@CerusSerenade: You reasoning are all kinds of wonky O.O first off creating the universe does not make him universal, destroying the universe would. Secondly you are really trying to convince us that Jude has universal punches, Alvin has a universal gun, Leila has a universal staff, Rowan has universal spells and Elize has universal Teepo? Err yeah.. I hope you are trolling..hard because that is most certainly not the case. There was a reason they did not just fodderise Gaiu's army when alvin first betrayed them, they had to run for a reason. Your arguments leave too many plot holes that make no sense from a narrative or battle perspective. Either you are confused on the power of these characters or you really like Xillia 2. Either way this debate is seemingly endless.
@Kurohige: I would just give it up, you already debunked every point this guy has made and he still ignores your points and continues on rambling. Honestly he is the only person on any forum I have ever been to that thinks Ledger is universal let alone the entire cast. But he seems like the kind who will never admit when he is wrong. I think at this point you gotta agree to disagree and just avoid future debates since it wont change. He is fully fixated on the notion they are universal and everyone else knows they aren't. Neither side will budge and he wont acknowledge anything that doesn't side with him. as of now your arguments having been going in circles. Just my advice, if you want to continue go ahead I just don't see a point.