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Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Virgo Shaka, Aries Mu and Gemini Saga VS Majin Buu.

Good old Saint Seiya. Reads like an RPG. I'd get involved but people really like to believe they're galaxy level or building level. Amazing the difference. To each their own. Maybe one day it will all be made clear whether those attack pages really were just illusions or there is credibility to the claims. Either way the Gold Saints are Light Speed and have good hax. That's all I'm sure of.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Kid goku's universal genkidama vs Whis

Taking out your subordinate with one chop isn't much to go on for a battle forum. This should probably wait a little while. Other than the obvious that Whis isn't evil and could easily repel it what can we really debate?

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Battles » Bills vs SSJ4 Goku

The glass thing as much as we've all used it to bash GT does need to take a rest. I recall a punch from ssj goku and Rilldo connecting and erasing a few blocks at one point. As well as Goku getting caught by a machine and smiling the whole time it smashes him through building after building. I still believe it was just to show how ridiculously beat up he was that he was cut by it.@taichokage said:

It's PIS. Most pooular strong characters have their moments. Why does everyone like to look only at the glass but ignore the many impressive feats that exceed Z Goku's? It doesn't even matter if he was cut by glass he outdoes Z Goku in almost every other way.

I don't know if I'd say he outdoes Z Goku in every way. His speed for GT seemed terrible the whole time and planet level destructive power was almost nonexistent for the show. Super Great Ape Baby needing at least 2 or more blasts to destroy the earth makes me wonder how powerful they were for that anime. Besides, I don't know if for this era we're really talking Z era or BOTG era DBZ. There obviously isn't going to be any stated difference but nowadays SSJ Goku could render his old SSJ3 counterpart to unconsciousness with a lovetap.Hell, he may not even need to go Super Saiyan to do that.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Dr Manhattan VS Janemba

All this talk and dragonball hate, yet still nobody has provided a reason why Dr. Manhattan is even close to Janemba's level. As I said before all that time ago Janemba wins.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Powerpuff Girls vs Team Anime

'Sigh' a missed oppurtunity to have the Powerpuff girls vs Arale and co. Not sure if I'll make it or not. Wait to see how this one goes.@GeneralVan said:

@SMXLR8: Roshi busts a moon and people call it an outlier. PPG's went back in time once and people say they are more powerful than Superman and such. Double standard don'tcha think?

Good points. You have to look at high end and low end feats to come up with a good middle ground to do these kinds of things espescially with comical characters like these. Best not to bring up DBZ too much in this. Roshi and Piccolo bust a moon it's an outlier. Frieza busts planet Vegeta it doesn't count since despite stating he held back on Namek he still can only destroy planets over time by erasing the core. Broly destroys a galaxy and it's an outlier too. Basically if a dragonball character does anything it never counts. That's the way downplayers are. Hell people still bring up 40 tons like it means anything. Most shonen manga heroes I've read about couldn't lift much and could still hit like demons possessed because of the power they have inside them. Goku is one of them.

As for the battle if what you say is true about Tetsuo he probably wins this. The PPGirls combat speed was not good by my memory and that's what really matters. Nor were they that tough. Still a fun show but toony characters like these should probably only face other toon characters. Just my last thought.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Bills vs SSJ4 Goku

To be fair to SSJ4 Goku getting cut by glass, he seemed just as surprised as we were that it happened. I think they were trying to show how beat up and weakened he was when it happened. As for the dimension shattering thing, pretty sure the dimension was already destroying itself before base goku fired a blast that opened a hole in it to escape. So, not quite as good a feat as some people are trying to make it out to be.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » LSSJ Broly Vs Kid Buu Vs SP Cell Vs Janemba Vs Frizea

Pretty sure Paragus was in movie 12 so when Goku states Janemba had the strongest power he'd ever felt that would put him above Broly. Add hax to it and Janemba wins.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Iron Fist (Marvel) vs. Mercenary Tao (Dragon Ball)

@segastorm: Turn the page back in the manga you clearly haven't read yet and you get the 2300km that people are talking about. You're just looking foolish now complaining about something you don't know. Calm down.

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Battles » Bills Vs Kid Buu

And this was made because..........

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Battles » Kambei vs Afro

@UltimateHero0406: At the end. The tinkerer samurai took one or even a few out that way. Several of the smaller ones got taken out by arrows during the village raid too. Not that that matters. Pretty sure the airship thing only happened once and when Kambei was dropped down. So he may have had gravity on his side. Still whether it's truly legit or not, it is an amazing feat. The problem with these characters and especially Kambei is their speed. They never really showed they were that fast. Kambei froze up a lot when encountering just regular guns and I'm pretty sure got clipped. Kyuzo would have been a better choice for this. Great striking power but not good speed and human level durability is the big weakness of Kambei. It's why when I made a battle between him and Gray Fox from metal gear I had to basically cancel it because Gray Fox would've cut him to pieces before the first swing came down. I'm picking Afro because I remember him being a bit faster than Kambei. I also personally believe the upper echelon of Rurouni Kenshin characters like Himura, Shishio, Sojiro, dear god Enishi, and oh boy Hiko Seijuro could solo all 7. Speeds a killer.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Kambei vs Afro

Pretty sure Afro is faster so he probably takes it. Those giant gundam Kambei struggled to take down could also be taken down by arrows....just thought I'd put that in there. People act like they were all metal gears or something when they weren't even close. They were more symbolic than actually tough, if that makes any sense.

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General Discussion » Who thinks hax can beat goku/DBZ?

Hax moves have always done well enough throughout the series but like everyone else touched on you gotta be pretty strong yourself for it to work on normal Goku(I'm not touching Battle of the Gods SSG Goku since Bills completely resisted transmutation I have no idea what hax moves work on Gods) Certain things like telekinetic paralysis worked wonders throughout the series unless the opponent was much stronger. Even energy absorption which seems like a no brainer was shown to have its limits when Goku set off a bomb really in Yakon when he tried it. Still, a lot of things should work. Unless the character is a nigh omnipotent or something powerful hax moves from powerful users always work. To date no dragonball character is one of those....yet.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

General Discussion » What Anime or Manga/Comic book crossovers would you love to see?

Dr. Slump and the Powerpuff Girls simply because I just think it would be great for some reason.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Yusuke Urameshi (EoS) vs. Goku (Namek Saga)

Goku waves his hand and Yusuke goes bye bye. Seriously, the manga would be bad enough but you're allowing the Anime too!? King Vegeta waved his hand and blew up multiple moons and half a planet. Vegeta casually busted a planet and its moon on his way to Earth. Those are just a couple of examples as to why Yusuke gets sodomized here.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » How far would EoS Yusuke and the 3 kings get in DBZ?

Was it only obvious to me that the blast Vegeta was on from Goku's Kaio Kenx4 got faster when Vegeta rolled off of it indicating since he wasn't disintegrated that he was resisting it? Am I the only one who saw that?

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General Discussion » What Would The Toriko Capture level Of These People Be?

@othus12: Um...okay. A lot of people would die if put in that state so I'm not sure what this was about. If we're comparing yes Freeza has a different body from Goku. He's a different species that can survive without air and after having suffered horrible injuries. What's your point?

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

General Discussion » What Would The Toriko Capture level Of These People Be?

@othus12 said:

@ohgodwhy: kid buu took the planet explosion with him fireza destroys planets from a safe distance, beng able to survive in pieces also helps. goku and vegeta were sure that the planet exploding would have killed them. it killed ultimate gohan for gods sake. ssj3 is sure stronger than ssj1 but omg it isnt as strong as some people say since there is nothing that can back that up and on the contrary there are tons of things that disregard him. name a good speed feat for ssj3. you are just multiplying shit like crazy .

To be fair to Gohan, he was unconscious and thus not giving off any energy to protect himself. Though I do believe he would have died due to a lack of oxygen. Also, Freeza's plan was to keep fighting Super Saiyan Goku on Namek until it blew up so clearly he can survive something like that unharmed or else it wouldn't have been his plan.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Nappa vs Yusuke

Nappa. Yusuke just doesn't have the power to put Nappa down. The guy tanked Tenshinhan's life sacrificing Kikoho. An attack I can safely say is beyond what Yusuke's Rei Gun is capable of. All Nappa has to do is use either his two finger attack or his most powerful attack that mouth blast thing and it's over for Yusuke. The Rei Gun is useless and if Yusuke gets too close he gets mouth blasted, simple as that.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » bills vs thor

Oh great more Bills battles before most people have even seen the movie. Or better yet have seen it a few times to analyze it well. What's it gonna take for people to be patient. It's easy for a dbz vs dbz battle but we need to see the movie at least twice before a dbz vs other verse battle.

Post by GrayWolf2 (334 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Superboy Prime Vs Dark Schneider

Isn't Dark Schneider Galaxy level and extremely hax to kill or even hurt? If that's the case he should take this rather comfortably.

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