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Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » The Tournament for the Cold!!!

Where is Cirno? She can freeze things to negative KELVIN. 
 
Or where is Master Therion? His Deus Machina freezes an area to 0K. And by area, I mean a solar system.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » who can beat Kami Tenchi?

@peruano99A: Oh, ffs... 
 
Tenchi Masaki is the AVATAR of Kami Tenchi. An avatar is an object or entity used to represent oneself without actually being there. If you drew yourself on a piece of paper and said 'This is me,' that is your AVATAR. It is not actually you, but a way to represent yourself. Do you understand this? An avatar is both you, while not being you! Kami Tenchi and Tenchi Masaki are two different entities, but TM was created so KM can have an avatar. 
 
@MohsinMan99 said:
@peruano99A:
I don't think people are really interested in philosophical stuff like omnipotency, multiversal, 10000000 times light speed and all...Basically,,a vast majority of people are interested in action, heroes who keep dying from enemies until they finally power up with a golden aura and play around with the enemy, exaggerated hand to hand fights, expanding muscles, huge and long battles, villains spouting they're the most powerful and other nonsense and...well that's just the starters.

On a poll, it was asked which character did the Japanese think was the most powerful and from the above details, I'd let you guess who it was...Omnipotency can go to hell, Goku transcends everything!!! (well, that's what you'd hear from most)
People like that are why shows like Naruto are popular and why the Dark Age of Comics lasted more than a year.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Mugino (To Aru) vs Storm (X-Men)

star, you realize that the power translates to 'nuking small areas?'
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Master Therion w/ Liber Legis vs the Chousin

@hitsusatsu11: >implying Tenchi Muyo is anything better than average
>implying Demonbane is not the most awesome Mecha VN ever
>implying quality even matters
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » DBZ villains vs Thor

Nice cherry picking you got there. Also, nice outliers.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Alucard (Hellsing) vs The HST

@Haofan123: iirc, Logia intang has limits. If you are presented sufficient attacking force or are hit by a person with enough Haki control, intang is lost. Some Logias may lose to Alucard's guns while others can be brought down by his familiars which are soulfucking.

Aizen, FGT Ichigo are about the only ones.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Alucard (Hellsing) vs The HST

In that case, it is ultimately OP that ends him since even Bleach lacks sufficient dodging feats or durability feats to withstand hillbusters and by Kishi's own admission, Guns would wreck the Narutoverse.

And OP would be down to low numbers.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » DBZ villains vs Thor

@MisterShin: Outliers, outliers, everywhere.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Alucard (Hellsing) vs The HST

Is this Schrodinger Alucard?
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » DBZ villains vs Thor

Regarding the freiza TK explosion, you people are aware it was merely him using his TK to apply massive amounts of crushing pressure? When pressure is suddenly released, the compressed mass shoots outward which can simulate an explosion. As such, all that would be needed to resist it, is not TK immunity, but a high resistance to pressure.

In addition, most strength or durability feats in DBZ are attributed to Ki enhancement. inb4lolanimenotcanon, but when Goku and Gohan left the Time Chamber, Krillin threw a rock at a sleeping SS Goku, causing him noticable pain. If memory serves, there are other instances of such attacks doing noticable harm to the Z fighters. They are able to dish out as much damage with their punches and tank as much because they focus their Ki into an area.

So if force of attack > Ki defense, then the attack will do noticable harm. If Force < Ki defense, defense will falter and leave damage, but nothing major. If Force <<<<<<<<<<< Ki Defense, the force not only pierces through, but all remaining force utterly breaks them.

Classic Thor is capable of busting planets through strength if memory serves, meaning that his raw physical strength can surpass everyone in DBZ(Who at best, tank punches of 50 tonnes)
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Master Therion w/ Liber Legis vs the Chousin

I understand that it is against the rules to pit god like beings against each other, but this will make an interesting battle.

Scenarios A- Novel Liber Legis, a massively multiversal Deus Machina. Emphasis on MASSIVE. The being is so big that bursts universes it stands in and destroys more by brushing against them. It defies logic in any sense to the point it can exist while it has been completely and utterly erased from existence. How? lolLovecraft logic. Aside from it's finisher(name escapes me), it has massively powerful time manipulation that works in many points of time. This is used to rapidly repair damage done to it.

Scenario B- VN Liber Legis. Not as large, but just as powerful. LL now has a special sword called the Shining Trapezohedron, capable of sealing away powerful Gods, not limited to the Great Old Ones. This even includes Azathoth. Roughly the size of a large star. Aside from the size, it's powers are the same as the Novel.


Scenario A/B 1: Master Therion is facing them one at a time
2: All Chousin at once.

Rules: No BFR
No time travelling
In character
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Who can tank 10 of these attacks?

Master Therion, Nyarlothotep, as well as a few other Deus Machina from Demonbane.

Ishizue Kanata from DDD can probably tank most of everything.

Demons from Rance are interesting. They can tank about half of everything on this list, but stuff such as the Saints and Fiamma will kill them easily.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Demonbane » The Power of the Demonbane

Again, handbooks. Disregard those.

Because Azathoth creating everything that can exist, has existed, will exist, will not exist, etc. totally isn't creating everything. just because a word was not used, doesn't make it so. And I never said the horror genre. Lovecraft spawned the 'Lovecration Horror' subgenre, which is still greater than changing an age of comic books, which can be done by 'what is popular now.'

In order to timewarp War God Demonbane and end the fight, it needed to show several things: 1, it needed to surpass time warping that was greater than that of Great Old Ones, such as Cthulhu who can affect every multiverse. 2, it needed to do it greater than War God Demonbane. And 3, it needed to do it in every single universe that War God Demonbane had touched. The Tick Tock Man did that efforlessly and killed War God Demonbane's pilot as a child. 

That... isn't what happened in the scene dude. Demonbane summoned anything that was 'Demonbane,' which shows that it is more of a conceptual entity. Amongst these are 'there was Demonbane that had become God.' And the thing about Japan is... calling something God is kind of meh because of Shintoism and Buddhism. As such, when you refer to something as being 'God' they usually mention it in the Christianity sense... that being the creator of everything. In addition, because of Demonbane being such a conceptual entity, You can apply the 'There was Demonbane ______' idea to anything... yes, you can even have 'There was Demonbane that had defeated The-One-Above-All.'

Also, it didn't just summon the War God Demonbanes. Like I said, it summoned every 'Demonbane' everywhere. In addition, EGD is only nigh-omnipotent since that title belongs to Azathoth, the Nuclear Chaos. Yet it still manages to Time Hack everything everywhere at the same time, as well as pull shit out of places that don't exist.

Full Power War God Demonbane does not exist, much like Fullpowered Galactus. And seriously? WGD is superior or at least equal to Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet, which is superior to all the Abstract Entities, such as Abraxas. In fact, let's look at Abraxas' abilities.

Super strength, super speed, massive cosmic energy manipulation, reality warping, enabling him to traverse and manipulate dimensions at will, telekinesismatter manipulationtime manipulation, can manipulate the fabric of reality to accomplish his ends, teleportation, and several others
 
War God Demonbane is already super strong and fast and massive quantom/causality manipulation which is just a fancy word Reality Warping. Being a machine that is comparable in power to Nyarlothotep's personal mecha, the Clockwork Phantom, it can do the cosmic energy shit to. It breaks entire universes by touching them, has the telekinesis to fight against Master Therion(a massively multiversal being). Lemuria Impact is part of it's standard attack set and it compresses an infinite amount of energy into a finite space. Reality Warping is easy for it and it teleports as well.

War God Demonbane isn't even the second strongest Demonbane either. Demon Slaying Grand Saint takes that since it can actually resist Nyarlothotep and fought on equal footing with Master Therion's Liber Legis while it had a Shining Trapezohedron. And since Elder God Demonbane is the strongest Deus Machina we have seen, beating Nyarlothotep's Time Hax, it can actually recreate a universe however it wants. Yes, it can remove concepts with a thought. And a Lemuria Impact destroys not only the target, but god knows how many other universes. And then it fixes them all without the target... unless it is Nyarlothotep who they are trolling by giving infinite lives.

No, there is currently nothing stronger than Elder God Demonbane in the Demonbane series of Deus Machina. Azathoth may be stronger, but EGD is God Tier... unless you count it's little power up which just makes it infinitely stronger... so yeah, it's power is infinity times infinity.

So you just gave me a link that basically says 'Omniverse is disregarded from Marvel's definition.' Thanks for proving my argument.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Demonbane » The Power of the Demonbane

@Danilo018: Again, handbooks. That alone is not sufficient evidence since other handbooks can go against it... most notably, the Naruto Handbooks. If we agreed with Naruto Handbooks, than Haku is Light speed and Sasuke can tag him. So that must mean that Sasuke at early story was FTL! 

In addition, control over a single collection of multiverses =/= omniversal power. LT just showed he can affect a grand total of two megaverses. In addition, if you go from a legal standpoint... Nothing can be part of your 'omniverse' if an author of another series doesn't want it to be part of. All those franchises you mentioned earlier all have had comics made by one of the Big Four(Marvel, DC, Image and Darkhorse), which at one point themselves, had a comic with Marvel.

Plus, even if we took that rule into account, Lovecraft is still the greater omniverse since an entire genre of horror, as well as a real life cult has been made because of him. Yes, Marvel has shifted the 'Age' of Comic Books a few times, but creating an entire genre of story telling > changing an age of a medium.

@MohsinMan99: >forgetting that Nyarlothotep timewarped every single multiverse at once
>forgetting that EGD is far superior to Nyarlothotep
>Forgetting that EGD did summon a Demonbane from every single universe at the same time, whether or not it existed then, soon, before, never has, or never will
>Forgetting that since this takes place in a Lovecraft-esque story, Azathoth created all existence and Yog-Sothoth is existence
>forgetting that EGD is already effectively omnipotent

And, were you implying that TOAA has an effect on our world?
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Weakest Character who can defeat Son Bra

@Kelleth: >taking fanfics into account with a series with an established canon

The hell is this?
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Demonbane » The Power of the Demonbane

@cfatalis: They still need to overcome Azathoth, which is a huge step up from the Crawling Chaos.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Selim Bradley vs Claire Stanfield

Small point of correction in the last paragraph. In the way you are describing, only one of Ladd's henchmen were ground up. The other was part of the Laforet faction. But if memory serves, 42 people were killed on the Night of The Flying Pussy Foot.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Selim Bradley vs Claire Stanfield

@Haofan123: By your own admission it is because he toys with them. Claire blitzed the guy and beat him shitless... and the demon is more immortal than any of the hommunculi. Oh, shadows... big deal. Burden of Proof falls on you to show that his shadows can catch him, so prove they move at Super-Sonic. And since you like to make stupid scenarios, I'll make one. Claire locks Selim in a room devoid of light and beats him shitless, since Selim's power requires the presence of light.
Post by KeitaKuhn (658 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Selim Bradley vs Claire Stanfield

@Haofan123: I did. I was saying that your example was idiotic. And again, Claire moves faster that the speed of a thought.
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