible?

@sceonn said:

I think it's possible. As long as they can initiate a chain reaction within the star by destabilise it's core it'll blow itself up destroying all orbiting celestial bodies which shouldn't be impossible for Super Perfect Cell.

That would make whoever did it a star-buster at max, not a solar system-buster.

@CoolnTwisted2k20 said:

@KingOfSnipers said:

I don't remember anything stating how big Namek was compared to Earth.

Doesn't really help the argument at all, honestly.

Fallacious character boast.

Why is Namek even brought up in this argument at all? Piccolo stated that Frieza could destroy the planet anytime he wanted to. Size has never been an issue when it comes to blowing up a planet. Is that honestly the defense used to push back argue against it? If the diameter of a blast at first glance was the argument against planetbusting in Z Goku would've died on Namek when he fought Frieza.

Dude, you were the one who brought up Namek, not me. :/

Size matters when your blast hardly makes a dent on it. The Sun, Jupiter, and Saturn are the largest celestial bodies in our solar system and it would take numerous Earths to even equal their sizes and mass(hell, the Big Red Spot on Jupiter is big enough that it'd take 2 or 3 Earths to equal it's diameter).

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