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Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » EOS Sakura Haruno vs Kakuzu

@CosmicKnight75: Though to be fair, we don't know the circumstances of that Kakuzu vs Hashirama thing. My guess is that Hashirama left him for dead or something and Kakuzu crawled away somewhere (wouldn't be the first time Hashirama's made that mistake).

As for this fight...a stornger, less experienced Tsunade vs Kakuzu? I think he's got this. I'm sure Sakura could one-shot any of his hearts, but he's too versatile and too experienced to lose to something like brute force from someone like her. I give him the edge here.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kakashi and Guy vs Juubi Madara

@yespls said:

1 eyed madara loses 2 eyed madara does slightly better but still loses 3 eyed madara = lol mugen tsukoyomi solo

1 eyed Madara gets crushed.

2 eyed puts up a good fight, but would still lose.

3 eyed has a chance of winning, but I think it would be damn hard for him to pull off an infinite tsukuyomi with 8 gates Gai and uber BFRing Kakashi coming at him.

@andr413 said:

Madara of course, Team have chakra limit and stamina. Madara has Ten-Tails chakra, he won't get exhausted easily

Kakashi was damaging Kaguya and keeping up with Rikudo Naruto/Sasuke, Gai's best attack was almost able to kill Madara outright. The team definitely wins round 1, beyond that it's debatable but I would still give the team the edge.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Four Espada vs. Four Hokage

@joseph619 said:

@5th said:

@joseph619: Getting out of the way? How are they going to get out of the way when there's thousands of them?

No amount of dodging is going to help them avoid MHS+ thousand armed fists coming down at them simultaneously

Those were hills and mountains, from the beginning of the fight Madara was slicing mountains, they were in an area surrounded by mountains.

Hashirama overwhelms the Espada, neither of the members have shown anything in regards of evading an attack that's at Hashirama's caliber of power

Hashirama's arms are MHS+? Did you get that from OBD? Seems like so

Buddha statue doesn't have feats to tag humans who can fly. Beating a 100m tall susanoo is irrelevant

A much crappier version of Hashirama's buddha was able to tag the Raikage, not to mention giving 4 kage a very hard time. Arguing that they're too small to hit is a poor argument.

And fun fact, it's not true that the Espada are completely outclassing them in speed either. Don't know where people get that from.

Hokages win with difficulty. Hashirama's wood constructs can tank just about anything they can throw and they have two teleporters on their team, plus far superior teamwork and intelligence. Hiruzen and Grimmjow are pretty much non factors.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Igneel runs the Naruto beast Gauntlet

@joseph619 said:

@GIRUGAMESH: How is Igneel beating Gyuki? Gyuki has survived Juubi's assault

Define 'assault'. Do you mean the Juubi whacking him around a bit in its weakest state? I guess that is a strong showing, but being able to damage Acnologia (who shrugged off most of FT's firepower combined) in a weakened state is pretty impressive too. I lean towards Igneel, assuming he's at his prime, because of that and for having the advantage of flight.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Naruto vs Juubi

@nishi99 said:

@GIRUGAMESH: It appears so when Toneri looks at the cut in the moon to see if Naruto is dead, then Naruto jumping out of it. Naruto also pushed through a similar attack head on.

Well damn. Definitely need to give this thing a watch at some point.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Naruto vs Juubi

@nishi99 said:

Since Naruto is Moon level now the Juubi doesn't stand a chance based on feats.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not like Naruto took a straight hit from that attack, did he?

@luthluth said:

The Juubi gets one shoted

I don't see the Juubi being taken out as easily as that. Remember that Madara hadn't really recovered after his fight with Gai when he was hit by that.

@joseph619 said:

@GIRUGAMESH: Hashirama binded juubi for a while. Obito fodderized Hashirama as soon as he gained consciousness. Everybody who doesn't have SO6P chakra is fodder in comparison to SO6P chakra users. All the bijuu are vulnerable to chakra binding, sealing and genjutsu. Without this limitations, bijuu are very difficult to beat (unless you have rinnegan)

Hashirama is hardly fodder (except by Kaguya/Hagoromo level characters), and I don't remember him being fodderised by Obito. There's a reason that Madara thought that he'd stand a chance of stopping Obito if he absorbed Hashirama's power.

But more on topic, Naruto would definitely take this.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Ichibei vs Kaguya

@CosmicKnight75 said:

@takashichea: God so many HST threads you cant help but get them mixed up, esepcially since Kaguya is just one of several of essentially the same thing, the Juubi. Sweet now i can debate

@ohplease said:

@kroczilla: Kaguya throws him in the acid dimension and attacks him with it. Wouldn't be long till he's nothing but bones.

Yup, but it'll take even shorter before she's face deep in ink. It's not like it takes much to get to her. Even Sakura can do it if she tries :D

The hate of Kaguya is real. Crap character though she is, still don't see her losing this.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Joke battle- Obito's fist vs Madara

@Asura_Uchiha said:

That country-level hand though

Nah man, multi continent-planet level easily.

Obito's hand >>> mugen tsukuyomi.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Igneel runs the Naruto beast Gauntlet

Igneel, in a weakened state, was able to give Acnologia a good fight (guessing that at full power they're almost equal), and he has some pretty good DC feats from what we saw (plus the advantage of flight).

Round 1: Igneel stomps.

Round 2: if he goes straight for the roar, Igneel stomps. Otherwise, he still stomps, but it might take a little longer.

Round 3: Igneel stomps as soon as he decides to go for the roar.

Round 4: Igneel wins with very little difficulty.

Round 5: Igneel wins with mid difficulty.

And he stops at round 6, putting up a good fight against Kurama but eventually going down.

Needless to say, the Juubi would crush him.

@joseph619 said:

@TheEvilManRay said:

Stops at 4 IMO, but I could be wrong

Do you think Igneel can get past Shukaku's regeneration? I mean Gamabunta cut Shukau's arms off, and later Shukaku grows them back. Legend says bijuus are immortal because of their regeneration ability

Let's see what good that does him when he's blown to sh*t. No way is Igneel losing to Shukaku.

@DeathOfWest said:

He may be able to clear shukaku, but anything above that is clearly beating him.

I can't see any possible scenario where he couldn't clear Shukaku.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Hashirama and Madara Vs Igneel and Acnologia

@GeneralVan said:

They get the wood.

Hahaha, this. FT dragons, meet multiple wood dragons.

Mass scale wood techniques from both members on the team + PS + Hashirama's sage power means the dragons lose this.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Yhwach vs Kaguya and Madara

@CosmicKnight75 said:

All this talk about Kaguya's attacks or how much or what Yhwach can or can't take like he's standing still and doing nothing. Let's talk about how a glass canon like Kaguya fares against any of of hits of a guy whose casually above Kenpachi who currently eats huge meteors for breakfast.

Kaguya is a glass cannon...how?

And once again, Ywach vs threads are pointless until we see the limits of The Almighty (and which version of getsuga tenshou beats him).

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Naruto vs Juubi

@joseph619 said:

@ohplease said:

Naruto wins with little difficulty. Wait a minute, no sealing? How can he win this then?

Many fodders (not Naruto) can beat juubi with stupid plot device like sealing. I want to see how somebody can beat Juubi without any sealing or genjutsu (which are weakness of tailed beasts)

Both characters have enough good feats and physical stats. It should be a good match

Like who? Which fodders can take down the Juubi?

Also, this depends which version of the Juubi. If this is prime Juubi (the one that Hagoromo and Hamura fought), then Naruto quickly gets overwhelmed.

If it's the version that the alliance fought, then my money's on Naruto; if the 4 hokage were able to contain it, then Naruto should have the upper hand.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » 6-Tails Naruto VS. Ulquiorra

@joseph619 said:

Ulquiorra stomps

KCM Naruto would be a better match

KCM Naruto would lose as well.

@luthluth said:

@ohplease said:

@luthluth: Woah, you think Lanza is mountain level? I'm not saying it isn't, but it sure didn't look like that in the manga.

As for this match, KN6 has a decent chance with speed equalized. The only thing that can stop him is probably Lanza if it connects. Meanwhile, Ulquiorra gets heavily pressured by KN6 till he loses probably. I can't think of anything that would give him an advantage besides Lanza, which isn't the best attack to rely on.

Ichigo was on a rieatsu-sucking treadmill for almost a day when training with the vizards and didn't tire, yet he was tired when running to Las Notches when it was seen to be very large from a distance in the manga. And people think its town level? Really? I could jog a town level distance in 3 minutes, jesus. If you take pixal scaling into consideration Lanza would be a few km in diameter however consider the volume and the height of the blast. That lanza blast should have the explosive force to at least vaporize rock(seeing how Ulquiorras lesser ceros could do just that) and its sure as hell larger than the mountain Bambina threw, therefore Ulquiorra is casually Mountain level. Naruto is a mindless berserker with no form of strategy in that mode, Orochimaru and Pain exposed him with intelligence, Ulqiuorra has flight advantage untop of it, he takes this.

This.

Ulquiorra releases and proceeds to win without much trouble, he has him beat in durability, intelligence, DC (with lanza) and has the advantage of flight.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Yhwach

@5th said:

@GIRUGAMESH said:

@Zerogodlike: Does Bach seem like the type to leave a potential threat alive if he can help it? I don't think so. In my mind, Bach (at least, with his eyes closed) is incapable of killing Aizen.

'kaguya is only highly resistant to chakra based techiques'

Sorry, what? When was this stated? Unless I'm mistaken, I think you might be getting confused. She can absorb any chakra based technique, but that has nothing to do with her durability. Fact is, she was taking hits from attacks with better DC than anything in Bleach and getting right back up.

Again, not saying she wins, because I want to see the limits of Bach's power. But you need to stop lowballing.

@5th said:

Obito has senjutsu chakra, as does Black Zetsu, it wasn't a surprise that he managed to stab Madara considering Juubi kins have a weakness to Senjutsu chakra.

Actually that was complete PIS. Taking hits from 8 gates Gai and wanting to go for more, but can't take a casual hand stab from Obito/Zetsu? Terrible writing, I'm afraid.

You're right on that aspect of the fight, Madara being defeated by a hand stab by Zetsu was PIS

Honestly, the manga would've gone a lot better had Madara stayed as the final villain before Sasuke

I think pretty much everyone would agree that Kaguya should have never happened. At all.

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Battles » Aizen runs the Royal guard gauntlet

Aizen clears the first 4 rounds, then gets loses to the oldest shinigami alive after a good fight.

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Battles » Hagoromo Otsutsuki vs Toneri and Naruto

@DarkSlumber said:

@joseph619: Actually it was never stated that he was equal to Madara. What was actually stated was that he had as much Chakra as Madara. It was stated somewhere on the Naruto Forums by a person that saw the movie.

I haven't seen the film yet, was he referring to Juubidara or regular Madara?

I'm leaning towards the team atm.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Hagoromo Otsutsuki vs Toneri and Naruto

@akronawol17: I think he just said that his mother's might was greater than anyone's, including his own, though I would have thought they were both damn close to each other.

Kaguya > Hagoromo

Naruto + Sasuke = Hagoromo

With a bit of help from Kakashi and Sakura, Naruto and Sakura were able to beat Kaguya.

So I would have thought that prime Hagoromo (10 tails jin) would be very close to Kaguya.

But how strong is Naruto in The Last? Do they say if he got weaker/stronger?

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Whitebeard vs Yhwach

@GoldenStar66: You realise that people have been comparing Yhwach to the likes of Kaguya, Toneri and EoS Naruto, right?

In his current form, Yhwach is in a different league to anyone in OP. You could throw in Garp and Akainu to help Whitebeard out and he'd still win.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Toneri vs EoS Sasuke

@SonNeko said:

Well if Naruto beat him Sasuke could do the same.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,259 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Yhwach vs Aizen

There's a simple reason nobody has done this yet: it's one-sided.

Round 1:

Aizen, by his own admission, is weaker than Yammamoto. After sealing his bankai, Yhwach beat Yamma with very little difficulty (though Yamma was slightly battle worn by that point). If Aizen attempts to use bankai, it'll just be sealed the same way.

Eyes-closed Yhwach >> Shikai Yammamoto > Aizen. In terms of power, Aizen is outclassed by the other two. Ichigo's dad was holding his own against base Aizen, and kyoka suigetsu seems of limited use against people on this level (as seen in the Yamma vs Aizen scene). At any rate, Yhwach should win with no more than mid difficulty.

Round 2:

Yhwach stomps. In his fully awakened form, he took out the oldest, strongest shinigami alive (aside from maybe EoS Ichigo). He's currently the strongest character in Bleach. That's all there is to it.

Round 3:

See above.

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