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@The Stegman said:
@ohgodwhy:Contrary to popular belief, the Pacifista beam wasn't going at light speed no where near that in fact, maybe supersonic, Naruto himself has gotten a great speed boost in his Kyuubi form, able to easily dodge a Kage level Lariat. As for Haki abilities, only one will work in my opinion, like you said, King's haki won't work, Naruto isn't weak willed, as for Kenbunshoku, it has a hard time predicting random, erratic attacks, that's exactly what the Fox shroud is, as Sasuke stated, it attacks on its own, making even Sasuke, with a fully developed sharingan have trouble following it. Bushoshoku might work, but I doubt even it can stand up to a mountain busting tailed beast bomb if Naruto goes to his beast form. For the first time in either anime, I think Naruto would win the majority of the fights at his current levels.
I wouldn't say Naruto could defeat Luffy by "ease" on any account. Luffy's shown himself to be more than a match to Naruto when he dodged the Pacifistas's beam with no difficulty what so ever, or at least he made it look that way.
I'm not going to compare speeds here because there is no way to compare speeds but I'm sure Naruto is not much faster than Luffy. In fact Luffy may be faster than Naruto given his ability to use Soru like effects even pre time skip.
Luffy also has his haki abilities which would let him read his opponent's attacks and create highly impermeable defences. He could also use the king's haki but I'm sure Naruto would have enough will to resist that.
Overall I still give this fight to Luffy though, but it could go either way because Naruto is definitely able to keep up with Luffy and we haven't seen the full extent of his bijuu powers.
now i dont believe that the laser moves at light speed either, BUT it is massively above supersonic, I know that for sure.
a kage level lariat was dodged by Bee, that doesnt mean much.
Mantra works better than the sharingan in that sense, it is precognition, not the prediction of moves, as we have seen luffy dodging multiple water arrows moving at supersonic speed before.
the tailed beast bomb has to land to do damage, but as we have seen before, it can be deflect before it lands. Luffy I say moves just as fast if not faster than naruto does, even when he has gear 3rd activated. he can close in and seal the deal with elephant gun gatling
@FormerCrimsonKing: we didnt even get to see the attack because of wonderweiss, so im iffy on that one. if he was smarter he would have whipped out his bankai and finished them all off in a few seconds, but he didnt... the writer of bleach has so many plot holes i swear.
@FormerCrimsonKing: ithe shockwave would disperse the fire before it gets to him, the same way he did to ace's fire and akainu's lava. and i believe it should since it was able to reach aokiji in the mid air. and if he surrounded him with flames, then what? WB could either use his staff sword (i forget what its called) and mix it with a quake or haki and disperse it. and if that doesnt work, well then i dont know what yama ji could do to him while hes in there, for one thing he never took the chance of that and tried to kill them while they were sealed off, so i can only assume that its meant to keep someone in, but cannot be attacked from the outside
@FormerCrimsonKing: actuallly now that i think about it, he shouldnt have won that thread. people were too focused on what he could tank. while he may be able to tank a lot that doesnt mean he can dish out that same amount. sure if he gets flying he has an advantage, but a quake answers any flames and kido he could launch at him
usually i would hate the idea of little girls beating up my former heroes but...
1 i didnt like dragon ball until they added a Z to it
2 I used to love PPG
so i go with the little girls on this one, but they would lose to more higher up DBZ characters, and they cant really tank much damage, that i remember very honestly
@5th: meh the whole slice thing is gonna become he said she said, you believe it counts as mountain busting, i believe it counts as city busting. fine then, lets get over that issue for now. btw, even if he did keep using that slash, a quake would match it and stop it, you still dont have anything to answer to one of their quakes, or possibly both at the same time. i've also said this already, but the bijuu bombs can easily be deflected away, so they can avoid or use it against their enemy in this situation. heck, if they wanted to, they could use a quake to block it or make it explode before hand on one of the bijuus. the ten tails is also featless, and unless the 8 or nine tails is here, then i dont see how he can summon it
@5th: just because it carved the ground as it went, doesnt make it a mountain buster. mihawk did something similar, slicing a mountain sized ice burg in half. hile that is impressive, thats only city busting material.
like i said before, BB could just absorb a bijuu bomb into darkness and send it back, even if its the big one. his darkness was able to stretch bery high over an island as shown in his fight with ace.
i keep forgeting to restrict that, he might as well be a logia type with that ability. its restricted, im changing it now.
ok im just gonna bump this thread so i can defend luffy, who i say has a chance. now sure, the bikuu bomb would definitely kill him, but it has to land first. he could use his mantra and see what it will do, then he can just deflect it like any other bomb. i know this is possible because naruto did it easily, and guy was about to do it
@aka_tsuki: it cut the top of the mountains off, not the entire mountain
he didnt react to naruto, naruto ran into him, he wasnt even able to phase first(wait thats obito) madara reacted fast enough because naruto wasnt going that fast, he was making a mini bijuu bomb which takes a bit of time
the six paths arent that strong. sure they can create bijuu bombs, but that can be deflected with haki to a safe distance. hell based on what we saw of naruto, WB could deflect it with his hand and throw it away before it explodes. as i said before, BB can absorb the bijuu bombs and send them back if he wanted to, and if they do an even bigger one, then they are totally screwed. but anyway, this fight is between the two listed above
@aka_tsuki: if they destroy the mini moon, then i doubt that theyll have a problem making anotherquake to destroy it. also, BB was hit directly in the face with a quake, he would be able to take a slash from the sword. especially since his darkness regenerates parts that are very damaged
@SpeedForceSpider: well the web thing could work, but this is Kaine, not ben. while he has most of the attributes, he does not have spider sense. and im not too sure about that either. he may take quite a few down, but miya was supposedly able to cut a aircraft carrier in half. of course kaine might still be able to beat her, but that would force him to rely on his speed a lot for the fight