GIRUGAMESH (Level 7)

@Nerx said:

" @ssjsuperman said:

" @cfatalis:
yes some pokemon are far beyoned dbz level. 
 
    arceus could solo the hole  dbz universe 
 
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I fully agree, same with Digimon and don't give me any sh!t that Zeed Milleniumon cannot beat  the HST-verse  don't quote or reply  this opinion if you don't agree with my statement "

I disagree.

@Nerx said:

" @GIRUGAMESH: not really , check the OP "

I did, it fails. Naruto is a much better character than Ash.

@Tradog said:

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"Team 1 wins this. "

Thank you for providing such an articulate and well-supported argument. Don't bother posting your opinion unless you have something to back it up. "

I love how now you are trying so hard to attack me because I dunno I guess you felt offended. Anyway spiderman webs naruto fight over, or Venom absorbs naruto fight over, Spiderman punches naruto fight over. Why don't you take your own advice and  make a argument against my post instead of wasting time telling me to make a argument? "

I was not offended in any way, it's just that you made a pretty pointless statement.  1. "Spiderman webs Naruto"- wrong, so very wrong. Naruto's speed and strength outclasses Spiderman's and Venom's, he's not getting hit. Oh and if Venom can break out of Spiderman's web with little effort, Naruto could do it effortlessly. 2. Venom absorbs Naruto? When did he do that to anyone? And again, it's not going to hit. 3. Spiderman puches Naruto? Ok, then Naruto punches him back 10 times harder.  I have been making valid arguments the whole time, if you would care to look back over previous pages. You are the only one supporting the marvel team, they are totally outclassed.  "

Non of my statements were pointless.  1.Naruto has been hit by slow people before spiderman has also webbed super speed villains and heros aswell as for strength unless this is sage mode then no he does not spiderman lifted a building and ripped a train off it's tracks naruto has done nothing close to that. 2. Read a spiderman comic he absorbed people all the time, wow you are comparing two different people so because venom who is physically stronger then spiderman broke out of his web that means naruto can? Well by your logic since sasuke beat naruto  then so can spiderman and venom. And again spiderman has hit faster people then naruto. 3.Naruto can't punch as hard as spiderman you have not made valid points in fact I don't think you even read comics not enough to debate anyway weather its only me or all of animevice you and no one else made a valid argument. "

Referring to your earlier statement, you're lucky: if I was your boss, I'd sack you on the spot. 
 
1. Naruto has been hit by slow people before? Really? Because the only person who has ever hit Naruto in sage mode was Pain, who has kage level speed at least (and he had to outnumber him to do it). Spiderman lifted a building? WOW. You do realise that Spiderman is a confirmed 10 tonner? Naruto in sage mode has strength that would make spiderman look pathetic, he tossed a GIANT RHINO several hundred metres away. Is that getting through to you? Naruto in sage mode is, at the very least, an 80 tonner, which is stronger than Venom and Spiderman put together (because 80 is more than 10, do you see that?)
2. Sage naruto moved so fast that Tsunade couldn't follow it. Ok, I accept that Venom can absorb people, but the fact is, it still wont hit (oh and he could break out of it anyway, Naruto pre-shippuden broke out of a snake's stomach). 
3. "Wow you are comparing two different people so because Venom who is physically stronger than Spiderman broke out of his web that means Naruto can?" 
Well actually, if person A can lift 50 tons and can break out of something, logic follows that person B who can lift 100 tons could break out the same thing with little difficulty. Of course Naruto can punch harder than spiderman, he moves faster and is stronger. 
 
You don't know enough about anime, it would seem. If you love comics so much, I recommend going to comicvine, this is ANIMEvice. And for the record, I was the one who knew the limitations of Spidey's strength, not you.

@FLCL1 said:

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@Tradog:  
4 tails or 6 tails has not been shown to be hurt so what no one in naruto except
 
Madara is strong enough we have no seen enough of the tails to know how strong he is 4 tails destroyed a small part of a forest and 9 tails is only a village buster so I don't know what 6 tails will do 
I will call it a draw when someone can provide a good enough argument proving so even so why put the ''or naruto wins'' option he does not win in any situation naruto is C class at best hulk solos this with ease dude.

 
 
thx for proving my point and ur fail. 
 
naruto( 4 and 6 tails) has not been hurt by ANY phisical means in naruto how can hulk win? 
 
solo's with ease HA can u smell ur own fail

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Lol I love how people try to personal attack others when they get mad. Just because he has not been shown to be hurt because no one else was able that automatically means hulk can't? Wow if anyone fails its you. Sad thing is I liked you and respected you even defended you in PMs on comicvine but if you are going to attack me for making a point then okay. "

wrong u attack ME first u accused me of disrespecting newdeath with my debates are u crazy??  i didnt name call or anything u basicly said my debates are so weak that i disrespected the ground he walked on  i wanted to call it a stalemate (which it is) but u countiued to insult me like i dont kno wat im talking about  comicvine?? land of arragant assholes who would spit on us animevicers?? let them talk  imma be the bigger man and say im srry i admit i took it a little to far but thats how i am when i debate sometimes so watch out XP "

Indeed, comicvine: a place where morons can argue that Spiderman is stronger than Vegeta and not get laughed at.

@Son_of_Manus said:

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" @GIRUGAMESH: Not when she tears him to shreds cuts off his and veggies his brain and hold him from reforming. Jean is the host of The Pheonix "

1. She was the temporary host of the phoenix, it's not as if every time she is used in a battle thread it suddenly becomes phoenix force vs other unlucky combatant. 2. Regular Jean Grey is NOT vegging Alucard, proffessor X would not be capable of that (he would be mad to go anywhere near Alucard's brain). 3. Hold him from reforming? Are you aware that Alucard is capable of telepathy as well? It simply isn't happening, she is practically a non-factor in this fight (in fact I don't know why I included her). "

She is an Omega level Mutant she is stronger in telepathy then Xavier or Alucard. She was born with the Phoenix force died with it and came back to life with it. So are you admitting to trying to make a spite thread here? "

Are you smoking something or are you just plain stupid? 
 
Where is your proff for her being stronger than Prof X or Alucard? 
The Phoenix Force is NOT Jean Grey, the phoenix force is the entity that represents the life force of all beings in the omniverse and has enough power to dwarf the living tribunal. Are you trying to argue that this is Jean Grey's power? 
In what way, shape or form am I making this a spite? You are the one introducing the Phoenix Force to the argument. And as evidenced by the arguments for team Marvel, this is certainly not a spite in Alucard's favour.

@Tradog said:

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"Team 1 wins this. "

Thank you for providing such an articulate and well-supported argument. Don't bother posting your opinion unless you have something to back it up. "

I love how now you are trying so hard to attack me because I dunno I guess you felt offended. Anyway spiderman webs naruto fight over, or Venom absorbs naruto fight over, Spiderman punches naruto fight over. Why don't you take your own advice and  make a argument against my post instead of wasting time telling me to make a argument? "

I was not offended in any way, it's just that you made a pretty pointless statement. 
 
1. "Spiderman webs Naruto"- wrong, so very wrong. Naruto's speed and strength outclasses Spiderman's and Venom's, he's not getting hit. Oh and if Venom can break out of Spiderman's web with little effort, Naruto could do it effortlessly. 
2. Venom absorbs Naruto? When did he do that to anyone? And again, it's not going to hit. 
3. Spiderman puches Naruto? Ok, then Naruto punches him back 10 times harder. 
 
I have been making valid arguments the whole time, if you would care to look back over previous pages. You are the only one supporting the marvel team, they are totally outclassed. 

@Tradog said:

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"@GIRUGAMESH: we deal with "special" debaters sometimes "

I often have that problem with Tradog XD "

Dude you try too hard, often? We debated like once lol in fact I didn't even know you debated until yesterday, after seeing you post I have no idea why you are talking like you're a good debater or something, FLCL1 should not be talking either his debates and rep on comicvine are enough for me not to take him seriously. "

Oh dear, somebody is rambling. And I have been fully aware of you 'debating', it's not my fault you are unobservant.

@Tradog said:

" @ssjsuperman said:

" @cfatalis:
yes some pokemon are far beyoned dbz level. 
 
    arceus could solo the hole  dbz universe 
 
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Whats he gonna do create a universe on them? "

I highly doubt it.

@Son_of_Manus said:

" @GIRUGAMESH: Not when she tears him to shreds cuts off his and veggies his brain and hold him from reforming. Jean is the host of The Pheonix "

1. She was the temporary host of the phoenix, it's not as if every time she is used in a battle thread it suddenly becomes phoenix force vs other unlucky combatant. 
2. Regular Jean Grey is NOT vegging Alucard, proffessor X would not be capable of that (he would be mad to go anywhere near Alucard's brain). 
3. Hold him from reforming? Are you aware that Alucard is capable of telepathy as well? It simply isn't happening, she is practically a non-factor in this fight (in fact I don't know why I included her).

@cfatalis said:

" @GIRUGAMESH: when does  arceus get owned? and don't put game mechanic here "

Well actually I am, since that's the original material and the most canon source of power for pokemon (and the most logical).

@Son_of_Manus said:

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" well what would have to happen is alucard shouldn't kill anyone of the xmen who is currently romaticly connected otherwise badstuff happens. "

e.g you mean kill jean then scott "

He can not kill Jean "

yes he can, he can't kill phoenix however "

Jean is Phoenix as soon as she is threatened she would resort to Phoenix. Even with out Phoenix she is still omega her TK could tear him to shreds and she could destroy his mind. He can be killed he said so himself only a human can as he said and jean is human "

it is a symbolism really, not that alucard is weak to human, human in this case means father anderson, who is a superhuman in his own way, alucard was referring to the tenacity of human to keep on living, oh and alucard regenerates, and has the " i cannot be erased" power thing "

Phoenix can erase him his entire history and anyone's knowledge of him in the wave of an eyelash she can make it so he never existed. Phoenix is a multiversal threat she can creat Universes. Alucard is a grain of sand his everywhere all the time thing is pointless. "

Oh dear, Jean Grey does NOT have access to phoenix, that's just stupid. It's jean grey we're talking about here, not phoenix (they are not the same entity). Oh and clearly you should do some reading on Alucard, tearing him to shreds will do nothing.

@FLCL1 said:

"@GIRUGAMESH: we deal with "special" debaters sometimes "

I often have that problem with Tradog XD

What the OP pictures should have looked like: 
 
                                     vs                                      
One of the most fail characters in all of anime.                                           The main character of one the greatest animes ever. 

Alas poor Madara, I knew thee well. 
 
Curbstomp in team 2's favour, Super 17 solos easily. Even with the huge power-down of DBGT, Super 17 would still be roughly a Recoome-level enemy.

@FLCL1 said:

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@Tradog:  
4 tails or 6 tails has not been shown to be hurt so what no one in naruto except
 
Madara is strong enough we have no seen enough of the tails to know how strong he is 4 tails destroyed a small part of a forest and 9 tails is only a village buster so I don't know what 6 tails will do 
I will call it a draw when someone can provide a good enough argument proving so even so why put the ''or naruto wins'' option he does not win in any situation naruto is C class at best hulk solos this with ease dude.

 
 
thx for proving my point and ur fail. 
 
naruto( 4 and 6 tails) has not been hurt by ANY phisical means in naruto how can hulk win? 
 
solo's with ease HA can u smell ur own fail

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Note my point above, that is why this is a tie.

@Tradog said:

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"@Hellos said:

" @Tradog: He unleased a ton of his webbing to pull that off, plus the difference between IM and Neji is, IM doesn't go poof in smoke turning into a log with a leaf. Naruto took a trick out of Kakashi's book of attacking from under the ground, Spiderman won't at all be doing that trick and the blind spot isn't something at all easy to find. As long as Neji has chakra, I will see him doing exactly what he did to Naruto when he tried to hit hm.  This is making me want to go look back at the fight Neji had with the spider character (Kidomaru) in Naruto. :P "

Well it wasn't about how much he used it was how quick he pulled it off and how strong it was to trap ironman not to mention he still got him even though ironman is a genius as well, well there is another difference between ironman and neji is neji doesn't go mach 1 speed and has advanced gadgets that far surpass anything naruto has and substitution jutsu wont be much of a problem spiderman has fought and beat mysterio remember? He makes illusion and substitution like attacks. The point was if someone like naruto was able to pull a surprise move I'm sure a genius like spiderman can outsmart an kid like neji and with spiderman and neji still gets tired spiderman wont need to find a blindspot when neji can't defend himself  after running out of chakra and that seems like what will happen since spiderman's stamina far outclasses neji's. And same here but spiderman outclasses Kidomaru...by a lot. "

Spiderman outclasses Kidomaru? I highly doubt that. But as for Neji, he has demonstrated the necessary speed to match a kyuubi-boosted Naruto in the chuunin exams. With the Byakugan, I see no problem in Neji anticipating Spiderman's attacks. However, spiderman clearly has the advantage in physical strength here, as shown by the posts (Spiderman is supposed to be a 10 tonner, under normal circumstances, but it can go beyond that). Both of them are highly intelligent, Spiderman demonstrating a strong sense of resourcefulness when faced with difficuty. Although Neji has shurikens and kunai, Spiderman has webbing, which, as shown, is strong enough to hold ironman (although I doubt Neji would be hit). Even if Neji were to be hit by this, however, he may be able to escape via Rotation.   Furthermore, if Neji has his 128-hit trigram attack, plus substitutions, shadow clones and other techniques that will enable him to use abilities that he has never seen before.   I honestly think it could go either way, depending on the setting (in a forest or an area with a large amount of scenery, I'd give it to Spiderman, but I'd lean more towards Neji in an open arena). "

Yes spiderman outclasses kidomaru, kidomaru's webs or not as strong,More stamina,strength ect as steel who has neji   anyway  Kidoumaru power set wasn't like Spider-Man's,i dont remember Kidoumaru liffting 10 tons,having a web stronger than steel,being a genius and being able to antecipate your oponents attacks? As for his speed  didnt Kakashi (or someone else I think the creator) state they cant dodge gun fire?because Spidey does that everyday,has beaten the sh!t out of Speedsters before and has webed/holded bullets in the mid air before, Even if he can somehow anticipate spiderman's attacks he wont be fast enough to react, Shuriken wont even be a problem spiderman has fought ninjas  before, If it hit neji he wouldn't be able spin around those webs are strong enough to the point ironman could not move an inch, Neji wont hit spiderman with his traigrams or anything for that matter theoretically speaking no human should be able to even touch spiderman and besides the powers neji is not even peak human as for clones though I have not seen  neji really do that in a fight spiderman has fought mysterio who made clones and spiderman beat him with spider sense.  And I guess if it was in a open area maybe but I see no way neji will even get a hit.  "

Sorry could you write that again but using a decent structure, your English is disgraceful.  
 
1. Nobody stated they couldn't dodge gunfire. 
2. Spiderman has fought ninjas before? Tell me, did any of them possess superhuman levels of strength and speed? 
3. You keep using Iron Man as though he's some sort of God, he's not that great. And Neji is far more agile than Iron man, he isn't getting webbed (or at least not to the point when he is unable to use rotation). 
4. Theorectically speaking, Naruto ninjas are not regular humans, they are clearly superhuman in nearly every aspect. 
5. Here's the difference between Mysterio's clones and Neji's: Neji's clones can actually throw punches and Mysterio is not even peak human, let alone superhuman. 
6. Neji isn't even peak human, you say? You must be joking, I'm beginning to think you're a Naruto hater (either that or you just don't know anything about Naruto).

@Tradog said:

"Team 1 wins this. "

Thank you for providing such an articulate and well-supported argument. Don't bother posting your opinion unless you have something to back it up.

@JThree47693 said:

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" Wow just as much comic anime crossovers here as on Comicvine it really is dumb since it is two totally different concepts of power. But seriously Spider-Man and Venom are street levelers this is no means a fair fight unless there is more involved or this is a restricted or early version of Naruto  "

Even pre-shippuden naruto would win but shippuden naruto way outclasses them. "

Do not underestimate these two Spider-Man mans punches pack a 25 ton force hit his webbing can hold multiple tons, his pre cog spidey sense allows him to detect his opponents moves before they make them. Then you have his reflexes and dodging skills. Venom has all that and more and is physically stronger and faster. "

I suppose I didn't give them enough credit but Naruto is faster than either and (in sage mode) stronger than either  and has tons of techniques. If he summoned Gamabunta it would probably be enough. Or his 1000 shadow clones would probably do the job as well. then there's rasengan and substitution etc. "

I am aware but when I made my previous statement I meant taking away certain abilities that gave him a far superior edge since they have nothing to counter those attacks. And earlier incarnations as in Naruto such as the first story arc "

Oh well if it's pre-shippuden and they're together then they may stand a chance but he could still summon gamabunta and create 1000 clones of himself even pre-shippuden. "

I do not know much about Naruto except through the number of episodes I have seen and mangas I skimmed through most my knowledge comes from stuff my friends have told me it is not my particular cup of tea. So I am unaware of allot his capabilities so I do not know what I am up against but I do know allot about Spidey and Venom. Venom has a camouflage technique that not even Spider-Man's spidey sense can pick up. Plus Venom has a extremely fast  healing factor Spidey does as well but no where near as fast. Just some stuff to take in to affect. I am not sure what Naruto's Durability is but Spider-Man has brushed off blows from the Hulk and Juggernaut "

This is a huge stomp in Naruto's favour (this is sage Naruto, after all). Strength= Beyond that of Spiderman and Carnage combined. Sage Naruto tossed a giant rhino about 500 metres away, so it is speculated that he is in the 100 ton range (possibly more). Speed= Naruto easily. He moved so fast that Tsunade couldn't follow it.  Venom may have a good healing factor, but a rasengan or two later and he's out the picture. Rasenshuriken is spite. Not that Naruto would need any jutsu, taijutsu alone would be more than enough to make this a stomp. "

That Rhino was nowhere near 100 tons. 70 or 80 tons is more like it. "

Ah, but that is not how strength is measured, I was under the impression that in order to be classed as say a 30 toner you had to be able to lift 30 tons. But Naruto didn't just lift it, he tossed it around 500 metres away, which, I think you'll agree, is far more impressive than just lifting it. And even if Naruto were a 70 tonner (being generous to team 1), it's still far more than the combined strength of Spiderman and Venom.

@sinister_noob_incarnate said:

"itachi for one, has 2 eyes with sharingan, thus 2X more powerful. itachi from what ive seen, is smarter and faster, and WAY more skilled with genjutsu. luckily kakashi can make portals or whatever they are called. if he can suck up itachi before he gets burned to a crisp, then he has a chance. i personally dont think he has a chance but whatever. "

Your logic is fail.

@ssjsuperman said:

"@cfatalis:
yes some pokemon are far beyoned dbz level. 
 
    arceus could solo the hole  dbz universe 
 
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Ah yes, a God-pokemon that can be caught with a master ball, a God-pokemon that can be owned by a few other legendary pokemon. Arceus is a god among pokemon, which is saying barely anything at all. 
Congratulations on proving the fact that you are a pokemon fanboy.