Justice (Level 11)

I think the samurai are being underestimated here; these guys cuts mechs like butter as well as cut and deflect giant bullets fired by said mechs. With only 10 lives they can win scenario 2 and with standard lives, with some difficulty, they win scenario 1.

Kyuzo is faster and at dawn he has a chance.

I will make a more detailed argument later but Samurai should win.

@SpeedForceSpider: @Phoenix_Wright: @5th: @Kurohige: Well while I think Phoenix made a great argument and all that is plausible, in the end Funny V. takes out DBZ and the Gold Saints, however, against the universals, he simply lacks the power needed to put any of them down, in order to erase them he needs to actually go and grab an alternate universe version of the Saints, unless in one of his INFINITE universes he can manage to find a relatively human version of each God, it wont work, because the alternate people are normally just as strong as the one in the current universe, Valentine would not have anywhere close to the speed nor power to grab them and then bring them back, he would have to do something dumb like kindly ask them and that would not work. as for Love Train, as someone already stated: The best possible option becomes reality.

A cut to the foot becomes a cut to the heart.

If you hit Valentine it instead hits someone else

and so on.. Basically, The saints will end up killing themselves due to Love Train. Also getting the saints wont be hard since your alternate self doesn't take the same route in life that you do.

So he could pull out hobo versions of all the saints

and they'd still collide and die, such is the power of D4C

Funny V. is broken, he could take on the entire HST, DBZ, and Gold saints (Separately of course), however the only characters from Jojo capable of stomping the whole Saint Seiya vese including the gods would be Gold Experience Requiem since he can exist outside space and time and has unlimited range and can negate anything to 0, Notorious B.I.G. because he has infinite speed, is immortal, and can absorb matter and take it over, and then Stairway to Heaven because he has infinite speed and can restart the universe and remake it to his liking in an instant. However Funny Valentine can take out the Gold Saints as well as DBZ, the universals is where he loses.

A better fight would be Funny Valentine vs the HST then he would stomp likely but at least then it wont be some awkward standstill like this. Don't get me wrong, this guy is incredibly broken, but even in his own series there were far worse. Nice concept for the battle but unless speed and strength is equal I don't see him winning, maybe not losing, but most defiantly not winning.

Parts of my argument may be outdated since I have long since finished SBR, but I'm pretty sure he takes the gold Saints as well as this battle at least.

@Destinyheroknight: By similar I meant that feat of dodging the fake luffy's bullet at point blank. But yes luffy is well above sonic reaction before new World, my bad for the wording.

Did I mention kenshiro can read when the opponent will attack as sort of a precog as well as the consequence of any action he will use? At one point when he was fighting this guy in the sky he aura was was seen taking up a large section of that area

@othus12: Lol yes he can. He doesn't need a feat that is better than his quake when we know he did almost the same amount of damage to a city before his big power ups, lol as you saw Musous Tensei doesn't take any time to activate, hell the opponent doesn't even know until heir attack goes through them, Kenshiro has hyper sonic speed and even faster punching and reaction time. I hope you are not trying to argue that Whitebeard has hyper sonic speed... I don't know what you mean by keep up, Kizarau stopped and then tagged him, I believe Kizaru was the only one of the admirals who was unhurt save for Marco's kick which did nothing. Kenshiro fought a giant devil the same size of John giant and it has super speed as well as a deadly martial art and yet Kenshiro takes him out in one hit.

, unless by one hit you mean strength wise then Kenshiro has many feats like that too, hell, he killed one of the main antagonist, Shin, with one move lol. By ranged atacks taking awhile you mean as long as extending your arms? Whitebeard likes to hold and charge before releasing with that stance of his Kenshiro doesn't do that, you have soon the scans of how fast he is, I mean Raoh before the series could already punch and level a skyscraper, Kenshiro is stronger that Raoh at the end of series one. A simple punch could also do sever damage to Whitebeard, Imean he is able to be hurt by swords and such. The moment Whitebeard moves Kenshiro would have been out of their, Musous Tensei to simply gain some ground and then natural speed to finish him off. Another feat is of him feflecting a dart shooter aimed at someone a few feet behind him before the guy even noticed.

Kenshiro as a child already had above sonic reactions, similar to Luffy when he fisrt entered New World

Also, Kenshiro, while using PASSIVE aura and badly injured, pushed up an entire waterfall, using deadily ki and fully healed that will do some damage with whitebeard:

The only reason this fight is not over near instantly is because Whitebeard is 100 feet away, he wont get past musous tensei nor Kesnhiro's far superior speed and attacks. Kenshiro's attacks are enough to hurt and kill Whitebeard, that's a fact. Kenshiro has too much in his arsenal. Whitebeard loses from Musou Tensei or a punch in his direction of long range attacks or flying around with his shield. Not to mention he will be paying attentions to Ace too.

Define extreme. Like the sun for heat, or freezing level for cold, ect, because Goku has been able to stand up to some pretty harsh elements like stated above.

@othus12: I am no liar, however the burden of proof lies with the one who made the accusation, no? Well here is his Musou Tensei, a move he can activate the instant he needs to. While fighting Kaioh, Kaioh unleashes an energy field/aura that destroys anything it touches (Well, think of it as those energy barriers DBZ characters use.) Kenshiro uses Musou Tensei and becomes intangible and phases right through it an even fights in it, the only way to counter Musou Tensei is wilth Musou Tensei, which Whitebeard does not have.

And here is Kenshiro using it against Raoh to phase though a aura wave attack and a punch from him:

He can also use it while knocked out and went through a energy blast

And he does have ranged attacks, kamehameha, anyone? lol

As for my hyper sonic claim, we have Eughar, who was able to snap a whip at speeds fast enough to rip people apart, yet Kenshiro was able to catch the whips and tie them together and fling them back at the users face, he did this so fast no one noticed till the whip hit the guy's face. A whip's tip travels over 1,400 feet per second when the whip is cracked -- much faster than the speed of sound, which is about 1,230 feet per second. (744 meters per second) Thus, the crack of a whip is actually a small sonic boom.

Thus making Kenshiro at least mach 8 meaning he is hypersonic.

NOTE: A whip used by a regular human moves at supersonic speed, this guy is way above the likes of a normal human. (the speed should have been around Mach 6 - 8 as calced on the OBD's Metadome.)

Kenshiro also blitzed a guy capable of attacks someone from all directions and attacks all 1,109 pressure points at once, yet Kenshiro blitzed him from several feat away without him noticing:

As for strength Kenshiro also rivals if not surpasses whitebeard. He is Kenshiro punching Falco hard enough to cause a good chunk of landscape behind him to collapse and fissure as well as the sky to slip apart:

As for durability, Kenshiro fought people stronger than when he split the sky, like Kaioh for example, Kenshiro's strongest punch didn't even make him flinch and kenshiro himself admitted her was stronger, yet at the end kenshiro stomped the guy.

Dude, the Asura arc had crazy hax, Musous Tensei destroys matter by simply walking through it. Also, Kenshiro crated after-images BY WALKING at one point.

As for city busting, I don't mean kenshiro can punch the ground and the city crumbles, however, in his fight with Raoh the whole city was tearing apart, also here is proof of shields and flying, watch the first 3 minutes and you will see:

Keep in mind that was early in the series, hell before even that Raoh was strong enough to punch someone in half so hard a giant building a ways behind him split in two from the sheer force of his punch

So in short it is not BS, I have many more scans but I don't think they are needed, Musou Tensei is hax enough to end him, he has nothing to get past it, plus Kenshiro is a hundred feet away? lol hives him plenty of time to use it ans spam far range (Which also make people explode.) Kenshiro takes this.

Lol Kenshiro solos. Musou tensei and near lightning speed, or at least massively hyper sonic. Ki projectiles and shield that protected him from Raoh's attacks that were capable of destroying a entire city. Kenshiro could easily moves fast enough the moment of the fight starts so Whitebeard wont see him and one hit will be the end of him. Or become invincible with musou tensei as stated above.

@CerberusPrime3k: I was going to post that XD the thing is though, King Crimson is already activated before the fight, that means Diavolo will automatically be able to see any danger 10 seconds before it happens, in that time all he needs to do is activate the Time Skip and Wally literally wont see him coming. Without precog I think Wally would kill him before he even summons his Stand however being able to see what will happen a whole 10 seconds before Wally even knows what he will do is a huge advantage given his ability. Plus the ability takes no time to activate, and Wally wont see the Stand either so it could arguable block for him even if he attacks as it comes out right in front of him.

How much faster than light would you need to be for that feat, because Diavolo from the stats above would have to be about 8x light speed, but a pico second is only slightly longer than a nano second. I don't know the math but in natural speed Wally is faster than all Jojo characters except Stairway to Heaven (Who has infinite speed) and Gold Experience Requiem (Who is instant and can exist outside of space and time) if not for hax abilities I'm convinced Diavolo would be toast.

Crazy Diamond's fist clashes with Ichigo's sword, Ichigo's sword gets reverted back into reishi, Ichigo turns into a normal human, Josuke pummels him, fight over.

Diavolo, he can skip time by 10 seconds, meaning anything that happens in those 10 seconds to him with be nulified, on top of that, because he is a stand user Wally wont even see his Stand or be able to defend against it. He can also see 10 seconds into the future so he wont get blitzed as he can just time skip where no one other than him will be able to move and then use King Crimson to knock his head off.

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Interesting match but Danzo kinda stomps. Unless Kishimoto shows Tsunade do something really impressive I don't see her being able to do much to Danzo, the guy was not weak at all, I mean he almost beat Sasuke and he was not able to use Shisui's sharingan. Personally I think Danzo vs Itachi or Gaara would be a lot better. Nice to see a somewhat good battle. Danzo vs Orochimaru would be pretty interesting too :)

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Luffy, he has already taken on people with flames and attacks that produce heat that is seemingly on par or better than Natsu (Not usable here, but in one of the movies Luffy, pre-gears, used his gum gum bazooka and overpowered a guy who heated his body up to like 100,000 degrees or something crazy like that, despite all that Luffy is faster, immune to all his physical attacks, and much faster, Luffy would most likely one shot Natsu, pre-time skip.

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