Hellos (Level 11)

Shonen and Jobs have trolled this place hard while I've been away. Sorry about that folks. And oh yeah, Jobs is Spike and Spike is Hitsu - who would have thunk?
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Battles » Sasuke vs Sasori

How is this a remotely fair fight?

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Battles » Destructor Asura vs Tengen Toppa Gurren Laggan

@FalconC2 said:

Galaxies in that fight against the Anti Spiral acted nothing like galaxies and were about as large as the Earth was.

Not from what I saw. I do remember the Anti-Spiral opening up a portal to view the Earth but I don't recall it be directly next to the galaxies to scale for size.

Plus, Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann was already dwarfing planets, and planets were smaller in size by comparison to it when the Anti-Spiral ships started throwing them at SGGL IIRC. TTGL is much larger than SGGL.

Said portal was appearing to be quite a distance from Earth to begin with:

The fact the rocky planet the Anti Spirals had sporting on their head suggests their scale isn't anywhere close to spanning galaxies.

It wasn't that much larger given that last final attack, maybe 2-4 times larger at best.

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Battles » Buffy the Vampire Slayer vs Hollow Ichigo

Didn't Buffy lose those powers a while ago?

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Battles » Spider-Man vs Luffy

@SpeedForceSpider said:

The folks on comicvine didn't see this as spite or anything. This is disappointing see all these Luffy fanboys.

The folks on Comicvine clearly don't know what they were talking about. This is a horrid mismatch, Spiderman totally takes this and proceeds to destroy creation with his witty humor.

On a more serious note, unless Luffy is a lot weaker than he's been sold off as - Spiderman gets torn in half.

Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Thanos vs Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann

When did Gurren Lagann become the new DBZ? People are running around here with baseless accusations of how each of those spiral galaxies are as large as the Milky Way despite everything about that situation suggests they are barely larger than the Earth was if not smaller. From the Anti Spiral's home (rocky) planet being on said mech's heads, to the Earth from a distance taking up a large portion of said generic galaxy - to the damn final Simon attack that shows the actual sizes of said mechs in comparison.

Look at Lordgenome's final stand at the end to even further bust this nonsense about a multi galaxy sized mech.

I could care less if Gainax is saying differently when everything about that fight says said mech is only at best a few rocky planets in size - no where near as large as gas giant, star or galaxy.

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Battles » Destructor Asura vs Tengen Toppa Gurren Laggan

@FalconC2 said:

Except there's nothing contradicting it (that I'm aware of). The galaxy size seems pretty consistent in that fight. Your "hyper-dimension is smaller or metaphysical theory" is also pure speculation with nothing to back it up. Has it been stated to be smaller or some such? No.

Galaxies in that fight against the Anti Spiral acted nothing like galaxies and were about as large as the Earth was.

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Battles » Destructor Asura vs Tengen Toppa Gurren Laggan

Asura without much doubt. Not just because he kills God, who was reality warping up the wazoo - but on simple scale Asura seemed that much larger and easily plowing through objects much larger than said giant mech was.

Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Vegeta vs Beta Ray Bill

Vegeta stomps; Bill in the planet Hulk film did a lot of nothing outside get his face pummeled by the Hulk.

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Battles » Master Roshi vs Yusuke

I love how the guy who can't tank a grenade is being used as a benchmark for how fast Roshi is, by throwing things far no less. Toa's insane log / pillar tossing strength / speed is non-existent in actual fights. I'm hard pressed to believe Roshi can even hurt Yusuke without resorting to the Kamehameha's higher blasting power.

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Battles » Goku VS Binary

@DBZ_universe said:

Just curious... how much energy can Binary absorb? does she have a limit or not limit to it?

I'd imagine however much plot says she can at the time. I'm a bit divided on this thread - though that's partly because I haven't read much with Binary.

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Battles » Mikaboshi vs. Scathan

@taichokage said:

There's no anime character here. There must be or it isn't allowed. For the actual battle, I think Mikaboshi. I'm not sure though. I don't know Scathan very well.

Scathan only had one appearance and that was muzzling a mutant that would be God. Quite honestly, bar the Tribunal / Eternity allowing him to be there - I don't think he was anymore powerful than the average Celestial. Mikaboshi on the other hand destroyed most of the multiverse / absorbed it into him.

Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Casshern vs Birdy

Casshern from what I've seen would eviscerate Birdy.

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Battles » Lucifer and Michael ( Supernatural) vs Goku

Just a few things to point out:

  • Like the Leviathan - bar select items you can't kill archangels conventionally. You can vaporize the host, but the angels more or less seem capable of fixing it (case and point, see Anna).
  • Lucifer wasn't weak to the colt - it did put his host body down for a moment before he got up says "ouch" and healed.

The main issues with the thread:

Goku has way more potent destruction potential. Main problem is:

  • Lower tier angels burn people's eyes out when they get a glimpse of them(Season 4 Ep 1). Michael in his true form was frying people's brains simply appearing to Zachariah in his true visage from heaven(season 5 ep 18).
  • Angels can be completely invisible (Season 6 Ep 20). Castiel more or less spends a good part of the episode floating around Dean and Sam watching them without any idea from either of them he was there the entire time.
  • Seraphs can control time (season 6 - episode 17), Castiel stops it right before Atropos (Fate) crushes Dean and Same. Given Archangels like Raphael were clearly stronger than Castiel, Michael and Lucifer who are incredibly more powerful than Raphael would likely be capable of the same (even though neither have bothered playing with time).

Assuming the Angels don't kill themselves, all they have to do is flash Goku with their true forms and he'll die outright from simply looking at them. Done.

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Battles » Super Kami Guru vs Lord Popo (TFS Version)

Popo is sadistic, but Guru is manipulating his people to commit genocide against the ablino namakians, while actually causing great harm to them aswell.

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Battles » Asura vs. the Kishin

Asura stomps infinitely hard. The guy was pounding away planetary sized opponents from the start of the game. By the end of it he's actually gotten more powerful(at least before the DLC).

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Battles » Darsh & Uriel vs. Thor OF & Silver Surfer

Full Potential Thor with the Odinforce was RKT, which was quite a heavy weight indeed.

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Battles » Thor VS Gogeta SSJ4

@DBZ_universe said:

@Hellos: Gogeta never did anything close to Solar system busting is correct.... but he owned a being that could of destroy the universe.... Gogeta was not even close to serious when he fought Yi Xing Long... no one knows his true powers...

Omega Shenron's negative karma ball wasn't even under his own power. It's all the naughty things the people of Earth did.

Cool, I don't care about the speculation train that is GT's Gogeta. Thor is going to ruin him based off the actual showings of power Gogeta displayed.

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Battles » Thor VS Gogeta SSJ4

@eddz99 said:

@Hellos: Destructo disk ( if enough power ) Can cut everything and anything.

No it doesn't, there is honestly a fleet of characters it shouldn't phase. Hyperbole doesn't make it able to cut Thor.

Hell Gogeta wouldn't even need a destructo disk.. He just sends a blast that is 2x more powerful than universal genkidama (Which haven't exploded so we don't know it's destruction) and kill thor in an instant (Yes gogeta can travel faster than light) http://9gag.com/gag/3971890

Crack is one hell of a drug.

Take note of this in the link "Gotenks took a nap so it's not clear if it was 29 minutes, but it's the least he could get which is far too slower than lightspeed. Also if you're trying to take a real deep thing about Instant Transmission is just lightspeed, Goku should not be travelling planets to planets from different galaxies in an instant since even light Reaches Earth from the Sun in minutes. But that's just me."

A lot of things involving distance in the DBU is complete nonsense, regardless if we are talking teleportation Thor did the exact same thing in the Avengers Annual when he teleported a group of villains antagonizing him into a stadium, then teleported everyone with him to beat the tar out of them. Teleportation however is not speed.

And mjonir's speed has nothing to do with it.. He dodges punches in the speed of light that is very near to him ( less than one meter ) So.. he can feel the mjonir's power coming at him and dodge it.
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_3
SSJ3 = SSJ2 x4
Shenron's Karma ball
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Negative_Karma_Ball

Considering Thor can throw his hammer faster than Gogeta thinks, no. Before Gogeta realizes what happening there is a hole in his chest. But I'm glad Gogeta fights at the speed of light, that is still much, much, much, much slower than Mjolnir moves.

Anyways, Thor stomps this argument and Gogeta, wiki entries be damned.

Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » The Doctor(Doctor Who) vs Andriods 17 & 18

@Destinyheroknight said:

The Doctor have info, he have something I think that the Androids would like to use (his TARDIS, they can move on from the Earth) Also what chapter or episode its from? I haven't saw that part?

The Androids will see a phone booth and they likely have no interest in time travel. It's one of the two that Android 18 goes shopping in, she promises to spare his life if he helps her out, 17 kills him anyways and it makes her mad.

He have the blueprints, he know how they work , I pretty sure The Doctor is as smart as Bulma. Also it a freakin year prep (FYI The Z-Fighter have the Android's blueprints)

That isn't "vague information", that is "extremely detailed information" to use against his opponents who don't have a clue who he is to begin with. But whatever. Like I said I'm done here.

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Battles » Thor VS Gogeta SSJ4

@DBZ_universe said:

@Hellos: The Z fighters didn't know Shenlong's attck could of affected the universe but the Elder Kaioshin did... And a universal Gankidama still not stronger than Gogeta... Buuhan could of destroyed the universe while angry (noncanon but lets include this) .... so how come Gogeta wont?

Because he never did anything close. But regardless I'm tired chatting with someone that already knows the answers to his own questions.

@DBZ_universe said:

@Sonata: yes many plotholes... or like when Krillin hurt Goku with a rock... (noncanon though)

For GT, it is.

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