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Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Lord Oberon (Gargoyles) vs HST

Luffy broke part of Z's Kairoseki arm which is hard as diamond AND it's the weakness of DF users

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Devil Fruit » Who has the strongest Devil Fruit power in one piece?

blackbeards devil fruit has the greatest superiority to other devil fruits BUT it doesnt exactly mean it's the strongest. In terms of raw power, White Beards quake fruit has been the most powerful I'd say, and Kizarus light fruit has been the most useful really. I am excited to see other mystical zone types as well

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Kirge Opie

@ChromeDisaster: yeah that's a bull shit fight they made in the anime, luffy stomps hody

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Kirge Opie

@ChromeDisaster: this is the part where I shit all over you isnt it?

where to staaaart... oh right! on the OBD (Which you can go look up yourself) Luffy is calced to be 30+ mach, something no bleach character so far has been able to do, what with dodging lasers and dancing around liquid explosions with ease.

and what the hell are you talking about? Luffy dodged all of hordys arrows like it was nothing, if you're gonna smash on a characters power, pull up a feat that makes sense XD

@taichokage: the bite from hordy jones doesnt really mean much, the guy was a tank and was biting through steel before his power up, not to mention luffy was able to shrug it off. the reason that it did anything to affect him was the fact that he was bleeding out, something no other anime actually takes into account as far as I can tell, but lets not get into that :P luffy would just have to launch a series of attacks from behind him which would be an easy feat, speed is definitely on his side. whats his blut vene again? we're talking about the absorbing particles right?

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Kirge Opie

@ChromeDisaster: so let me get this straight... your arguement is... 'what can haki do? I dont know, but because of my dull knowledge on it I'm going to just keep saying it's useless and luffy gets chopped'.... this is how people get seen as terrible debaters on the battle forum -.- Heres where your entire arguement goes to hell 1. the only cutting he will be doing is of air, since he couldnt even tag ichigo, luffy is faster at the moment

2. how could he snipe luffy if it provides precognition which means he'd see it coming and dodge it like kizarus lasers which are most likely way faster

3. in the manga it showed that his blut attack only worked on stuff in front of him, for ichigo was able to hit him from behind and was not affected, so a quick move behind kirge and hes done

Dont come at me with a bunch of bull crap you just spew because you think you know something, because obviously you dont know crap

@taichokage: the getsuga tensho wasnt even that grand, and his focus was on the disk in the head, not his neck. It kinda gets rebuttled when you realize kisuke knocked him out with a simple attack and then he's murdered by something less than the getsuga tensho

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Kirge Opie

@ChromeDisaster: alright give me your reasoning besides the bullcrap of him cutting off his arms and killing him because thats stupid :P

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Kirge Opie

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: Well for the problem with the abosrbing thing Luffy would just have to break the disk on his head correct? With haki he could predict taht a frontal assault would kill him, and use his speed to get behind him. He might not know about the weakness on the head, but he usually goes for head shots with jet pistols or armament pistols. Luffy is notably faster than Ichigo is right now, and kirge admitted he could barely even keep up as it was with ichigo. as for flight he would just jumo and use his arms to stretch any distance between them as always.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Kirge Opie

@taichokage: his only real advantage is that cage thing, other than that luffy speed blitzes with a red hawk easily, orihime and chad are weak as usual so I consider them fodder, ichigo was able to get in close and mess him up, luffy does that without a problem. You have underestimated luffy in this battle my friend XD

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Kirge Opie

luffy doesnt use spirit particles, he smashes since kirges thing wouldnt affect him, not to mention it has a weakness.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Current Black Star Vs Current Roronoa Zoro

zoro should win but itd be a good match, but we need to see a bit more of the marimo too... I feel like oda is reserving Zoro for something cuz he hasnt had much good action since the start of the time skip :I

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Nine-Tails Kurama vs R1 Yammy

kurama smashes him, unless he has the same speed he would have when smaller which isnt the case since he still got smacked around by two captains with ease.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Starfire (DC Comics) vs. Zangya (Dragon Ball)

@Sonata: never saw the movie so I wouldnt know, just going off the picture in the title XD

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Starfire (DC Comics) vs. Zangya (Dragon Ball)

Luffy could beat Starfire, she's not that fast and her strength is HST level, although I dont know how strong some fodder from a DBZ movie is, beating Krillin doesnt give you much of a high rank XD it'd be worse if it was yamcha, but I'm sure if she even kicked him his whole body would explode XD

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Kuma vs Doflamingo

everyones waiting to see the full potential of doflamingo now :P

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Kuma and Law vs Naraku

@Whats_out_the_bag said:

@Jinbeifan1:

My point was it worked on those with human level durability, but only knocked them out.

????

What does body durability have to do with the power and strength of the mind?

Kagome clearly out classes him in that. As I've already listed, she's resisted soul fuck and mind fuck.

This took her out with ease. InuYasha was cought as well the guy who has at least big hill small mountain level durability.

So it's not a factor if he can take more damage as it's not physical it's psychological. If not it would be more so dealing with the soul.

You have no idea on how it would do against those with far more so if all it can do is restrain him it'd be momentary in which Law would easily get out of with his power

lol Yet you've never proven that he can use his powers while not being about to move.

dont pull the bleach arguement "They're spirits they cant beat them" its an old nutshell everyone has cracked.

What bleach argument? I just asked if he could sense a ghost. Because that would be something along the lines of spirutal/demon level. Which would mean he could sense the webs.

This is a fight where they CAN see him. Also yes Haki does allow those to sense the spirit of others or at least others presence, which Rayleigh explains

Sensing spirits are different from sensing presents.

Also with Naraku's barrier he can hide his presents. Hiding him self so well, that InuYasha, Koga, nor Sesshomaru could find him. InuYasha being only half demon can only smell a couple of miles, but Sesshomaru can smell way farther. Naraku is like a true ninja some times, how he just fades away or pops up. This is why Kagome was so important, as she was capable of senseing the ewel shards ,which Naraku could hide as well.

You don't find Naraku less he wants to be found.

It doesnt mind control, it controls the pieces that he cuts.

Mind explain a little more. Or if you have a scan that explains that's cool too.

Law has island range capabilities and he's faster than Naraku, I dont see how he could get far away from them.

The only advantage to speed is you can't hit what you can't see. Which Naraku can make up for not being fast. In many battles I've seen Naraku in battle forums, he doesn't need speed as his powers make up for the lack of it.

He cant regenerate because the cut is not damaging his body directly, it is just making him vulnerable to Laws ability.

Interesting I need to do some research...

So I went to go do some research on his powers on the One piece wiki. It wasn't noted to be able to stop regeneration like Sesshomaru's Bakusaiga. If it does just show me a scan of him doing so or stating it.

Also don't think it will stop end of series Naraku from regenerating. He did regenerate from Bakusaiga and Meidou zangetsuha.

I would like a scan or a statement of this please, where it would say that he controls the five senses or something supposedly more impressive.

I gotcha

First, Sango was tricked into killing Rin in order to save Miroku. Which Sesshomaru stops her. Don't feel like getting scans but the next part is my favorite and it all happens at the same time as this.

Second, Miroku was tricked into using his wind tunnel, which he was on his last legs and would have died if he did so. Also being tricked into nearly kiling InuYasha and Kagome. He couldn't hear nor see InuYasha.

I'll let this first conversation go because I have no idea whether the webs have to do with durability or the mind :P

I already proved he didnt need to move his hand to teleport but you wont believe it, so I'm not going to continue this arguement either

sensing the presence of a demon or ghost should be the same as sensing a persons presence, because they both still have a presence, aint no changing that. All three of those people have nothing on Haki senses, it's much greater in scale to theirs. Kagome might be different, but she senses a certain type of spiritual energy and so sensing his presence instead of his energy is much easier.

heres the best explanation made for laws abilities in the manga

as for the regeneration thing heres the proof, he can take a logia users abilities and still seal it within his room like when he fought smoker

later it turns out smoker is alive because technically its still part of his body. the reason his ability stops regeneration is because he isnt truly hacking his enemies apart understand?

as for the illusions I cant say whether those are even near as good as Aizen's or not, because sure it worked great on miroku but that doesnt mean much. Naruto characters like the uchihas could cast similar illusions on people, but that doesnt necessarily mean they are controlling the five senses. In fact it makes me wonder why he didnt just cast one on Inuyasha and Kagome so that they sat still while miroku used the wind tunnel

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Kuma and Law vs Naraku

@Whats_out_the_bag said:

well sorry but if it didnt even work on kagome then I'd say it's definitely not gonna work on Law,

Where do you get it didn't work on Kagome from? It worked on Kagome,InuYasha,and Kikiyo all at the same time. InuYasha was the only one who didn't see it until it was one him.

Kagome saw them, but it grabbed her. She was knocked out could. This is the girl who can resist mind fuck and soul fuck.

Also if it didn't work on Kagome why would it magically not work on Law? He's nothing like Kagome. He has no spiritual powers, nor can he see the dead, which I'll bring up again.

Kagome isn't some weak little girl, she's the reason why her verse wasn't raped.

it may restrain him but that's the most it can do

I know it will restraint him or knock him out either will do. Gives Naraku all the time he needs to stab/shoot a spear at.

to correct you here it is, you dont have to see the enemy to predict it, it's actual precognition or it wouldnt be as useful as it really is

So can he sense a ghost? I've never seen precognition work like this before. I've seen hit heighten a users abilites like vision and hearing, but not allowing him to trace anyone and anything. I really don't see how he would see something like this, that only characters like Kagome and Kikiyo could see. The special character. Hell InuYasha couldn't even see them and he's a demon who can see ghost and spirits with ease.

it's a factor because Law's cut is Island level

Nice

Law has total control over him.

Proof that it can control Naraku? Also how would he hit what he can't see? Naraku can be far away and fight them. Since that's what he does all the time, he's a very smart villain he doesn't risk his life.

He cant regenerate from this because it's not a true cut, his power prevents him from regeneration as shown when he fought smoker who's a logia type.

This is End of Series Naraku. The guy who regenerated from Bakusaiga and the Cutting Meidou Zangetsuha attack. He should still be capable of regenerating. But it wouldn't matter as he can still fight in pieces. He's been ripped to pieces and he can still fight.

Naraku's illusion are easily at or above Aizens (Just so you can compare the power), but you don't have to look at something for it to happen it just does.

My point was it worked on those with human level durability, but only knocked them out. You have no idea on how it would do against those with far more so

if all it can do is restrain him it'd be momentary in which Law would easily get out of with his power

dont pull the bleach arguement "They're spirits they cant beat them" its an old nutshell everyone has cracked. This is a fight where they CAN see him. Also yes Haki does allow those to sense the spirit of others or at least others presence, which Rayleigh explains

It doesnt mind control, it controls the pieces that he cuts. Law has island range capabilities and he's faster than Naraku, I dont see how he could get far away from them. He cant regenerate because the cut is not damaging his body directly, it is just making him vulnerable to Laws ability.

I would like a scan or a statement of this please, where it would say that he controls the five senses or something supposedly more impressive.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Naraku vs Orochimaru

naraku stomps him mercilessly, this guy is competing with OP top tiers, whats this loser gonna do? :p

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Storm Vs Trafalgar Law

@One_Piece_God: theres so muuuuuch.... hmm well in answer to the mist like taichokage said he just removes it, he can do the same with the snow or teleport himself behind ororo, and she has no way of blocking his attacks AT ALL that's the real problem here, she has the mojo to fight him but to block him? She has no defense against that especially since his range is so good.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Kuma and Law vs Naraku

@Whats_out_the_bag said:

1. well obviously it never killed them so that doesnt mean much

Because of PIS. Naraku cuts it off and leaves them along, because of PIS. He had a goal and he achieved it.

2. you dont use haki to see it, it will predict what will happen before it does, so it'll warrant him to move obviously it didnt show him waving them in any way so that accordingly means he doesnt need them to teleport

It predicts what someone will do, it will help you dodge things that are in sight of you.

Seeing as they can't see Naraku they can't predict nor sense him or his webs. They won't be able to see it. Also what do you mean by " obviously it didnt show him waving them in any way so that accordingly means he doesn't need them to teleport"

Law has displaced things multiple times, so he could move it to different places as he likes within his room and kuma repels air itself so how is miasma any different?

Not truly different, but like I said he needs to continuously do this. It's continuously following out.

4. They would have to disable him before anything, is his shields and barriers above island busting? without them it'd be easy for law to cut him, and kumas shock waves would go through his barriers

It's not island level. But why would that be a factor?

Barrier : Unknown but only to be broken by Adamant Barrage "diamond spears ", which is compared to Wind Scar.

Body : Naraku's body is capable of tanking wind scar, which was compared to a feeble breezes. Wind Scar is capable of taking out a large hill (That was stated to be a mountain). Body is way harder than diamond.

Also Naraku's amazing regeneration is here as a factor.

Finding Naraku is hard as hell if he doesn't want to be found. Hiding him self is simple. Teleporation is key.

-I'll be back to explain more ways on how he wins, I'm just beginning. I i must I'll just explain him using the most hax'd weapon here-

well sorry but if it didnt even work on kagome then I'd say it's definitely not gonna work on Law, it may restrain him but that's the most it can do

to correct you here it is, you dont have to see the enemy to predict it, it's actual precognition or it wouldnt be as useful as it really is

It's a factor because Law's cut is Island level

of course I know this wont kill him, but what I do know is that it's not meant to. once he cuts him, Law has total control over him. He cant regenerate from this because it's not a true cut, his power prevents him from regeneration as shown when he fought smoker who's a logia type.

and both Law and Kuma teleport, doesnt mean much to them

Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Kuma and Law vs Naraku

1. well obviously it never killed them so that doesnt mean much

2. you dont use haki to see it, it will predict what will happen before it does, so it'll warrant him to move

obviously it didnt show him waving them in any way so that accordingly means he doesnt need them to teleport

3. Law has displaced things multiple times, so he could move it to different places as he likes within his room and kuma repels air itself so how is miasma any different?

4. They would have to disable him before anything, is his shields and barriers above island busting? without them it'd be easy for law to cut him, and kumas shock waves would go through his barriers

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