Wow, I never knew such a mass of users could overestimate Broly.
Sasuke still cannot win, but Naruto should be able to pull out a win at his current level.
He has the tailed beast, and I'm sure Kenshiro doesn't know where its pressure points are. Muso Tensei can't help him out in this fight...
He can find out where his opponents pressure points are just by feeling his opponents blood flow, like in his fight against Souther ( Souther had his whole body's pressure points reversed so Kenshiro couldn't do anything, all Kenshiro did was stab him with his hand and he knew where his pressure points were via checking his blood flow)
@GoodGamerSambo Said:@ohgodwhy:Reality warping gets negated by Dispell bound anyway.
When was that shown in the manga.
When Raphael was explaining the dispell bound, it shouldn't be to hard for you to find, it is after all one of the most popular scans in the respects threads for DS.
Which leads me to question whether you have actually Read Bastard!! at all?
At least gain some knowledge on it before you debate against it in a clear spite thread in Bastards!! favour.
Reality warping gets negated by Dispell bound anyway.
This will be an easy win for the Bastard! team.
It won't be even close in terms of speed, at best, Buu and Omega Shenron are relativistic. While Uriel traveled 28,000 light-years in less than four years. That is 7000 times faster than the speed of light. Dark Schneider blitz the heck out of Uriel, so now it is clear that the Bastard! team blitz the DB team that it's not even funny.
In offensive capabilities, Buu and Omega are at best planetary+. Schneider and Uriel destroyed a blackhole that has the mass of 5 million suns. You do the math.
Or Schneider can just use the Venom spell that destroys the victim on a cellular level, so Buu and Omega Shenron's regeneration won't work.
While you are correct, you are being slightly biased to the DBZ team.
DS didn't blitz Uriel, they're pretty evenly matched, actually if DS didn't use bloodstone he would of lost against Uriel, Uriel had more firepower.
28,000 light years in less than four years is travel speed, you should bring up the exchange that DS and Uriel made where they were trading millions of punches and counters in less than a second.
Buu and Omega are definately above planet+, but I'm not going to give a estimate as to how much stronger they are though.
And the black abyss that they destroyed from the side effects of their fight wasn't 5 million suns in mass it was 50 million times the mass of the sun.
Just my 5 cents :)
@ElMatador: If you can't beat or convince someone on MvC that your faulty logic is correct then you definately won't convince anyone here.
Why even try bro.
DS speedblitzes all of them.
Dark Schneider solo's without the use of DKL...
Still wanking DBZ to insanely high levels El Matador?
There's a suprise...
Just to let people know, this guy also thinks characters like Dark Schneider would lose to Buuhan and kid buu....
Spike , is that you? or maybe Kinasin with another account ? i can't tell.
Probably the second option or maybe a user called "El Matador" from another forum...
Yes, Janemba did not destroy a universe but he did beat a person that was shaking universes just by transforming and he also warped universes with no effort what so ever.
>Buu Saga Goku only shook earth with his transformation to ssj3
>Now he can casually shake universes when transforming to ssj3
Goku did not have that big of a power leap.
Fanwanking at it's finest xD
He gets blitzed. Get over it.
A stomp thread like this shouldn't of been bumped.
I'd advise that a mod lock this ASAP otherwise a flamewar will start xD
Yes it took Gogeta to beat Janemba but when Goku SSJ3 was fighting Janemba he did put up a good fight and he was alone all the time, later on when Goku revert back to his base form then Vegeta SSJ2 showed up. Gotenks can not defeat Janemba alone not even in his SSJ3 form he's not strong enough. Watch the movie with Hirudegarn, Hirudegarn hit Gotenks SSJ3 so hard he defused but Goku took blows directly to the face and was holding his own. People think Gotenks is far stronger that Goku SSJ3 is but thats not true. When Supreme Kai was suprised to see an SSJ3 transformation regarding Gotenks he asked Goku if Gotenks was stronger than him now, Goku replied that he could do it (Going SSJ3) Goku knows when somebdoy's stronger than him as he often states it but he did not with Gotenks so their power could be even for al we know and besides Goku is a way better fighter. So in the final round we have Goku SSJ3 who's proven that he could some damage to Janemba but now he has support from Vegeta SSJ2 and Adult Gohan SSJ2.
Gotenks getting knocked out by hirudegarn in one shot is clearly PIS, Vegeta lasted longer than Gotenks did IIRC, now don't tell me you think Vegeta > Gotenks?
@GoodGamerSambo: He actually reaches hypersonic speeds, if he burns his cosmos high enough before briefly reaching the speed of light. The Seiya that beat the Silver Saints should suffice, Gold Saint tier of course is too powerful.
So just water him down so his cosmo only allows him to reach mach 40?
Depends, From what part of the story are you using Seiya with his bronze cloth?
In the first few chapters he was only mach 1 with pretty poor destructive capacity, but as soon as it hit's the sactuary saga they all get massive powerups e.g. 7th sense, LS reactions and combat etc.
If i were you, i'd use someone else Speedforcespider.
You either going to have seiya who isn't good enough or Seiya who is to strong xD
Anyway, here is a list of mine that i have copied and pasted from another site...
15.Demon eyes kyo
Not the most accurate listings but it's get's the point across =]
^^^ Why not?? Who knows how powerful is Goku by then... also the OP says that "who is the strongest for us??" so I chose 150 year old Goku w/7 DB's...
Exactly, it's pure fan speculation as to how much stronger he got. Nobody truely knows...