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Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@Jinbeifan1 said:  

Flagged. And you sound like you watch the secret life of the american teenager. 

Freiza's look attack isnt strength obviously


Did i say its strength? Or did i say he blew up a mountain with a look?  Didn't he hit Goku in the face with this attack ? Wasn't goku completely fine? Yup. Like i said, i forgot i have things to you as if you were a child. God knows act like one.
 

  for the transmutating molecules thing, all Thor would have to do is grab him once and its over, sure goku could avoid him for awhile, but thor could just do a large thunder clap, create a gigantic storm, send lighting all over the area etc. goku cant avoid him forever, 

Why because thats how steve died? LOL goku is way too fast for Thor. Thors going to get his head blown off before he can even react. Thors fighting speed is nothing compared to Goku's. You'l disagree of course, name call like a pathetic, b utthurt child you are. But you wont post superior feats. Thunderclap? Lightning? lol Gokus faster than sound and lighting but sure whatever.   
 

 and if he does an instant transmission kamehameha he wont be able to kill thor with it, he'll also be out of a lot of ki and thor would just grab him and vaporize him. 


lol he'll take thors head off with it. Goku is a multi planet buster. Not trying his super saiyan form can destroy 20 planets. Show me one scan of Thor tanking anywhere near that amount of energy output. lol goku fully charged used a full powered kamehameha against cell, and still had enough energy to fight off cell for a bit. Just throwing that out there. Doesn't matter, because Goku will kill Thor with the first shot.  
 
you wanted a better arguement, there it is. oh and if thor used the magic to build up his strength then why not do it the whole time? Goku wouldnt be able to tank that. 
 
It's not a better argument. Just a different from the same regurgitated stuff everyone else has been saying. Your argument consisted off thor will hit goku because you say so. And thor wont die from a multi planet busting attack, because you say so. Has thor used magic to build his strength before? No then he wont here. 
  

One last thing, Thor can also absorb energy with his hammer, so he can theoretically absorb all of Gokus ki and leave him useless     


And i already posted scans in which Thor attempted to absorb an energy blast and was too late, got hit a little, and almost died. Showing clearly he needs to know where the attack is coming from and needs to be fast enough to react to it. Instant Kamehameha. And then there's the fact that they can determine how much energy they put out at a given time, which helps them against energy absorbers. As seen when Piccolo was attacked by Dr. Gero.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@Jinbeifan1:  

 how are you gonna post a pic of cap hitting thor, trying to say that OF doesnt vaporize adamantium EVEN THOUGH IN THE EXACT NEXT SCAN HES SHOWN BLOWING AWAY CAP AND TAKING OUT A LARGE CHUNK OF HIS ADAMANTIUM SHIELD?? Need proof? ok then

How about because i never said that and you made it up because you're an idiot? If half of you idiots payed attention to whats being said to you you would have seen me type that thor destroyed adamantium.  The point of me posting the scans of Thor getting his face beat in by captain america was to counter his adamantium melting blasts.  Captain america dodged his Odin force blasts  which i showed. Followed up by Steve beating Thor's head in with his shield. Followed up by goku dodging transmutation beams. I'm sorry i didn't dumb it down for you. I forgot which website i was posting on, where everything needs to be explained in a way a small child could understand.  If Goku can dodge transmutation beams from buu, and Frieza's eye lasers he can dodge adamantium melting attacks that Captain america managed to evade

see how his shield has a giant piece missing? oh and how about how when he used his strength alone he made a large dent in the shield?

Thor didnt dent Caps shield with strength. he did it with channeling magic through his hammer. He hit it again to fix the shield. 
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

So anyone who doesnt think Thor is the size of planet aka credible people (anyone who isnt falcon) have anything to say? No, oh okay Goku wins. Boy i tell yah, some people just cant take a hint.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@Jinbeifan1 said:

Well obviously thor with OF wins this, the guy is sky father level 

 

the OF vaporizes even adamantium

 
Only when he can catch it. 
Only when he can catch it. 
 
 
Transmutes molecules 
Transmutes molecules 
 

 Thor also posssesses vastly higher physical strength than goku, being able to bust a mountain with a shockwave created by him and BRB punching once.

 
 
frieza could do it with a look. 
frieza could do it with a look. 
Goku and Vegeta destroying many mountains with the shock waves of their blows.
Goku and Vegeta destroying many mountains with the shock waves of their blows.
 

Looks like it doesn't matter what you have to say.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@valfranx: What about the inconsistencies in the DBU?

They are far worse than the ones in the comics.

Of course you think dbu has more inconsistencies than the hundreds of thousands of comic book characters that has existed for almost a century. So smart.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@jazmac said: 

Ok I'm probably missing something here and it may be a stupid question but hasn't Thor used the Odin Force before retcons? or is Odin Force Thor some sort of title that I'm not aware of that specifically connects to only the most recent version of Thor? as I said before my Thor knowledge is severely lacking so I might be missing some key bits of information.

No. Thor gained the Odin force after odin died. Thus he became odin force thor. And he has since lost the odin force. 
  

The scan is in Japanese and that summary doesn't state he travels there in 1 second, but if you can find the English equivalent or something else that says he does it in 1 second that be great. 


 How about you just use your eyes.  Freiza was standing over vegeta ready to kill him. Goku senses where they were, and speeds there before frieza could throw another punch.
 

Where did I mention something from the anime that isn't even canon except ofc for the parts where I state it isn't canon and can't be used in regards to anyone who MIGHT use it as a valid argument when talking about IT whether it be in past posts or future posts. 


The biggest thing I think that's ever lifted in DBZ is that giant chunk of ground that frieza lifts with his mind or possibly kid buu with that pillar




DBZ are pretty inconsistent with them taking ages to get to fight locations or travelling from place to place when they're trying to get there as quickly as possible

Like i said. It's quite obvious your basing all your knowledge off the anime. 
 

I'm saying that Goku himself doesn't have any speed feats (unless you can prove that namek thing) as he never shows any speed feats before he learns IT and uses IT there after to get around long distances which I've already said can't be used properly in combat except to avoid a few attacks, my point being that he doesn't fight at FTL speeds he can only travel to certain locations he can either see or visualise and it takes him quite a few seconds to do this and he has to have complete concentration to do it. 

Saying Goku doesn't have speed feats is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. I already proved it. How about you use common sense. Goku has moved so fast he was invisible, out ran an attack that surrounded his body and would explode on impact when hitting the ground. Moved so fast he has left after images. Dodged attacks that krillin (someone who has had an entire fight within half of a second) and piccolo (someone who has moved so fast he appeared invisible to a man who moves faster than lightning) couldn't react to. What are thors speed feats? Oh thats right you didn't provide any. Instead you came in attacking dbu speed feats before you even heard them. Goku has already used IT to speed blitz multiple times against cell and buu. So why even bother with this nonsense? Not that it matters because hes faster than thor without Instant Transmission.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@jazmac said:

@Job said:

@jazmac: I dont know why i do this to myself. Thor can not lift misgard serpent. He is no longer at the same strength level. I didnt mean he had a power level. This should have been obvious. You're not disputing anything. N o one made the claim that Goku would use It for ftl speeds. You just decided to throw it out there. Besides the fact that goku uses it to dodge attacks and follow up with kicks and energy atatcks is almost pointless because Thor isn't ftl. It states it in the manga you didnt read.

So wait? we're using the retcon thor...if that's the case I will retract my previous posts, does the OP have to state it's the retcon thor or is it just assumed unless stated otherwise?

People are saying thor isn't fast enough to keep up with goku and I'm saying that the speeds vary so much in dragon ball that it's impossible to tell what speed there actually capable of as it's never stated, I then made sure to cover the whole IT thing as there were people mentioning it and I didn't want anyone using it as a valid argument for goku's speed.

You then ignore some of the remarks you made which I questioned...aka the whole goku travelling from one side of planet namek to the other in 1 SECOND, I would like you to post either a scan for the manga or a video link in the anime to prove this.

And no it wasn't obvious with the whole power level thing as you can't just throw that statement around and expect everyone to assume you're just referring to power in general when you involve dragon ball z which uses a power system called power level.

But please post some scans of them stating speeds that don't involved IT as validation of there speed and prove me wrong, I will gladly accept them if there true.

He clearly stated odin force Thor is being used. 
 
And i'm saying you keep mentioning stuff from the anime that isn't even canon to say db is inconsistent. It doesn't matter if their speed isn't stated. You're comparing their speed to thors. It comes down to who's speed feats are better. 
 
I didn't ignore anything, i've already shown the scan.  http://www.animevice.com/forums/battles/33/thor-vs-gokuvegetagohan/332113/?page=last#reply_form 
 
Does Thor exist in the dbu universe? does rthor have a power level? Was i not responding to a comment on thors strength? Ok then, it should have been obvious. 
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@jazmac: I dont know why i do this to myself.  Thor can not lift misgard serpent. He is no longer at the same strength level. I didnt mean he had a power level. This should have been obvious.  You're not disputing anything. N o one made the claim that Goku would use It for ftl speeds. You just decided to throw it out there. Besides the fact that goku uses it to dodge attacks and follow up with kicks and energy atatcks is almost pointless because Thor isn't ftl. 
 
It states it in the manga you didnt read.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@taichokage said:

I tried to ignore this thread but at over 90 posts so far I knew there must be stubborn arguments going on. This is senseless, Thor would win. I say this unbiasedly because they are both my favorite anime and comic characters. But this is done highly in favor of Thor. He is set up in a manner that this would be one of his stronger incarnations and clearly more powerful than his current self, whereas Goku is considerably weaker than his current or max self whether you count Gt or not. Ssj1? Really? Even were Goku at max Gt power, he would still lose because or the Odinforce. I would say a decent battle between the two would be Classic Thor with no chronokinesis or current Thor vs SSJ4 Goku. A Thor much stronger than that would surely kill Goku.

This is still going on because no one seems to know what they're talking about. Just because this battle was set up to favor Thor, doesn't mean he wins. Name one single thing Thor can do to Goku, that goku cant dodge or counter. I love how everyone is going oh thor wins because he has odin force. Odin force Thor struggled against captain america. Nearly died from attacks from a stated planet buster. Got owned By Rulk.  Got owned by Doctor Strange. G ot owned by the Dark Avengers.  He dented adamantium, after captain america dodged him like 6 times. But he's going to hit Goku who dodged Kid Buu's transmutation beams? The only time Thor stated he got an increase in durability is when he was stating he was nearly killed by Bor. And Thor calls Bor a planet buster in the same comic. But Thor will surely kill Goku. Man Goku stomps. Odin force Thor is the Super Saiyan 4 of Thor incarnations. 
 
@jazmac said: 

As some have said before, you can't post low end feats as evidence to support your character as I'm pretty sure every character in comics and anime has one low end feat that just makes them look pathetic 


Heres an idea. Why dont you be one of the first people to post superior feats instead of calling every scan of thor getting owned low end showings.  
 

(while not an expert on Thor Knowledge) Thor wins this hands down, he has way more feats than goku does and has shown the ability to lift cities and the midgard serpent.

Clearly. Feats that no one will post. Classic thor lifted the misgard serpent once. After  failing in for previous and subsequent attempts. And he of course is nowhere near the same power levels. 
 
The rest of your post you start talking about non canon anime exclusive and movie scenes to downplay dbz. Goku went to new namek with his IT in the manga. And he already stated its instantaneous. But k. Goku flew from one side of planet namek to the other in one second. Everything else. Same old same old. i dont know anything about thor, but he wins, because other people think he wins.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

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@leofull said:

@Job said:


Once again this is coming from the guy who copy pasted his entire Op from a wiki page.

Again, you assume I did.

I didn't assume anything. Your list started with the same exact feats from mjonirs wiki. Just stop. Do you think editing  words (to make thor seem more powerful) here and there  is going to trick people? 
  

@Job : I'm done with you, you're just trolling, you have provided no arguments for the scans I posted, you keep insulting people, and get called on and just ignore it. Why mods let you have an account is beyond me. 


Your drivel was countered on page two  http://www.animevice.com/forums/battles/33/goku-vs-thor/333416/?page=2. And since then all you've done is sit here and throw out insults. Just like falcon. Just like speedy. I'm trolling and yet if you look up i'm the one countering edited scans. I get called out and then i counter with my own scans and then you all get amnesia. The let me have an account for the same reason that let you falcon and speedy have an account. Now go sulk with your butthurtness and continue to choose insults over facts, scans and feats. Goku stomps.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@SpeedForceSpider: Thanks for proving my point. I'll add you to my ignore on sight with falcon. Yeah i know bro, i'm so angry and buthhurt over showing everyone here you had edited scans. Im so mad. Goodnight.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@SpeedForceSpider:

 @Job : LMAO you're a fool that's not the point I was trying to make. Nice try tho trying to twist my words.

Your argument makes no sense why would Goku try to dive into the sun? He can't even breath in space and it will distroy any suit he is in. You can't even put up a sound argument.

My points where that Thor has survived much worse than Goku. So punching a hole through his chest is Bull and you know it. 

If you had bothered clicking the link that was proivided to you, you would know Bardock, Goku, and Gotenks have been in space with no problems. And akira Toryioma wrote a story in DBO in which he stated Vegeta and Goku flew into space for one last fight and was star busting. My arguments make no sense to you, because you haven't a clue as to what you're talking about. But i''m the fool. I love it when you little guys insult me. The smile on my face when i reply is twice as big. 
 
It says in your own scan that Thor was being amped. But i'm the fool.
It says in your own scan that Thor was being amped. But i'm the fool.
 
oh wait no it doesnt, because yours is edited 
 
LOL 
LOL 
This is what i'm talking about.  People edit scans in respect  threads to wank. And now you folks regurgitate these edited scans thinking you're experts. So Thor had odin force was being amped and still almost died? Impressive.
 
So Thor needed beta ray bills help and magic to lift a castle. This is supposed to be impressive?  Vegeta' s 10 year old son kicked majin buu through 2 mountains. And Goku did the same to freiza in base form. He caught frieazs hand and then crushed it. The same hand that frieze swiped, and created a chasm in the planet. I didnt realize having common sense made me an idiot. But hey you're the expert, you have edited scans. What do i know?
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@Job: The problem with that is we are no longer arguing speed feats. Give some energy projection and strength feats stuff that can put Thor down. And stop using feats from other characters to prove your point. You keep regurgitating the same BS over and over again its quite tiresome.

I gave you the links. 
http://www.animevice.com/forums/battles/33/thor-vs-gokuvegetagohan/332113/?page=last#reply_form Energy projection, speed, durability..all right there. Goku's feats are listed genius. So stop wasting my time. First scans i show are Gokus blitzing half a planet in a second in namek saga. Followd up with scans from daizenshuu 7 stating goku to be multi planet busting. With SSj1 not charging up can  destroy over 20 planets. Goku blocking attacks that killed people who survived planet busters and planets exploding. Scans showing Thor not being fast enough to absorb energy attacks and almost dying because of it. Someone already posted scans of  captain america dodging odin force thors attacks and hitting him. But you think Goku (having full knowledge of thors abilities) isnt going to dodge  even though he dodged friezas eye beams easily? Kid buu's transmutations beams.  Captain america can dodge them, but not Goku? The fact that all it takes to destroy thors hammer is molecular level attacks. Scans have already been shown showing that Z fighters energy attacks are molecular level, Goku's included. This is the type of crap i'm taking about. You have no argument, just baseless accusations and insults.. You people are so beyond any sense of civility or rationality. You don't care about facts. I get it. You don't like me shoving the fact that you know nothing about comics in all of your faces. It's your own faults. You wan comics you all never read, but when asked for feats you have nothing to say.  Goku stomps. Go cry about it.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@ReiKai: The sun's temperature doesn't harm Thor at all. You also have to take into consideration other factors such as Kelvin which produces 15.6 million Kelvin and over 380 billion billion megawatts of nuclear reactions going off and 5,000,000 tons of energy being produced in the form of Gamma Rays every second. The Sun's core also exerts an atmospheric pressure that would be 250 billion times that of Earth. Thor was fighting in it he laughs at 100x gravity. He lolstomps the DBU.

So heat resistance equals, blunt  force and energy resistance? Thats the type of "rational" thinking i've come to expect on this site. 
 
 
Thor can dive in suns. Ok Goku can blow them up  according  to Akira Toriyama in DBO. I also love how you assume Goku  couldn't  dive into a sun. He's never tried. Thor was getting hurt from mountain busting strength in his Beta Ray Bill fight. Gokus going to punch a hole in his chest and pee through it.  
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@FalconC2: The problem with Job's argument is he tries and use low end feats for Thor but doesn't post any solid feats for Goku that would prove us wrong.

Thor can fight in the sun's extreme temperatures but Goku almost died getting close.

@Job: You're a hypocrite, you want people posting feats for Thor so bad. But we have yet to see the feats that put Goku above Thor.

No one cares for your pathetic baseless claims silly fanboy.

LMFAO...your problem is the same as everyone else. you open your mouth call me a lowballer, bt refuse to post superior feats. Instead of posting proof of your claims you call me a hypocrite. you want to see my scans and proof  
 http://www.animevice.com/forums/battles/33/thor-vs-gokuvegetagohan/332113/?page=last#reply_form   
 http://www.animevice.com/forums/battles/33/goku-vs-thor/333416/?  
 there you go.
 
My problem is that i'm on a dead website debating with scans and facts, against idiots who state popular opinion based on fan made respect threads. My problem is i expect one of you people to actually back up your claims and to have read the comics you're all wanking. instead i receive abc logic. Thor hit silver surfer, so that's an ftl feat. Hulk has hit silver surfer. Namor, spiderman. No one cares for facts, or else you would have shown some by now,. I love how you small people insult me over and over and over again. And yet no scans. I ask for proof of your claims, i get insulted. Throwing out insults and claims of hypocrisy is easy little guy. Backing up your bs claims, not so much.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@leofull said:


unlike Job who merely relies on wikis. 

Once again this is coming from the guy who copy pasted his entire Op from a wiki page.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@Job: Based on her powerset such as Gravitikinesis, Intangibility, Minor MM, Light generation to extent like a more intense solar-flare,etc

She cant phase through energy, gravity manipulation means nothing to beings who can train at 100 times earth gravity, and she generates light that blinds people. Goku can do that. As i said, Mrs Marvel regularly challenges her. Goku would punch her head off before she could even think to move. 
 


Job said:

You also forgot to post those scans of thor going ftl

I didn't. I responded to you and showed Thor going into hyperspace, and hyperspace is a dimension where objects can only travel at or faster than the speed of light.

I know what hyperspace is, and clearly you didn't read me saying its useless in a fight.
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

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@CerberusPrime3k said:

@shonen: Moonstone can definitely take on goku

Based on what? Her ability to lose to Mrs marvel?
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@ReiKai said:

You forget to show where he maims the shit out of them and goes onto kill Bor, Father of Odin, First King of Asgard, one of the founding creators of the Universe.

You forgot to mention how he needed to be rescued first from being knocked out. You forgot to mention how bor broke Thor's ribs with a single blow. You forgot to mwntion how Thor himself stated one hit almost killed him.  You forgot to mention how Thor stated Bor was a planet buster and was still getting hurt from his attacks. You forgot to mention how asgardian Gods are weakened on earth. You also forgot to post those scans of thor going ftl
Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6

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@ReiKai said:
it is PIS. Thor has a heavy respect for Cap. Thor has already demonstrated massive FTL. O thers with Thor's powers have shown FTL.
Post it. this is like the 4th thread iv'e seen you in making this claim and yet you haven't posted a single scan. Here's Thor punching silver surfer, something Hulk has done its an ftl feat.  Heres Thor flying and fighting silver surfer in space. No indication of speed is given, but i'll claim its FTL anyway.You've had well over a week to prove otherwise, and you haven't. Not a single scan. oh wait, you did post a scan, one where Thor flys through a portal, and claimed it was FTL speeds and not hyperspace. 
 
Odin force thor struggled with Captain america, Rulk, Ironman, Wolverine, and the list goes on. Goku stomps.
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