Even if its a fist fight many could still beat him
- Black Adam (DC)
- Gemini Saga (Saint Seiya)
- Tyrant [marvel] (original form)
- Asgardian Destroyer [marvel]
- Capt. Marvel [marvel]
- Mad Jim Jaspers [marvel]
@solesamurai: do you know about toriko's ultimate routine? he would pretty much reduce them to a pile of bones just by creating the image on his head. i dont think tey even have the speed to react.
genjutsu is instant though
but solesamurai is right Toriko superior in other feats.
far too many people seem to overestimate Toriko.
But most Bleach chars cant take on most mid level OP chars so this post is kinda pointless.
@Nerx: toriko's creativity is sick!! he manages his set of skills unlike any other character i have seen so far
You claim that the feats that nappa lack in would make him lose the fight, like speed, + you keep saying its only mach 9 and yet OBD says (mach 14-30) so you just made up the figure...
but would it not go done to who gets the 1st attack in? 1 hit from a blast and toriko is done.
but if toriko get his 1st hit, his striking strength is not good enough to put nappa down with 1 hit (10^9 - 10^12 kg): [The mass of the human world population, the largest man-made structures.] because Nappa can take more than toriko can.
BTW Magneto is not officially omega level
he has feats that could make him omega but there is no confirmation to say he is
unlike Iceman and jean.
In the X-men universe, there's a system of measuring the power levels of individual mutants, from Epsilon to Alpha, with the added Omega class being at the top as the creme de la creme of powerful individuals. There are eleven mutants that have been classified as being omega-level (according to Wikipedia, the number varies depending on where one looks); Jean Grey, Rachel Summers, Nate Grey, Vulcan, Hope Summers, Iceman , Mister M, Quentin Quire, Elixir, Legion and Franklin Richards. Some, such as Storm and Magneto, have been listed as possible omega-level, but it's not clear as to what that actually means. - what I found on comicvine
This fight comes down to who ever hits 1st and how far away they start from each other
Law is faster so could get close to her quickly and Storm has no regeneration so her durability is only a bit above a normal humans but she does have great reactions [she can react to lightning bolts]
she aslo has planetary range so she could fly as far away as she wants and still beat him + planetary destructive capability,she can make instant fog then make acid to kill him of fast.
her main attack she would use would most likely be her flash freeze [Manipulates the temperature to instantly freeze her opponent solid.]
But like i said if Law manages to stab her 1st its over.
@ohgodwhy: i dont blame you for believing that. some lower tier characters (luffy for example has massive reaction speeds) do that. toriko himself has lightspeed reactions. my point here is that even with that toriko should have no problem tagging the likes of nappa or vegeta. and considering their resist to punches and kicks things get ugly for them.
we could go for the good ol stats comparison and see who would win (dont kill me for this) im just gonna post every possible stat.
lifting strenght: edge-toriko
striking strenght: edge-toriko
DC: edge- vegeta by far
hax: edge- toriko (ultimate routine broken as hell)
intelligence: edge- toriko
in character for fights: edge-toriko (vegeta is cocky, especially scouter)
if dragon ball characters had the same resist to punches and kicks than they have against energy based attacks this would be a no contest. i wouldnt even argue for toriko it would be a stomp. but toriko excels in the one weakness of the z fighters and that's what keeps this debate alive.
what site did you get these from? &
@nishi99: it gets bombarded with filler? i fail to see why dragon ball characters never do that in fights oh wait its because they would die too. instead they resort to a fist fight and lower class energy strikes that sometimes dont even mountain bust. and that would result in toriko wooping vegeta.
@ChromeDisaster: yeah if vegeta started spamming ki blasts toriko would have a really hard time but i dont see vegeta doing that. at least not right off the bat.
Why not, he always did this in the anime and lets not forget DBZ chars can fly spamming ki blast and flying is something toriko could not handle.
and as soon as the moon is out toriko is dead no matter what.
@GrayWolf2: oh no no goku can actually hit really hard he is easily class 100 regarding striking power. of course he isnt the hulk either. im just saying that his striking power pales in comparison to his energy output. that's the only true reson i believe toriko characters have a shot. if it wernt for that i wouldnt even argue.
But this is like saying these two would have a fist fight, they are = in speed and toriko has more attacks
but at the end of the day Nappa is more powerfull
people keep saying Napper would not use his best attacks strait away, but why not as soon as he relizes hes no averge human hes going to go full force
the manga/anime shows when it comes to combat he can be quite clever.
He would of most likely beaten Goku to death if it was not for the Kaioken.
How did it skip from star to omniverse? You definitely missed a few steps. toriko is not city level durability he is far above that, and Omniverse level is kinda silly, when you get up that point durability is a non factor, especially considering any threat to the omniverse aside from the source and TOAA(acceptions being HOM Scarlet witch and HOTU Thanos)usually don't don't have physical forms. They're usually like 12-16d life forms(the living tribunal is a 16d life form) Physical attacks would no longer effect them.
I skipped it because it took up too much room and both characters are not that advanced so there is no point in me adding it. and how is durability a non factor it determines how much they can take, [Moon/Planetoid Level - - Nappa's Durability] toriko can not throw attacks strong enough to destroy a moon, Nappa on the other hand can and raditz too. The only reason why raditz dies so fast in the manga/Anime is because it was a 2vs1 fight.
so again just because toriko is strong (Striking Strength [10^6 - 10^9 kg]: The mass of the largest ship or a small pyramids) does not mean it can destroy a moon. He would need (10^18 - 10^21 kg) to stand a chance.
And lets not forget if the moon is out Oozaru comes out to.
and the fact that Rob Lucci could beat him in a fight [With extreme difficulty] means he has no chance when Vs a Saiyan.
If these guys are fighting in character aizen would never use his Bankai strait away, this was always his weakness he thinks hes the best. Vader on the other hand would just kill him and be done the reason for this is because he would use his memory manipulation to learn everything about aizen, the only reason why he did not kill Luke in seconds was because its his son [and the movie would of sucked with out a big fight scene]. Aizen may be able to control senses but Vader is also a master of psychological manipulation.
So in conclusion DVader would just use his advanced techniques and kill him in seconds after using memory manipulation. No need for force choke just nap his neck with the force instead, its not like Aizen could run or fly away, his range is interplanetary with the force.
Why do people think that aizen can withstand all the force and other techs
his telekinesis can move the guy with only moving 1 arm.
Memory manipulation He can rip into the mind of his opponent to gain info like he did in episode VI in his final duel with his son or learn new things such as a new language (called drain knowledge).
Pyrokinesis is what Anakin skywalker at a young age accidently burnt an opponent from the inside. Vader has greater mastery of the force than him...
so how does the great aizen surpass that trolling like he did in bleach? No.
@othus12: Like I said before he may be strong [not strong enough to 1 hit KO the guy that took on the Z fighters before Goku came a long] but DBZ chars durability is on another level no one in toriko/bleach/OP can survive an attack strong enough to take out the moon...
Ill put it into a scale:
1. Below Average Human Level
2. Human Level
3. Peak Human Level
4. Wall/Tree Level
5. Small Building Level
6. Large Building Level
7. City Block Level
8. Multi City Block Level
9. Town Level
10. City Level --Toriko's Durability
11. Mountain Level
12. Island Level
13. Country Level
14. Continent Level
15. Moon/Planetoid Level - - Nappa's Durability
16. Planetary Level
17. Planet Level
18. Multi Planet Level
19. Star Level
27. Omniverse Level
@jnw93: because destructive capabilities arent everything. toriko characters outclass dragon ball z characters strenght wise. as i said before:
goku without ssj1 lifts 40 tons. sani can lift 90 million tons. take a guess.
of course i dont mean to tell you they can take on a super saiyan hell no. but for now they should be able to take on nappa.
toriko's only feat that is better than Nappa's is the fact that he can lift more than he can...
what happens when Nappa flys and start spitting projectiles, on top of that durability plays a massive part in a battle and toriko's is not good enough.
plus his shock wave attack can be seen from space I cant see Toriko surviving that: