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Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Yhwach

@5th said:

@GIRUGAMESH said:

@Zerogodlike: Does Bach seem like the type to leave a potential threat alive if he can help it? I don't think so. In my mind, Bach (at least, with his eyes closed) is incapable of killing Aizen.

'kaguya is only highly resistant to chakra based techiques'

Sorry, what? When was this stated? Unless I'm mistaken, I think you might be getting confused. She can absorb any chakra based technique, but that has nothing to do with her durability. Fact is, she was taking hits from attacks with better DC than anything in Bleach and getting right back up.

Again, not saying she wins, because I want to see the limits of Bach's power. But you need to stop lowballing.

@5th said:

Obito has senjutsu chakra, as does Black Zetsu, it wasn't a surprise that he managed to stab Madara considering Juubi kins have a weakness to Senjutsu chakra.

Actually that was complete PIS. Taking hits from 8 gates Gai and wanting to go for more, but can't take a casual hand stab from Obito/Zetsu? Terrible writing, I'm afraid.

You're right on that aspect of the fight, Madara being defeated by a hand stab by Zetsu was PIS

Honestly, the manga would've gone a lot better had Madara stayed as the final villain before Sasuke

I think pretty much everyone would agree that Kaguya should have never happened. At all.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Aizen runs the Royal guard gauntlet

Aizen clears the first 4 rounds, then gets loses to the oldest shinigami alive after a good fight.

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Battles » Hagoromo Otsutsuki vs Toneri and Naruto

@DarkSlumber said:

@joseph619: Actually it was never stated that he was equal to Madara. What was actually stated was that he had as much Chakra as Madara. It was stated somewhere on the Naruto Forums by a person that saw the movie.

I haven't seen the film yet, was he referring to Juubidara or regular Madara?

I'm leaning towards the team atm.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Hagoromo Otsutsuki vs Toneri and Naruto

@akronawol17: I think he just said that his mother's might was greater than anyone's, including his own, though I would have thought they were both damn close to each other.

Kaguya > Hagoromo

Naruto + Sasuke = Hagoromo

With a bit of help from Kakashi and Sakura, Naruto and Sakura were able to beat Kaguya.

So I would have thought that prime Hagoromo (10 tails jin) would be very close to Kaguya.

But how strong is Naruto in The Last? Do they say if he got weaker/stronger?

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Battles » Whitebeard vs Yhwach

@GoldenStar66: You realise that people have been comparing Yhwach to the likes of Kaguya, Toneri and EoS Naruto, right?

In his current form, Yhwach is in a different league to anyone in OP. You could throw in Garp and Akainu to help Whitebeard out and he'd still win.

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Battles » Toneri vs EoS Sasuke

@SonNeko said:

Well if Naruto beat him Sasuke could do the same.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Yhwach vs Aizen

There's a simple reason nobody has done this yet: it's one-sided.

Round 1:

Aizen, by his own admission, is weaker than Yammamoto. After sealing his bankai, Yhwach beat Yamma with very little difficulty (though Yamma was slightly battle worn by that point). If Aizen attempts to use bankai, it'll just be sealed the same way.

Eyes-closed Yhwach >> Shikai Yammamoto > Aizen. In terms of power, Aizen is outclassed by the other two. Ichigo's dad was holding his own against base Aizen, and kyoka suigetsu seems of limited use against people on this level (as seen in the Yamma vs Aizen scene). At any rate, Yhwach should win with no more than mid difficulty.

Round 2:

Yhwach stomps. In his fully awakened form, he took out the oldest, strongest shinigami alive (aside from maybe EoS Ichigo). He's currently the strongest character in Bleach. That's all there is to it.

Round 3:

See above.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Yhwach

@Zerogodlike: Does Bach seem like the type to leave a potential threat alive if he can help it? I don't think so. In my mind, Bach (at least, with his eyes closed) is incapable of killing Aizen.

'kaguya is only highly resistant to chakra based techiques'

Sorry, what? When was this stated? Unless I'm mistaken, I think you might be getting confused. She can absorb any chakra based technique, but that has nothing to do with her durability. Fact is, she was taking hits from attacks with better DC than anything in Bleach and getting right back up.

Again, not saying she wins, because I want to see the limits of Bach's power. But you need to stop lowballing.

@5th said:

Obito has senjutsu chakra, as does Black Zetsu, it wasn't a surprise that he managed to stab Madara considering Juubi kins have a weakness to Senjutsu chakra.

Actually that was complete PIS. Taking hits from 8 gates Gai and wanting to go for more, but can't take a casual hand stab from Obito/Zetsu? Terrible writing, I'm afraid.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki & Toneri Ōtsutsuki VS Gremmy Thoumeaux & Yhwach

@Zerogodlike said:

yhwach Stomps with ease.

Cute.

@Whats_out_the_bag said:

Gremmy kills him self trying to be on the same level as team 1. And Yhwach fights for his life.

Pretty much.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Yhwach

@5th said:

@Zerogodlike said:

@luthluth said:

@5th said:

Don't see Yhwach putting Kaguya down even with his hax,

Kaguya is too overwhelming

Yhwach doesn't have enough DC

Looks like Sakuras got the DC lol

^^ this ichigo could block that attack with his pinky finger.

Completely irrelevant to my argument, you simply cannot gauge one's power based on a moment of weakness or inability to attack because of PIS

You're disregarding the fact that Kaguya can make a planet hyped Gudou Dama and has the ability to become one with her environment, what stops her from instantly BFR'ing Yhwach via summoning her dimension to teleport both.

She doesn't have to touch her opponents, she only did that with Sasuke so she could get rid of him.

Juha Bach doesn't have enough feats to imply he could defeat Kaguya who needed a moon level chibaku tensei just to seal her.

There's also the fact that she can decay her opponents nigh-instantly with her bone jutsu, the same bones that could pierce a Perfect Susano'o armor like Kakashi's.

There was incredible hax (Kamui, Rinnegan, Chibaku Tensei, and BDRS'S (Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken) that needed to be used in order to defeat Kaguya.

I can see Yhwach slicing her apart, but that isn't going to stop her immortality or regeneration that only one Bleach character has; Aizen.

Yhwach can slice all he wants, he isn't going to stop her from coming back and spamming giant country sized Gudou Dama's at him.

Kaguya obviously has greater showings no matter how much hype Juha Bach gets

I have to say, I very much agree with you on this.

Even if Bach is unaffected by her abilities, how is he going to put her down for good? He wasn't able to kill Aizen, after all.

Anywho, still want to wait on this one. Lets see how Bach loses against Ichigo...

@Zerogodlike: let's say he can forsee/negate her attacks. How does he put her down for good? He certainly doesn't have the DC for it, and I don't recall any of his abilities that could do the job either.

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Battles » BoZ Goku vs BSM Naruto vs Dangai Ichigo vs Current Luffy

@DXC said:

BSM Naruto>>> BM Naruto>>Goku>=Dangai Ichigo>>>>>> Luffy.

BSM Naruto throws a BB GG.

Is that before or after he's blitzed/nuked?

Wake up people, Goku is still above any of the others here. As Nishi pointed out, a weaker version of Goku was tanking nukes without much trouble. He outclasses them in almost every way. Put in the Naruto who fought Kaguya and this would be interesting (he'd actually stand a good shot of winning).

@SonNeko: Naruto and Toneri were having their heated final battle on the moon, when all of a sudden...

Piccolo: STOP MOCKING ME!!

(Moon gets nuked)

Goku>>Dangai Ichigo>BSM Naruto>>Luffy.

It won't be long before mountain busting blasts and more are being thrown around in this fight. Luffy will be vaporised as soon as that starts happening, Ichigo won't last much longer in the clash and then Naruto will be overwhelmed by the superior strength, speed and power Goku has.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Juha Bach vs Madara Uchiha

@taichokage said:

@Kade17 said:

@taichokage: Touche. I'll just say this, the day when Black Beard becomes King of the HST will be a day indeed.

A lot of people don't know this but Blackbeard is my favorite villain in the entire HST. I would embrace that wholeheartedly. But Oda has to pick up the pace for Blackbeard to become the strongest of the Tall Dark and Handsome trio of HST villains.

Well, in Blackbeard's case, Tall and Dark at least.

OP still has a long way to go before they can challenged the god tiers of Bleach/Naruto. Blackbeard will probably end up being prime Whitebeard level (might be there already, after the timeskip).

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Yhwach

I'll wait to see how Bach is eventually taken down before I say anything.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Black Star (Soul Eater) vs Darth Nihilus

@ShinobiX said:

Just looked up more on Nihilus. He actually doesn't have that many feats. But one thing he does have is Essence Transfer( Can transfer his spirit into other bodies). Does Black Star have resistance to possession?

Life drain. Simple as. No idea where you've been looking, but that's his main thing.

@DBZ_universe: true, Nihilus does lack speed feats. He'd definitely be superhuman (pretty much all sith lords are), and he'd have force precog, but if he manages to pull off a life drain then BS is dead. BS has a shot at winning, but he'd have to go straight for the kill with an attack strong enough to totally destroy him (remember that Nihilus just pretty much exists as a force-possessed suit of armour).

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Battles » Current Sai vs Garp

The hell is this thread? Sai gets stomped.

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Battles » Yhwach Vs. Raditz

@Loadedgnome said:

And ALMIGHTY, assuming the technique has no limit is a serious nlf

This.

I guess Ywach stomps Galactus. Don't worry, the hype train will run out of steam eventually.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Black Star (Soul Eater) vs Darth Nihilus

One of the most feared, powerful sith lords ever vs Black Star? I'm afraid he loses here.

@DBZ_universe said:

@ShinobiX: Black Star has life/soul draining resisting to a insane level. The water he drank drains ones soul. Stein said anyone would die instantly if it was dranked. By touching it with your finger the water is already draning you.

And as shown, Nihilus wiped out the life of whole planets without any trouble. How does this water compare to that? Most people would die just being near Nihilus, without him doing anything. They've never faced anything like him before. There's a reason he was feared across the galaxy by jedi and sith alike.

His physical abilities won't do much to save him against the strongest life drain user in the Star Wars universe.

@akronawol17 said:

Nihilus, and everything apart of Star Wars EU, has been officially retconned by George Lucas himself. so Nihilus loses via being non-canon lol

Man, screw Lucas.

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Battles » THESE UCHIHA (WITHOUT SHARINGAN) VS THESE SHINOBI

@yespls said:

Madara vs Naruto - Madara (kyuubi spawn) Obito vs Sakura - Obito destroys Sakura Sasuke vs Rock Lee - Lee wins if Sasuke doesn't use Kirin Ino Shika Cho vs Kakashi - Ino Shika Cho Itachi vs Gaara - Gaara stomps Temari loses to all of the Uchiha's Darui loses to all of the Uchiha's but stands a better chance than Temari. But Kakashi vs Kakashi...

Why would Madara spawn a kyuubi he had no way of controlling? :)

I think Darui could put up a damn good fight against a Kakashi without sharingan, but yeah, he'd still probably lose the majority.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,266 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Prime Madara vs The six paths of Pain vs Gilgamesh(Fate/Zero)

IC, Madara.

But as it's bloodlusted, Gil should have it (assuming he goes straight for Ea). Pain is pretty much a non factor.

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Battles » THESE UCHIHA (WITHOUT SHARINGAN) VS THESE SHINOBI

Madara can still use susano and preta path without any eyes at all, he wins every fight :P

PIS aside, Madara should still take every 1v1 fight he's in. His taijutsu skills would be at least equal to anyone on this list (except for Lee with 6 gates), he's still got a ton of chakra and fire techniques on a massive scale. If he gets Hashirama's healing he should be fine, but if he gets wood techniques as well then he stomps anyone on this list. Sage Naruto and Lee (with 6 gates) would give him trouble, Sakura might be tricky (especially with her healing), but I don't see him losing. Not to mention his combat experience is roughly equal to that of everyone on the other team combined.

@CosmicKnight75: Blind Madara was capable of kicking Sai and Sage Naruto aside, as well as being able to deal with Sasuke in close combat. Obviously Uchihas have a major boost with their eye powers, but they're far from weak in h2h without them.

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