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Battles » Sakura vs Chad

@DeathHero61: At least she can heal people, Chads just one of Ichigo's fodder friends.

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Battles » Kratos vs Gedo Mazo

This match really isn't much different than Kratos vs an other titan, I think we all know how those turned out.

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Battles » HASHIRAMA&TOBIRAMA VS SHIKI&Z(ONE PIECE)

@Dyep: You're a hell bent on OP winning huh? Though I still disagree with your assessment for various reasons, I can at least relate to that as I definitely prefer the series over Naruto but it makes one wonder why you made this match with a clear winner in mind.

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Battles » Komatsu vs Tommyrod

@King_Khan: Nah he doesn't need to have a predatory mentality, all he needs to do is view every enemy as food he needs to cook. Hmm ... I wonder what kind of dish he'd make out of Tommy rod.

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Battles » One Punch Man VS DB

@cosmicdude: He blitzes and kills them all, Vegeta got his tail cut Yajirobe and was going to be killed by Krillin holding a normal sword so durability shouldn't be a problem

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Battles » Komatsu vs Tommyrod

Forget Ice Hell, Komatsu can probably cut up his Cooking festival form as well when in his awakened state.

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Battles » HASHIRAMA&TOBIRAMA VS SHIKI&Z(ONE PIECE)

@Dyep:

He's dwarfing mountains bro, the length of one just of those arms is ridiculous

@Dyep said:

Shiki can levitate the Whole Konoha. It's surely probable. He can levitate islands.

Your missing the point, I already said he could lift it

He isn't getting through this barrage unscathed and every single punch the Buddha is throwing would be lethal to him, not to mention that the statue can reduce Konoha to nothing even if Shiki lifts it, that's why it's improbable, this is ignoring Tobirama's FTG shadow clones and various other techniques allowing him to intervene in both fights.

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Battles » HASHIRAMA&TOBIRAMA VS SHIKI&Z(ONE PIECE)

@Dyep: Because he would likely still be able to use it's limb, given the sheer scale of the statue he'd have to put it hundreds of meters in the air before being outside it's range, that's why.

Shiki will levitate the Whole Konoha with the Buddha and drops into them

It's possible but improbable given the opposition, let's leave it at that

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Battles » CHIMERA ANTS VS. FIVE KAGES

The Ants, mainly because of post nuke Meruem and the Royal Guard

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Battles » HASHIRAMA&TOBIRAMA VS SHIKI&Z(ONE PIECE)

@Dyep:

Hashi couldn't control over his own constructs when Shiki touched it. He has the ability of Fuwa Fuwa no Mi a Paramecia type Devil Fruit which allows him to make almost anything he touches levitate, and also make surrounding non-living matter levitate once he has come in contact with it. Shiki states that once he makes something float it will stay that way until he himself undoes it or he loses consciousness. He has been shown to make several Marine vessels and even vast island areas float.

I know of Shiki's abilities, no need to reiterate them, but levitating something ≠ controlling it, he could levitate the statue, yes, but Hashi could still use it to attack at will.

He seems to have mastered the use of this fruit, as he has shown a variety of skills which manipulates the surrounding non-living environment in complicated ways, even manipulating it from its simplest components, such as earth's fragments and snow flakes being used to build up gigantic, elaborate structures that are then used to attack for a variety of purposes.

Shiki can also create constructs from his fruit but he's never manipulated something on the scale of the Buddha in the way you are envisioning (controlling the statue), unless you mean he will simply levitate it and drop it which he should be capable of, while the brothers should easily be able to avoid it.

When attacking, Shiki uses the surrounding environment against his enemies, shaping earth or snow into giant lion heads and launching them towards his foes, or even making water float to drown his opponents in i

All things that can be easily dealt with by the brothers, the surrounding area in this case is Konoha, the Buddha is very capable of wiping the entire area off the map.

Let me restate my stance, it is not impossible for Shiki and Z to win, I just see it in the brother's favor more times than not.

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@ImDictatorBowDown: The thing is Hashirama could still manipulate it, but he couldn't negate Shiki levitating it, which is something Hashirama himself cannot do based on showings. Nevertheless, I would side with the brothers Hashirama's scale could be overcome but not combined with his brother's warping.

I didn't mean to imply that Shiki couldn't lift it if he made contact with it, I just saw it as rather pointless seeing as he'd have trouble touching it without getting attacked and Hashi would still have control over it in the end.

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Battles » HASHIRAMA&TOBIRAMA VS SHIKI&Z(ONE PIECE)

@Dyep:

Favor to Shiki, He is fast so he can touch it, when the Buddha pummels him

Yeah he could touch the statue when he's getting hit, problem it would only take a few hits from the Buddha to kill him in his old age, Shiki could keep up with G2 Luffy to some extent but in character he is shown to take attacks head on anyway.

Then he can control it and destroy the brothers.

Unlikely, Hashi should have far better control over his own constructs, even if it is affected by Shiki's ability.

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Battles » HASHIRAMA&TOBIRAMA VS SHIKI&Z(ONE PIECE)

@Dyep: It changes nothing, he still gets pummeled by the Buddha hands

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Battles » SHIKI VS SARUTOBI

@takashichea: I wasn't bashing them or anything but I'll stop

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Battles » SHIKI VS SARUTOBI

@Zerogodlike: Well at least it isn't like it was when MvC started coming in to debate for Goku during the Toriko vs DBZ threads specifically Ichiryuu and SSj3 Goku.

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Battles » nami vs tenten

Nami also beat Kalifa who could likely solo the entire pre TS Konoha 11 by herself.

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Battles » Sakura vs Chad

Chad is more useless AND more powerful, it's a Double Wammy!

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Battles » SHIKI VS SARUTOBI

@GamaSennin: Listing someones abilities isn't a feat, none of the ones mentioned put him above even a mid tier OP character.

Prime Hiruzen is featless, but I highly HIGHLY doubt he is touching anywhere near Naruto's current Top tiers. Not to mention that this would be Prime Shiki too, meaning he'd be Island level via hype

You really seem to down play OP characters when you compare them to Naruto, Naruto's current top tiers do out power OP's top tiers, that's true, however take pretty much any high tier Naruto character and place him/her against a high tier OP character, and the result is usually OP winning.

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Battles » HASHIRAMA&TOBIRAMA VS SHIKI&Z(ONE PIECE)

@waybig1010101: It'd place him at Island level by hype. There's a lot of hype to suggest this ex. Ancient weapons stated to oneshot islands, Chinjao "continent split" overpowered by Garp's fist, Aokiji and Akainu permanently changing an Island's climate as a side effect of their bout, Big Mam's subordinates burning down countries by themselves, ext... so it is definitely possible.

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Battles » Kat (Gravity Rush) vs Kakine Teitoku (Pre-Dark Matter Construct)

She's more durable but he seems hax as hell

he could take the combined military might of the world single-handedly (Academy City included) and win

I'd go with him based on that statement alone, full powered Kat had trouble fighting just Yunica

but I really can't make any concrete statements as I don't know Kakine

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