Raditz wins this ... even if Broly could galaxy bust with extreme ease, he would spend the rest of his life trying to put a dent in this number. (This is assuming that they don't collapse into a singularity)
The shockwave created by Saitama leaping off the moon suggests continental potency, or at the very least high country (note he did this casually anyway).
the jump from continent lvl to planet lvl is ridiculously huge. nothing in OPM comes even remotely close to that power.
I never said it was a planet level attack, I said lifewiping. You seem to have been referring to the attack's name while I was referring to Boro's statement of wiping out the "planet's surface." Destroying the crust is still within range for continental characters. I agree that OPM hasn't shown to be planetary level, though I do believe it will eventually.
@Endless_Khaos: Given the context that Saitama just recently pulled off a continent level feat at sub-relativistic speeds CASUALLY and that he this attack seriously, I actually have zero problem believing these statements even without the actual destruction shown.
@Low: Actually it depends on whether Kuma has his mind or not. His ability to effectively use his ability seemed to drop after he became a full android shown when he took Ivankov's attacks rather than dodging them.
@taichokage: Well I was actually referring to Kuzan, Kizaru, and Akainu prior to becoming admiral's since all 3 were had to attain that level to advance we could assume that VA's reach said level. Smoker will undoubtedly reach Admiral level as a VA, or maybe even Coby for that matter in the future.
@luthluth: Saying that Sanji is VA level is a bit vague IMO. There are varying levels of VAs, some are weak while others are high Shichibukai - borderline admiral level, Garp for instance was technically a VA, yet he was a top tier. I think putting Sanji as low Shichibukai level would be a more accurate gauge of him.
M3 win, the Pacifista are fodder and will be destroyed fast. Any of the Timeskip M3 could likely give Kuma some trouble by themselves, all three of them together take him out, this is assuming that he doesn't just BFR them again.
One on one however, Kuma should still win with mid-high difficulty.
Mounturtle tanked a continental attack without a scratch, Susanno and meteorites aren't doing much damage here if at all. Mounturtle on the other hand is very capable of oneshoting team 2, whether by nukes or physical strength.
No matter which way this fight goes, the Himalayas lose
@othus12: It's faster than sound actually, If it were only sound speed, it'd really destroy the speed scale of the series seeing as how much slower characters are capable of easily dodging machine gun fire and outpacing bullets. So I'd consider it an outlier really.
Worst comes to worst, they BFR him into the sun, if Gohan, Goten and Trunks could do it to a stronger Broly, then the team compromised entire of SSj2 tier fighters should easily be able to replicate it.
I generally hate HxH. XD Its way too dark for my taste. Everything else that you said are speculation. I was not comparing tech of HxH and OP btw. All I said was, OPverse bullet designs and the guns themselves are of an older and slower / less potent design. While on the other hand, the policemen were using modern day guns, which are much more lethal (they certainly wont bounce off of Luffy's body) and fast.
Well to each their own, I actually like HxH, sure the pacing and narrative of this last arc seemed to drag but Gon vs Pitou, Netero vs the King, and Meruem's death made up for it IMHO.
Virutally none of my previous argument was speculation (if there is point it out), once again there is no evidence that the bullet is slower just because of it's shape, they aren't the normal flintlocks. Hody Jones is capable of throwing normal water far faster than any bullet to the point where it can destroy small cliffs, yet Luffy at near point blank easily dodges without even giving it a thought.
Merume > Netero > Killua's father guy > Pitou > Pouf > Killua > the other guard guy > Cheetu in terms of speed.
Blitzing comparison is irrelevant without actual speed feats, keep in mind that it took the King 5 mins to get back to the palace, that is at most a couple kms away.
Anyway point being, very early on, in HxH there's a guy with faster than the speed of sound attacks: Bonolenov, Cheetu is faster than guys at that level of Phantom Troupe. Guys like Pitou are massively hypersonic, heck Killua has lightning speed.
No one in HxH is massively hypersonic, sorry to disappoint, Killua's god speed only brings his reactions to lightning speed, we cannot say for sure whether or not Silvia is faster than Killua in Godspeed as Illumni (Killua's older brother) couldn't keep up. Keep in mind that Luffy also has precog to his advantage, even if the King were faster, he isn't getting a hit in easily.
I'd put Cheetu at CP9 pirate level. Blueno is not worth mentioning. By the time he starts picking up speed, Cheetu would've eaten him in a bloodlusted state of mind.
Blueno would blitz Cheetu, I doubt that the Ant could even harm him TBH, even Sanji, who was capable of kick with 100+ ton force with unnamed kicks pre skip, had trouble harming him.
The animation really isn't a good indication of speed but still I disprove of your videos XD, they don't do Luffy justice (I don't expect you to watch the whole fight just skip to 10:30)
One Piece bullets are also ridiculously slower than the modern bullets of HxH. Cheetu did not just dodge the bullet there. It was a point blank evasion. He also took a couple of fingers and appeared behind them.
Actually there is no proof of this, they appear to be vairants of flintlocks with rounded bullets, yet they have displayed other qualities that contradict this, such as repeated-automatic fire, cannon fire can level Islands, Franky has machine guns, missiles, and even lasers. If anything I'd say that some of the weaponry is superior to HxH (aside from Nukes ofc)
Theres a third point to be considered here. Killua is faster than Cheetu, so is his father, Netero, Pouf (butterfly) and Pitou (cat) and even base (pre 4 gaurds power) Meruem.
These characters are faster than Cheetu, so what? Cheetu would be outright blitzed by Cp9 members, and current Luffy could easily solo their entire squad now.
Meruem gets the plus point here, speedwise, unless Luffy has shown something relative to lightspeed. As far as I know, he was humiliated by a very casual Kizaru.
Meruem is no where near lightspeed, Kizaru would humiliate and blitz him as well, so kind of mute point.
I mean here's Pitou who blitzed Kite from a few kilometers away in no more than 1 or 2 seconds.
The distance was a maximum of 2km, still impressive, OP has had similar feats displayed by Zoro (sorry can't post pictures atm, will later though).
I find it kinda funny how you changed your opinion of their speed once the animations of them came out, you once said that pre skip Lee would blitz Netero. lol