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Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » KAKASHI & GUY vs. AKAINU & AOKIJI

@luthluth said:

If this is EOS at their strongest forms then Kakashi can solo both rounds.

This.

@CosmicKnight75 said:

@Zerogodlike said:

@phantomrant said:

@Zerogodlike said:

Gai is non factor in fight since intangibility is on and kakashi is going to get his head punched in.

Gai basically pulls a luffy punches into aokji and gets frozen and taken out right there since he has no durability.

How is he a non-factor when the moment he makes contact with Aokiji, it's Aokiji who's getting damaged. Gai moves at sufficient speed that he can distort space and with enough heat/build-up kicking power that ice is going to get vaporized the moment he kicks it. Aokiji is taking in kinetic power that ice dispersion isn't coming back from. Gai can rest in peace after that.

Kakashi can kamui akainu easily from a distance.

show his physical feats that make him even to be able to damage any of the admirals Hes lucky if hes even mountain level.

C'mon, now you just lowballing the series again. The wind pressure behind Evening Elephant alone was enough to generate a huge tunnel underneath the ground without the punch even making contact. Both Admirals are getting one-shotted by a direct hit. However, while Guy can potentially solo, he is going down if he does suffer a hit while in this state but thats very unlikely so it's a toss up.

Kakashi assuming he as Double Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan solos. His head isnt getting punched off when it's behind his giant Perfect Susano'o and the durability issue no longer becomes one since you got Perfect Susano'os easily taking and dishing Island level attacks. His should be at least as powerful as Madara's that could slice a few mountains far away in one stroke while also spamming Kamui attacks to BFR the Admirals. He's actually quite an overkill with this Deus Ex Machina powerup.

Well said. There's a reason Kakashi wasn't allowed to keep those powers, Sasuke would have been totally screwed against him and Naruto.

@Zerogodlike: As Cosmicknight said, you are lowballing. The tunnel that was created in the ground was from the air pressure of Gai's weakest attack in 8 gates mode (it is stated that each hit of the evening elephant is faster, and therefore stronger, than the last), an attack that pushed Madara at least (based on the size of the hole and Madara's perspective) 100 metres through the earth, the same Madara who was barely forced back by a daytime tiger.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » MARCO & ACE vs. RAIKAGE & KILLER BEE

@phantomrant said:

@Zerogodlike said:

Didnt sasuke cut bee's bm mode tails?

What of it?

also naruto characters are extremely bad against physical attacks compared to chakra.

Yeah. Same goes for every other character across all other mediums of fiction. Physical attacks being more effective against energy-based attacks is something that exists in many battle mangas, and is called surface area mechanics. Though, it's all kinetic energy at the end of the day. Marco's physical attacks aren't going to make up for the explosive energy in a Bijuudama that was tanked point-blank.

True that. Getting a little sick of people thinking AoE always determines how strong/effective an attack is.

> Madara's perfect susano is capable of tanking mountain-busting bijuudamas.

> Kaguya's bone missiles were capable of breaking through an even stronger PS, despite not even being building block level.

> Nappa takes blasts from people who are at least country level without breaking a sweat

> Could have been killed by power disc the size of a large pizza (it cut a small mountain in half, but still, you take my point).

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

@GIRUGAMESH: I agree with round 1 however i find it unlikely that they will be able to finish off Raikage before Bee gets a beast bomb off, that's just how i see it. As it stands Hachibi >Marco >Ace >Raikage > base Bee.

I think the two of them at once could screw Raikage pretty quickly. To be honest, I don't think he could hold both of them off anyway, Ace has enough AoE with his attacks that he could stop Raikage interfering with Marco going after Bee. But yeah, like I said, definitely possible for the Naruto team to win it in round 2, just not as likely.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Madara vs Kizaru

Question: how would Kizaru win if Madara stuck himself inside a truth seeking ball?

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » SENJU VS UCHIHA BATTLE ROYALE

Round 1 would be a tough one, but I would bet on the Uchihas after a great battle. They clinch it due to better hax and intelligence.

Round 2: On top of everything they had before, they also have the advantage in raw power. So6P Naruto is pretty much the same as EoS Naruto, as far as I'm concerned, so he'd have a slight edge on Sasuke, but I think Madara (assuming he's at his best, with both rinnegan and sage power) could deal with him alone. Failing that, they could have Juubito and Sasuke gang up on Naruto while Juubidara and the others go wail on the other team. Hashi and Nagato would put up a bit of a fight, but it wouldn't be difficult to pull out a win.

Round 3: Naruto is basically the same, whereas Sasuke gets a power boost (this time he can match him). Same thing as in round 2, only it's an even easier win for the Uchiha.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » MARCO & ACE vs. RAIKAGE & KILLER BEE

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

@Dyep: And? One Bijuudama may not take out Marco and Ace, but continuous barrages definitely will, Marco's regen has a limit BTW, over time he will succumb.

Firstly, Bee would have to be bloodlusted to go straight for a full transformation and spam bijuudamas. Which means they lose round 1.

Even bloodlusted, Marco and Ace could put enough heat out to keep him too preoccupied to prep a bijuudama. If he can pull it off (certainly possible, with Raikage covering him), then they should have it.

IMO: team OP win 9/10 in round 1, team OP win 7/10 in round 2.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » KAKASHI & GUY vs. AKAINU & AOKIJI

@GeneralVan said:

Without 8 gates and Double MS: Admirals stomp

With 8 gates and Double MS: Ninjas stomp

This.

/thread

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Hiei (EOS) vs Naruto (EOS)

Seen some serious bullsh*t in this thread. I don't know enough about Hiei to make a judgement here, but some of the Naruto lowballing has been silly. Peak human physical stats? Are you joking? The likes of Gai have been effortlessly smashing through stone walls since part 1 of the series. How about Naruto lobbing giant summons around in the fight against Pain?

Saw someone attempt to make a point about Sasuke's punches, and that because they damaged Naruto he only has peak human durability. I don't see how anyone could take that seriously.

@Dyep: bijju chakra has been shown on multiple occasions to move independently to the user. Again, not necessarily saying that Hiei loses, but he'll need more than that to win this.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Tsunade, Sakura, and Kakashi vs. Hulk

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@taichokage said:

Round 1: Hulk 1 shots.

Round 2: Hulk 1 shots.

Round 3: Kakashi bfr's him.

If it's to the death though, I can't see even Mangekyou hax killing Hulk.

I agree

This. Sakura and Tsunade are non factors in all rounds, kamui saves the day.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » ESPADA vs KONOHA 13

@taichokage said:

Sasuke can't just pop an Amaterasu inside someone. It can only be within his line of vision. He does shoot it from his eye. That's why it's been dodge-able. But I'm not saying he can't beat Baraggan. His level of Chibaku Tensei ought to do the trick. In fact it could probably solo the Espada. He created 9 Pain-like balls. 1 for each Espada except Aaroneiro. For him he just taps his head and cracks it. Lol.

I had always offered that as a possibility, as you can see inside Barragan, and what with Sasuke's level of control, it might have been possible.

But yeah, stuff that. Just Chibaku tensei him and then have Naruto lob a bijuudama at it.

@5th: Yeah, same principle. Cover him with rocks, then while he's busy erasing those, hit him with something that makes Soi Fon's bankai look like a firecracker.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Madara's PS vs Ultimate Way Big

I thought Way Big's best feat was throwing Vilgax into space?

He's definitely strong enough to damage PS, but what's his durability like?

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » ESPADA vs KONOHA 13

@5th said:

Naruto and Sasuke make a fist bump and kill all of the Espada

This. Barragan will immediately implode himself when he witnesses their Madara beating bro power.

@taichokage said:

Hold on. Rasen Shuriken won't do jack. It'll be via some hax technique that Baraggan is taken out.

Sasuke plants an amaterasu in Barragan, made possible since he's all skull and bones. GG

@Jgames said:

@xBankaiChrisx: take away naruto and sasuke, and most of the espada can solo hard

Only a few of them could solo, the other 11 have come a fair way.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Sasuke Vs Juubito

@taichokage said:

Juubito had the same amount of biju chakra. He also had the Gedo Mazo. Logically he had more chakra than either Saauke or Naruto currently but it seems that Kishi is ignoring this. In fact he didn't seem to run out of stamina like Sasuke: but It would appear that Sasuke is more effective in using said power.

They both have the same level of bijuu chakra, but:

Juubito- also has gudodama + gedo mazo + bijuudamas.

Sasuke- an apparently greater mastery of the sage's powers, PS, full mastery of the rinnegan + teleportation.

It will be a good fight but with the extra boost from the bijuu I think that Sasuke takes it. I agree with you that even Sasuke in this level probably couldn't beat Madara at his best, the idea that he's as strong as the sage is a bit silly.

@nishi99 said:

@taichokage: @CerusSerenade: Juubito was only beat due to Talk no Jutsu.

This.

Juubito was winning until he started succumbing to the unstoppable power of the TNJ, not to mention the final hit from Naruto/Sasuke was only enough to weaken him sufficiently (still took everyone there in the army minus Hashirama to beat him completely).

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » galactus(weakest) vs asura+dark schneider

@Saladking: If I recall, the OP states no tech allowed, just his own might.

And at his weakest? The team take it handily. Galactus at his very worst has had some really poor showings (compared to people on DS's level, anyway).

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Aladdin vs. Jafar (Joke Battle)

@ShinobiX said:

@taichokage said:

Horrible case of mistaken identity. Aladdin won't want to hear any music for a while after this.

But to Jafar, Aladdin is "Second Rate."

Pretty much what I'd expect to see if Mr Mxyzpltk went up against a low tier reality warper.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Naruto vs A Green Nitro

I'll go with the majority on this one and say that Naruto wins after a good fight.

Side note: that final clash between Naruto and Sasuke's best moves was pretty impressive, given that Kakashi/Sakura could feel the shockwaves all the way from their position. I don't know much about Naruto geography, but I would have thought they'd be a good few miles away at least...

(I know that the Valley of the End is on the border of the Fire Country, but not sure where the final battle of the war took place)

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Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Gremmy Thoumeaux

@Zerogodlike said:

@GIRUGAMESH said:

@CosmicKnight75 said:

@akronawol17: Actually she did regrow her arm back from what I recall, and you completely missed my question. Does having a higher amount of power affect Gremmy's ability? I just dont see him doing to Ywach or Hyped up Ichigo what he did to fodder-tier Yachiru and like Quincy's, his ability is reiatsu-based to boot to further my point. Already said why Ying Yang chakra is comparable enough too.

That what I'm saying.

Ywach's power spawned Gremmy's power, therefore someone far more powerful than Ywach won't be affected so easily.

since we have no feats from ywach at all it would be folly to say kaguya is way stronger than her its also just because a being is stronger than someone in DC doesn't mean that hax wont work on them unless they have specific hax resistance.

We saw him take down Yammamoto (minus his bankai), which is the only feat he has really (that and lots of hype). Ywach has shown nothing to put himself above her, until he does then we can say that Kaguya>Ywach.

Every attack that Gremmy threw against Kenpachi would be dealt with without much trouble by Kaguya.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Gremmy Thoumeaux

@CosmicKnight75 said:

@akronawol17: Actually she did regrow her arm back from what I recall, and you completely missed my question. Does having a higher amount of power affect Gremmy's ability? I just dont see him doing to Ywach or Hyped up Ichigo what he did to fodder-tier Yachiru and like Quincy's, his ability is reiatsu-based to boot to further my point. Already said why Ying Yang chakra is comparable enough too.

That what I'm saying.

Ywach's power spawned Gremmy's power, therefore someone far more powerful than Ywach won't be affected so easily.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Gremmy Thoumeaux

@akronawol17 said:

@CosmicKnight75: the only things he did to him were simple brute-strength attacks for the most part. he could've turned his bones into cookies or made him cease to exist, yet he didn't. hell, he could've made more clones of himself yet he didn't. it was pure PIS/CIS, but with that removed, Kaguya either gets her bones turned to something brittle or turned nonexistant.

and no, he'd lose to Galactus. because he hasn't shown that level of power. but turning some braindead godess's bones into cookies? totally do'able. especially since she can't regenerate. she lost her arm, yet it stayed gone. so much for immortality, a lot of good it did Hidan as well

...Actually she got her arm back, sorry dude. There's a reason that the most uber sealing jutsu in the series is the only way to stop her for good, otherwise Hagoromo and his brother would have killed her straight and none of this would have happened.

As you've accepted, Gremmy could not use his abilities on someone like Galactus. The same applies to the likes of Ywach and Kaguya, just to a far lesser extent.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Gremmy Thoumeaux

@taichokage said:

I get it but Kaguya had no business losing either. She was supposed to exceed the Jubii in chakra and capable of performing ANY jutsu at a higher level than anyone else. If that were true, a singe Chibaku tensei would've wiped them all out. She had the same PIS as Gremmy. In my opinion worse as she was the strongest in the entire series and the closest thing to God in the verse.

No, she shouldn't have lost really, it was PIS. Her abilities were lacklustre for someone with her hype.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Gremmy Thoumeaux

@taichokage said:

What did Kaguya do that was so great again? Failed Dama and dimension jumping without even having a mind of her own. Very impressive.

They were both terrible characters. Difference is, one had more raw power than anyone else in the respective verse and required two characters (each superior to Ywach) to defeat her.

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