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Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Zoro runs a Bleach Gauntlet

@taichokage: XD yeah that would be a hard one for him just because he wouldn't be fighting directly with Pica

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Zoro runs a Bleach Gauntlet

@RampagingSimian: Technically speaking, Rasenshuriken cuts at an atomic level, and that still doesn't make anything close to a nuke. Also it's not the splitting of atoms that causes explosions. Its the uranium thats atoms are split and then it releases neutrons released that continue to split the atoms over and over again, causing a massive explosion.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Zoro runs a Bleach Gauntlet

@taichokage: Well unlike Pica, Mask has to face him head on and take all the damage. Pica was just hiding within all the rock instead of facing him directly. Zoro could potentially keep slashing until there's nothing left. Cutting james til nothing is left is also an annoying problem. But using Starjun is dirty. He's way above the likes of Pica XD

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Zoro runs a Bleach Gauntlet

@RampagingSimian: Lol no that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that apparently very sharp knives in general cut at an atomic to molecular level (Someone will have to explain the difference to me lol) it's weird I know.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Meliodas vs. 23rd. Budokai Goku

@akronawol17: Well physically he might be a bit stronger, but speed wise? Goku's got him in that department.

I'd say Goku here since he doesn't start with Kamehameha unless it seems necessary. If Mel can survive the frontal assault and get him to launch a beam, then he wins.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Zoro runs a Bleach Gauntlet

@akronawol17: No seriously, that's how cutting stuff works. It's on an atomic level, no lie. I wouldn't be making this up because it sounds really bloated. Even I'm sort of hesitant on that XD

But I doubt anything would be left. Even if there was, and he started to regenerate, Zoro could quickly launch another one to finish it off.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Zoro runs a Bleach Gauntlet

@taichokage: Zoro could survive that explosion. It's high city block level +. Besides, he also took a laser to the stomach from Kizaru while weakened. She may try to suicide bomb, but Zoro's got powerful durability. Not to mention Zoro's got the distance advantage covered. He doesn't even need 1080 pound cannon for her. He could just use his 360 pound canon real fast.

@akronawol17: Pretty sure that's because Oda's not that heavy of a violent drawer. Like when Ace got a hole in his chest, it should have been wide open and totally empty lol. But by cutting standards if you were hit by a slash that big, you're basically getting cut on an atomic level over your entire body. I know that sounds really odd and bloated but that's apparently how knives and swords cut :P

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Zoro runs a Bleach Gauntlet

@taichokage: Mask poses a problem cuz of regen, but no real power over Zoro. I'd say he's only a problem with his fan guy there. There's also 1080 pound cannon which would consume him entirely and wipe him out.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14
Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » My 3 man manga team vs Ulquiorra Shiffer

@taichokage said:

Ulquiorra loses round 1. Round may be tough but I might even still say he loses. Wu Geng cuts his power, Mel reflects his blasts and Luffy moves in to beat him down, with the other 2 in tow. But the addition of Starrk might be too much for the team.

I don't know, with Mel there Stark is pretty much beat in a fight too. They would have to disable him first, but with Luffy's and Wu's speed (Who seems to be very strong :P) not to mention Mels own for that matter, they can keep up and go toe to toe with them up close. Throwing Lanza wouldn't even be an option with Mel around.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Meliodas runs a One Piece gauntlet

@Chef_Banchou: Actually just read the most recent chapter. While the clones reflect his magic, they don't reflect his physical strength. It looks like the clones would be complete fodder in comparison and would be one shotted with ease. Mel doesn't clear, he stops at Zoro in round one. And from the look of it, since it does no real amp to his durability or his magic aside from making more of himself to use full counter, I'm sticking with him stopping at Mihawk.

@Kade17: @CosmicKnight75: Nah, he stops at Mihawk round 2. Ain't gettin' past Zoro in round one. In fact even with his Sacred treasure I'm not sure. It's not that big of an amp.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Meliodas runs a One Piece gauntlet

@Chef_Banchou: Technically he's been saying several times that Mel has shown much higher DC even though the best thing he's got is that twig and hill thing. I'm just getting annoyed with all the downplaying being done to One Piece right now. I'm trying to argue this point as hard as I can so that people stop underestimating it. Sorry I don't seem to be leaving much room for argument. I'm perfectly fine with arguing.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Meliodas runs a One Piece gauntlet

@akronawol17 said:

@Jinbeifan1 said:

@akronawol17 said:

@Jinbeifan1 said:

Round 1, he stops at Zoro. Sorry guys, but as impressive as he was without his sacred treasure, he wasn't nearly that impressive. That twig cutting a hill feat is basically his only comparable feat to date.

Round 2 he makes it to Mihawk and loses. I get that people might disagree, but seeing how he's hyped at Yonkou level AND is still superior to Zoro I don't see him getting past Mihawk yet. We need to find out the nature of how he destroyed that kingdom and whether it was over time or in one shot

1. he's still physically stronger, more durable, and his cut was made with a twig/tiny blunt object. also, you seem to be forgetting him and Ban having a city level feat by simply arm wrestling. destroying a city-level barrier >>>>>>>>>>> cutting a city-sized person in two. and let's not forget that most of Zoro's best techniques will be getting Full Countered back in his face, which puts him at a severe disadvantage.

2. by hype Mihawk is island level, by hype Mel is island level with hax. Mel is still stronger, going by hype or feats. speaking of feats, Mihawk isn't beating five Meliodas' according to them. Meliodas' hill cut and Mihawk's iceberg cut were about the same, but Mel has the added advantage of hax+superior strength feats. let's not forget, he seems to be able to multiply any of his abilities, from cutting to clones.

nooooot really. He's not physically stronger, he is possibly more durable, and the whole twig thing doesn't mean squat. Know why? Because even when he got a sword, he didn't do shit in comparison to it. So basically it would be the same result until you can show me otherwise. As for his feat in the dungeon, how do you know it was city level? For one we've never seen these dragons it can supposedly hold back, at most the dragons were probably small town level by spamming fire or something. Also he did that TOGETHER with Ban. So from what you're telling me it takes the two of them to destroy a city level barrier. Also, city sized person? No. Zoro is definitely Mountain level now. Which is far better than their little dungeon trick that was rather small in the first place. And Full Counter isn't gonna do shit to Sanzen Sekai or Daizen Sekai. Mel's only option is to get close and if he does that it's all over. The only major move he could send back is 1080 pound cannon. Nd since Mel doesn't have the distance advantage or flight, he won't be needing it to cut him in two. At this point, Zoro could kill Hendricksen.

Lol you just said they're both island level by hype, that doesn't automatically make Mel stronger. Physically, Mel should be a little bit below Mihawk but like you said his hax compensates for that. Even if Mel made five of himself it takes a casual swing to wipe them all out, even without sending out a sword slash like he did against WB. By feats he's superior, but that's because he's also the main protagonist of the series lol by Hype I'm going with Mihawk.

1. the feat is city level because it was stated the barrier could contain ten town busting dragons. even if you lowballed it, and said they could only townbust over time, then it'd still be city level because they couldn't break the barrir regardless. i'm not sure about you, but if a barrier could contain ten town busters, it'd be safe to say it's city level. also, so what if Ban helped? they literally showed zero effort at all. they basically had a pleasent conversation while werecking a giant dungeon via arm wrestling. are you saying that little game they played couldn't be replicated by Mel casually? because if so, that's ridiculous. he also cracked Bayzel rock in two with a single punch, another casual feat abov all but Luffy's best.

as for Zoro's feat, that was one of his best techniques that was far from casual. also, it was a CUT, and Pica is CITY SIZED, not mountain. even if he was mountain sized, the feat was still not mountain level. i've said it before, and i'll say it again, cutting something in two is not a DC feat. not that it matters, any wide-range DC feat Zoro uses (and that does include the others, not just 1080 PC) are compressed aur slashes, and therefore are getting sent right back in Zoro's face weather you say so or not. Mel's strength is no "little trick" by the way, it literally craps on any and all strength feats Zoro or Luffy have ever shown other then EGG. and if it does come down to a close-quarters fight, then Zoro us the dead one, not Mel. me, and several others, have proven that Mel is much stronger, has better DC, and is more hax then any Strawhat. he'd tear Zoro a new one in short or long range, and could tank any of his attacks to save for a sweet little Revenge Counter if things go sour later in the gauntlet.

by the way, you.... seriously don't think Zoro can beat Hendy, do you? it took most of the Sins combined power, with extreme difficulty, just to beat him. your basically saying Zoro could solo the Sins, and that is beyond laughable.

2. now for this part. Mihawk is most defenitly not oneshotting one Meliodas, so he can't oneshot five either. as for being "slightly weaker" physically, read the above. by the way, being a top tier in OP=/=being physically strong. Mihawk's true power lies behind his skill, not strength.

They were putting all their strength into arm wrestling. That means it's a rather hard effort, but they were also acting casual because they were talking to each other. All that you can say is that combined they have city level strength. Outside of that, you have no proof that alone they could have taken down the barrier. And you keep saying town busting but I still have no recollection of those dragons on panel actually destroying a town. Which was bayzel rock, anyway? You'll have to remind me on that one.

Fine, we'll say he is high city level. Either way, it's more impressive than anything Mel has shown. And while it is one of his best moves, it is rather casually. You can only say that it's not casual if he was tired afterwards and only did it ONCE. He did it several times. Without problem. All he really has to do is embue his hands and swords in armament haki. With that, it's more than easy enough to slash someone like Mel in half. Also lol no. Daizen and Sanzen Sekai are direct slashes to the body that are pure melee. He showed that when he slashed the real Pica after the statue. Mel can't send that back, and you have no evidence that he could send it back. Whether you disregard anything I say means nothing, because it has to be an energy or flying attack. Nothing else. Hes got stronger hax, comparable speed but outside of that... no. No greater DC and no greater Strength feats that I've seen. So Mel loses without that sacred treasure of his.

Also, I said Zoro could kill Hendy at this point, doesn't exactly mean he could beat him (debatable, but that's a fight for another time). Zoro has undeniably shown MUCH higher power than any of the sins. None of them, or the Knights, showed anything equal to Daizen Sekai. You can't even argue on that point. Cutting a hill in half was cute in comparison. And lastly, on that stupid arm wrestling feat, there's not even a way to calc that into a fight, and as I said before he did it with Ban. So alone he doesn't have that kind of power.

I doubt Mels clones are anywhere near as powerful as he is. At most, I think the main point of them is to make multiple reversals. I don't think that they actually fight. But we'll see. We've yet to see them do much aside from that reversal. Also, I highly doubt that. He's called the strongest swordsman in the world. That means he's amazingly powerful. Not to mention he taught Zoro everything about Armament Haki, which we have yet to even SEE him use. With it I'm pretty sure he'd one shot if he landed a blow which is highly possible.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » 3 DISCIPLES vs. JIN MO-RI, DAEMON SPADE & ICHIBEI

Ichibei should be removed, he's basically useless here. Speed may be equal in round 1, but any of the 3 have relativistic speed with attacks as well. Can't speak for the other two though :P

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Meliodas runs a One Piece gauntlet

@akronawol17 said:

@Jinbeifan1 said:

Round 1, he stops at Zoro. Sorry guys, but as impressive as he was without his sacred treasure, he wasn't nearly that impressive. That twig cutting a hill feat is basically his only comparable feat to date.

Round 2 he makes it to Mihawk and loses. I get that people might disagree, but seeing how he's hyped at Yonkou level AND is still superior to Zoro I don't see him getting past Mihawk yet. We need to find out the nature of how he destroyed that kingdom and whether it was over time or in one shot

1. he's still physically stronger, more durable, and his cut was made with a twig/tiny blunt object. also, you seem to be forgetting him and Ban having a city level feat by simply arm wrestling. destroying a city-level barrier >>>>>>>>>>> cutting a city-sized person in two. and let's not forget that most of Zoro's best techniques will be getting Full Countered back in his face, which puts him at a severe disadvantage.

2. by hype Mihawk is island level, by hype Mel is island level with hax. Mel is still stronger, going by hype or feats. speaking of feats, Mihawk isn't beating five Meliodas' according to them. Meliodas' hill cut and Mihawk's iceberg cut were about the same, but Mel has the added advantage of hax+superior strength feats. let's not forget, he seems to be able to multiply any of his abilities, from cutting to clones.

nooooot really. He's not physically stronger, he is possibly more durable, and the whole twig thing doesn't mean squat. Know why? Because even when he got a sword, he didn't do shit in comparison to it. So basically it would be the same result until you can show me otherwise. As for his feat in the dungeon, how do you know it was city level? For one we've never seen these dragons it can supposedly hold back, at most the dragons were probably small town level by spamming fire or something. Also he did that TOGETHER with Ban. So from what you're telling me it takes the two of them to destroy a city level barrier. Also, city sized person? No. Zoro is definitely Mountain level now. Which is far better than their little dungeon trick that was rather small in the first place. And Full Counter isn't gonna do shit to Sanzen Sekai or Daizen Sekai. Mel's only option is to get close and if he does that it's all over. The only major move he could send back is 1080 pound cannon. Nd since Mel doesn't have the distance advantage or flight, he won't be needing it to cut him in two. At this point, Zoro could kill Hendricksen.

Lol you just said they're both island level by hype, that doesn't automatically make Mel stronger. Physically, Mel should be a little bit below Mihawk but like you said his hax compensates for that. Even if Mel made five of himself it takes a casual swing to wipe them all out, even without sending out a sword slash like he did against WB. By feats he's superior, but that's because he's also the main protagonist of the series lol by Hype I'm going with Mihawk.

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Meliodas runs a One Piece gauntlet

Round 1, he stops at Zoro. Sorry guys, but as impressive as he was without his sacred treasure, he wasn't nearly that impressive. That twig cutting a hill feat is basically his only comparable feat to date.

Round 2 he makes it to Mihawk and loses. I get that people might disagree, but seeing how he's hyped at Yonkou level AND is still superior to Zoro I don't see him getting past Mihawk yet. We need to find out the nature of how he destroyed that kingdom and whether it was over time or in one shot

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » SSJ4 Gogeta vs Trion Juggernaut

@taichokage said:

There is no need to wait it out. This version of Juggernaut hijacked the power of Cytorrak. He wins effortlessly.

to think Juggy used to be so cool lol

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Four Heavenly Kings(Enbu) VS Final Frieza

@RampagingSimian: Sunny's hair is basically an Oushoku bansan: it eats all matter, albeit slowly but it doesn't matter. It's a strong hax that bypasses durability by wiping what it touches. Obviously unlike Ichiryuu's or Midora's it's slower when it eats, but his will be at that level later I believe

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Wu Geng vs Monkey D. Luffy

@Chef_Banchou: lol it's alright I know you werent :P this would actually be a great challenge for Ban from SDS though, you should make that fight

Post by Jinbeifan1 (4,121 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Battles » Zekka runs a Four Beast limb gauntlet

@RampagingSimian: I think the point is that they would both die (at least that's what I gather from it being called a suicide attack lol)

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