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Battles » Sabo vs Monster Trio

@luthluth: Saying that Sanji is VA level is a bit vague IMO. There are varying levels of VAs, some are weak while others are high Shichibukai - borderline admiral level, Garp for instance was technically a VA, yet he was a top tier. I think putting Sanji as low Shichibukai level would be a more accurate gauge of him.

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Battles » Ichigo vs Yusuke

@flashback180: I was saying that Current Ichigo is the only one that can put up a fight, Arrancar Ichigo would get raped by Chapter Black Yusuke, let alone EoS.

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General Discussion » Best Anime/ Manga Teams/ Organizations Voting Tourney Nominations

Generation of Miracle - (Kuroko no Basket)

Seirin High - (Kuroko no Basket)

Devilbats - (Eyeshield 21)

Original team Avatar - (Avatar)

Mustang's unit - (FMAB)

Hunter Organization - (HxH)

Zodiac - (HxH)

Yorozuya Gin-Chan - (Gintama)

Seven Seas Alliance - (Magi) just the generals not the countries themselves

Team 7 - (Naruto)

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Battles » Ichigo vs Yusuke

@flashback180: Current Ichigo's the only one that could make this a fight, and it's rooted in hype alone.

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Battles » Bartholomew Kuma VS Monster Trio (Single/ All 3)

M3 win, the Pacifista are fodder and will be destroyed fast. Any of the Timeskip M3 could likely give Kuma some trouble by themselves, all three of them together take him out, this is assuming that he doesn't just BFR them again.

One on one however, Kuma should still win with mid-high difficulty.

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Battles » Sabo vs Monster Trio

  • Serious but not bloodlusted
  • start 100 meters from eachother

Round 1. Luffy alone

Round 2. Sanji and Zoro

Round 3. Luffy and Zoro

Round 4. M3

Setting: Little Garden

Little Garden
Little Garden
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Battles » Kenpachi & Mount Turtle vs Madara & Obito

Mounturtle tanked a continental attack without a scratch, Susanno and meteorites aren't doing much damage here if at all. Mounturtle on the other hand is very capable of oneshoting team 2, whether by nukes or physical strength.

No matter which way this fight goes, the Himalayas lose

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Battles » Toriko vs Akira Kongou

@taichokage: Has anything changed now?

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Battles » Meruem Vs Luffy

@othus12: It's faster than sound actually, If it were only sound speed, it'd really destroy the speed scale of the series seeing as how much slower characters are capable of easily dodging machine gun fire and outpacing bullets. So I'd consider it an outlier really.

Still agree that Luffy wins though

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Battles » Broly vs Cell vs Bojack vs Dabura

Worst comes to worst, they BFR him into the sun, if Gohan, Goten and Trunks could do it to a stronger Broly, then the team compromised entire of SSj2 tier fighters should easily be able to replicate it.

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Battles » Meruem Vs Luffy

@Low:

I generally hate HxH. XD Its way too dark for my taste. Everything else that you said are speculation. I was not comparing tech of HxH and OP btw. All I said was, OPverse bullet designs and the guns themselves are of an older and slower / less potent design. While on the other hand, the policemen were using modern day guns, which are much more lethal (they certainly wont bounce off of Luffy's body) and fast.

Well to each their own, I actually like HxH, sure the pacing and narrative of this last arc seemed to drag but Gon vs Pitou, Netero vs the King, and Meruem's death made up for it IMHO.

Virutally none of my previous argument was speculation (if there is point it out), once again there is no evidence that the bullet is slower just because of it's shape, they aren't the normal flintlocks. Hody Jones is capable of throwing normal water far faster than any bullet to the point where it can destroy small cliffs, yet Luffy at near point blank easily dodges without even giving it a thought.

Merume > Netero > Killua's father guy > Pitou > Pouf > Killua > the other guard guy > Cheetu in terms of speed.

Blitzing comparison is irrelevant without actual speed feats, keep in mind that it took the King 5 mins to get back to the palace, that is at most a couple kms away.

Anyway point being, very early on, in HxH there's a guy with faster than the speed of sound attacks: Bonolenov, Cheetu is faster than guys at that level of Phantom Troupe. Guys like Pitou are massively hypersonic, heck Killua has lightning speed.

No one in HxH is massively hypersonic, sorry to disappoint, Killua's god speed only brings his reactions to lightning speed, we cannot say for sure whether or not Silvia is faster than Killua in Godspeed as Illumni (Killua's older brother) couldn't keep up. Keep in mind that Luffy also has precog to his advantage, even if the King were faster, he isn't getting a hit in easily.

I'd put Cheetu at CP9 pirate level. Blueno is not worth mentioning. By the time he starts picking up speed, Cheetu would've eaten him in a bloodlusted state of mind.

Blueno would blitz Cheetu, I doubt that the Ant could even harm him TBH, even Sanji, who was capable of kick with 100+ ton force with unnamed kicks pre skip, had trouble harming him.

The animation really isn't a good indication of speed but still I disprove of your videos XD, they don't do Luffy justice (I don't expect you to watch the whole fight just skip to 10:30)

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Battles » Meruem Vs Luffy

@Low:

One Piece bullets are also ridiculously slower than the modern bullets of HxH. Cheetu did not just dodge the bullet there. It was a point blank evasion. He also took a couple of fingers and appeared behind them.

Actually there is no proof of this, they appear to be vairants of flintlocks with rounded bullets, yet they have displayed other qualities that contradict this, such as repeated-automatic fire, cannon fire can level Islands, Franky has machine guns, missiles, and even lasers. If anything I'd say that some of the weaponry is superior to HxH (aside from Nukes ofc)

Theres a third point to be considered here.
Killua is faster than Cheetu, so is his father, Netero, Pouf (butterfly) and Pitou (cat) and even base (pre 4 gaurds power) Meruem.

These characters are faster than Cheetu, so what? Cheetu would be outright blitzed by Cp9 members, and current Luffy could easily solo their entire squad now.

Meruem gets the plus point here, speedwise, unless Luffy has shown something relative to lightspeed. As far as I know, he was humiliated by a very casual Kizaru.

Meruem is no where near lightspeed, Kizaru would humiliate and blitz him as well, so kind of mute point.

I mean here's Pitou who blitzed Kite from a few kilometers away in no more than 1 or 2 seconds.

The distance was a maximum of 2km, still impressive, OP has had similar feats displayed by Zoro (sorry can't post pictures atm, will later though).

I find it kinda funny how you changed your opinion of their speed once the animations of them came out, you once said that pre skip Lee would blitz Netero. lol

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Battles » Meruem Vs Luffy

@Low: Cheetu is actually one of the fastest in the verse and was never tagged easily by Morel, far below the likes of the Royal guard but fast enough to where could blitz Knuckle and Morel simultaneously without getting hit.

Dodging a bullet isn't impressive in OP, Luffy's been doing it since East Blue, and there are many fodder in the the verse that could replicate the feat. Luffy may not have dodged anything lightspeed but his reactions, even before the skip, where good enough to blitz people who can casually break the sound barrier and dodge Nami's lightning while in G2. After the skip, his speed and reactions are augmented further with precog and his base is faster than his G2 was preskip.

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Battles » Broly vs Cell vs Bojack vs Dabura

@Dream: Fair enough, still Vegeta's comment suggested that Cell was getting the better of Goku

and it seems this is where Cell lost the majority of his power, while Goku lost his simply keeping up.

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Battles » Yuma Kuga (World Trigger) vs Homunculus (FMAB)

@flashback180: Changed OP to be more fair.

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Battles » Meruem Vs Luffy

Meruem holds the advantage in DC, mobility, intelligence, and reactions (maybe?) whilst Luffy holds an advantage in physical strength, speed, and blunt durability + he possesses precognition.

Under certain circumstances either can argued for, IC I'd argue that Meruem's far superior intellect would edge him the win, but in this scenario I see bloodlusted Luffy winning, he would abuse both gears simultaneously, something he is usually reluctant to do because of strain, and an Elephant Gatling Gun with Gear 2 speed and Armament Haki = dead Ant King.

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Battles » Broly vs Cell vs Bojack vs Dabura

@Dream:

Recall that the fight depleted enough of Cell's ki reserves where Goku gave him a Senzu Bean before fighting Gohan so he could be at full strength. I wouldn't necessarily say Cell was holding back in his fight with Goku.

Goku did indeed exhaust a portion of Cell's power, but I'd hardly say that the fight was a stalemate

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Battles » Yuma Kuga (World Trigger) vs Homunculus (FMAB)

The Homunculus - The Seven Deadly Sins
The Homunculus - The Seven Deadly Sins

one on one, who does he beat who does he lose to?

Bloodlusted

Father before absorbing the Truth

  • R1. Normal Trigger
  • R2. Black Trigger
  • R3. Black Trigger: All at once, how many does he take out?

Setting: Z city

This is just to gauge Yuma

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Battles » Broly vs Cell vs Bojack vs Dabura

@Dream: Unless the fight was different in the manga, PC was above MSSJ Goku by a decent margin. Only after Gohan transformed did Cell reveal how much power he was holding back.

@IndridCold: I don't think Bojacks that close to SPC IMO, Cell was giving SSj 2 Gohan trouble (albeit Gohan was injured) whilst Bojack had a hole punched straight through by Gohan's first punch

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