Zebra murders, even if Garps an island + buster in his prime Zebra's still a country level buster :P
@SMXLR8: In his prime he beat Chinjao's headbutt with a punch, and the headbutt was high island level
Alright now that I've seen the deadly sins cards it's time for me to step in
For his "mind control" to take affect, he needs to hit his targets with arrows. He's not hitting any of them with arrows because of their CoO Haki. Not to mention that even if it did hit, they would only be under his memory swap for a few seconds before they realize the inconsistencies and break free.
Yes, he needs to hit his targets with his arrows in order for it to work, and he show that he can hit several Holy Knights with a few moves, meaning his accuracy is great. Furthermore, I'm afraid you are using observation haki as an ultimate evasive technique that can dodge anything and that is not true. We saw that even Enel with his observation haki of the size of an island still can be hit. Admirals didn't show their observation haki to be not even close to that so they can be hit. You conclusions are based on nothing.
Your argument that even if they can be hit they would be under his memory swap for a few seconds is also based on nothing, since admirals never show any feats on being resistant to mind control and since it's shown that Gowther's skills work pretty good and he can get enough time to mess with Holy Knights. I really don't know why you think Admirals will be an exception of Gowther skill.
And I have read every chapter so far of SDS. He usually doesn't use a weapon for the reasons stated here. Unless you'd consider his broken sword a weapon.
And even when she gave him that sword, he had to have Ban convince him to use or else he wouldn't have.
Since we can consider his being very powerful with a wooden stick (slicing a mountain in half with it) of course we can consider a broken sword to be his weapon. Look at the volume cover one and two, he is holding his standard equipment/broken weapon.
You can also see that his range is great so he doesn't even need to get close to the Admirals.
All it needs here is Gowther and Meliodas to defeat Admirals... and if you have a doubt we can always add immortal Ban and two more sins. There is no way Admirals can't win round one.
Round two is a whole different story...
Alright, I'll dispute your claims in the order that you went
1. Observation haki can most definitely predict the arrows that this Gowther can shoot. For one unless you show a scan that his arrows move at relativistic or light speed, you're going to need to say more than just 'they can definitely hit because they're accurate'. The problem isn't how accurate they are, it's how fast. Luffy can dodge swords being tossed at him at hypersonic speeds out of gears
While there isn't much I can argue about those memory things, if the arrows have to hit for it to work, then I doubt he is going to implant it like you think. You're also going to have to show me a speed feat from anyf them that puts them in admiral speed range
Also we've been over this feat, it's high town to small city level. I'm sure with a sword it's probably city level + but even without intangibility the admirals have island level durability. Receiving an island splitting quake to the face and getting up is quite impressive for Akainu.
Gowther could try and do hand to hand but will find a haki fist to the face from either one of these guys. Or he'll be frozen. Or incinerated. Or lasered. Take your pick. And as for gowther, how high is his durability? Same as the other sins? because if not, a couple good lasers which are very accurate and possibly much faster to the body will finish him. Or a shot to the head, which if any save for Ban gets hit to the head with, will die. And Ban will get frozen.
No, they don't win round one like you think. They have the numbers advantage, but at the moment the Admirals are superior in strength and speed to anyone on their team.
@hitsusatsu11: no but Sunny seemed to be after Toriko accepted. He kept saying that he was already partners with Komatsu XD
I haven't seen this fight in ages :P At their current states I still go for the anime team, much more so now thanks to both Luffy and Naruto power ups, and eventually we'll see just how much more powerful Ichigo is
@Destinyheroknight: Ah I see, whats meliodas capable of in demon form?
I think the numbers and speed would work to their advantage, but can he steal speed from more than one target at a time?
True, what can gowther's arrows do? Also while they may have the numbers advantage, Kizaru is probably the monkey wrench in that plan. His Light Mirror move will make it very hard for them to tag him at all, and he can move around enough to kick whoever he perceives as a threat to them.
@cosmicdude: I knew someone was gonna make a fight with terminators after that XD
@Destinyheroknight: Who ended up winning that fight, Ban? He seems strong enough in that fight at least. The real problem would be if (against Aokiji) is that if he gets touched once then he gets frozen. With kizaru well... a few lasers would definitely throw him off. Akainu... hmmm... I guess he could just stand there and let Ban punch lava? :P in fact I think the result against Aokiji would be the same as when he fought the monster trio. While obviously Ban is stronger than them pre time skip, I think it'd still be the same result
@Destinyheroknight: I'm sure that they'll compete as much as the HST with each other once they get more under their belts. Even Toriko looks like it might get as powerful as DBZ someday, I bet these two will someday be around the same strength of DBZ since it started out this strong
@Destinyheroknight: Ah so that's how it works. The flaw to his ability is that it also takes time to work, and while he may take speed and add it to his own, Admrial speed should be well above his own and they all have mantra and will predict his moves without fail, making it easier to tag him. Aokiji is most likely the best suited for him, so he can freeze him so that they don't have to worry about his ability or immortality.
@Destinyheroknight: hmm I see, well if they keep their intang active at all times which they usually do it should pass through, and yeah Kizaru is the big problem in this fight.
As for Ban, that will be a problem, Aokiji and Akainu would probably have to eliminate him first so that he couldnt affect them in such a way, or let kizaru put him down or maybe if Aokiji gets close enough he can freeze him. But I'd need to see his ability in action before I can totally judge it's true extensions :P Do you have any scans or links I can see of him using it? It sounds like it'd be a brawlers ultimate nullification if it works the way it sounds
@Destinyheroknight: I said that before, if it shows it can affect intangible enemies then fine, it would probably work on Logia types. But the sword shouldn't work, it may cause part of the ice or magma on Aokiji or Akainu to turn to stone but they could shed them off easily and it would pass through Kizaru like nothing. You'll have to be more specific with Bans powers before I could contest with him. And while I'm sure he could deflect their attacks, I still wonder if any of them are fast enough to keep up with any of the three, especially Kizaru.
@SMXLR8: It has a sense of almost everything under the sun basically XD Oda isi the most creative author I can think of, that's for sure. I sometimes really don't know what to expect next from One Piece, another part of why I love it. I usually have a really good sense of what's going to happen in most stories, but Oda turns around and slaps me saying "NO! You don't know squat" lol
@SMXLR8: @akronawol17: it's still just an assumption, one that would need evidence to back it up. And knowing Oda, I'm sure that some form of magic will eventually come into One Piece. He likes to bring in whatever he wants after all lol
@SMXLR8: We don't know that for sure though, certain fruits have certain weaknesses like Ace was still burned by Akainu, Luffy could hurt Enel and Crocidile could be hurt if wet (He probably has the worst weakness of them lol) So we cant jump to the conclusions that magic could affect them when any regular fodder might be able to use magic in several different verses. It wouldnt be very fair. I'm sure that some fruits have limitations and Kizarus and Enels limits are most likely much higher than others but we dont know the exact limit to it.
@akronawol17: many fighters can move too fast for someone to not be able to see them. The switching clothes thing is also most likely uncalcable lol
@akronawol17: No unless it's haki. the devil fruits weakness or a magic that negates intangibility like something Jack Rakan can do from Negima, then it would not stop intangibility. It's not the strength of the spear I'm worried about, it's more about the speed. Admiral levels are above 30+ mach, Kizaru being even faster than that.