FalconC2 (Level 9)

“ A king must live more vivid than any other and be a figure for all to admire! The king is the one who collects the envy of all his heroes and stands as their guide! Therefore, the king is not alone! ”
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Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Phoenix Wright VS Perry Mason: In the Court of Law

Perry Mason

VS

Phoenix Wright

It's OBJECTION TIME ladies and gentlemen. Two famous fictional lawyers duke it out in the court of law!

Both Perry and Phoenix have their own respective clients, and both Perry and Phoenix believe without-a-doubt that their client is the innocent one. They are given a week of preparation to interrogate witnesses, gather evidence and whatever other material they need in the upcoming case. Their objective is to prove that the other lawyer's client is the one guilty of the crime. The crime in question is murder, and if they fail to either convict the opposing client or force them to confess to the crime they lose.

The court is in session, and it's judgement time. Begin.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@Job: I've given you scans, have you even bothered to go over that other link I gave you to CBM? The source Destiny provided seems reliable, but the official ranking Marvel gave Thor seems dubious. I need to look over the sources of those other power grids, and if they say the same thing. Marvel seems to be wonky regarding them.

You've also used the Dragon Ball wikia which can also be used by anyone and edited by anyone, including you. So, don't go chastising me about that stuff unless you want to be that one pot calling the kettle black.

EDIT: Also, stop it with the nonsense. Those were planetoids in Glory's hands, whether you like it or not.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@Destinyheroknight: Thanks, I guess. I'll look it over.

EDIT: The marvel wikia got (or at least, it says that it did) the official stats from The Official Marvel Handbook (2004) and Thor: Asgard's Avenger (2011). I'll look for those and see if there are any discrepancies. They are also official works from Marvel as well though, so if it wasn't because of someone's edit, and if Thor was ranked as that, they may also be liable.

Unless the Marvel site you showed me can also be edited by anyone, then it wouldn't be reliable either.

EDIT 2: It's also weird (the Grid Marvel.com has), because it ranks Thor as 7 in energy projection, which means he has control over all forms of energy. I don't believe that's correct. He has control over a few--electricity, some forms of magic, and his hammer has a few nifty energy tricks, but they put him in the same rank in that area as Galactus and other abstract beings.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

If you want more evidence, it's more or less stated by Marvel itself: http://marvel.wikia.com/Thor_%28Thor_Odinson%29

Thor's official statistics are...

Intelligence: 2

Strength: 7

Speed: 7

Durability: 6

Energy Projection: 6

Fighting Skills: 4

To explain what that means you have to look at the Power Grid.

A seven in speed means warp speed, or transcending light-speed. In other words, faster than light. A seven in strength means that his strength is incalculable and in excess of a hundred tons.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post, but I felt this necessary and I didn't want to edit my previous post again.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

Isn't that cute, Job is acting as if he has some sort of in-depth knowledge regarding Marvel when, again, he's forgetting to note that the Sentry's and Molecule Man's "Molecule Manipulation" is so powerful that it is basically reality warping.

He want feats though, and I have given him the Glory feat which he has misinterpreted and refused to acknowledge. He also misinterpreted the other feats as well, how quaint once again.

Marvel states no one is FTL without going through Hyperspace.

Where is this BS stated? Where? Or, are you just lying again? Thor can use hyperspace, that is true, but he is also FTL with the hammer.

How is me saying a scan floating around in which people claim superman is destroying a planet, was actually from a virtual reality world, that was collapsing (the truth) downplaying superman? Seriously, stop replying to this thread. You have had nothing to add since you've entered. You expect people to think Thor is the size of a planet just so you can wank Glory, and now this drivel?

I am not wanking Glory. You are greatly underestimating Glory, and obfuscating the truth. I already showed the scan of it holding planetoids. Have you even read the text that came along with it? Thor was using the winds of a thousand worlds and destroying the fabric of reality itself with it, and Glory roars literally became swarms of bugs that attacked a person's soul and mind. That moment of Glory grabbing Thor was most likely another of its psychic assaults or it messing with reality/shape shifting--whatever.

All you've proven is that you haven't actually read it. Either that, or you don't have the common sense necessary to understand what was happening in them.

Here are more feats, and let me remind you that the main 616 marvel continuity never had a full reboot so they are all still canon. Remember, read the text in the scans: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatmanvsWolverine/news/?a=47839

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

So, let's see here. Job is omitting and twisting details about both Thor and the Sentry, proving that's there's another character out there that he doesn't know squat about. I wonder if he even knows that the Sentry is also a powerful reality warper, as evident with his out matching Molecule-Man at his own game. And that The Sentry had a habit of flying to the sun in sort periods of time, and tossing people into it; proving that he's FTL. Why am I not surprised? I wonder if he will claim that Goku can beat the Flash or Superma--oh, wait--he already downplayed Superman as well.
Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

They dont even bother to read their own scans, that end up proving me right. Not one of them have yet to name a single feat from Thor that is actually still canon, other Than him getting beat by Glory.

You're wrong, Thor beat Glory. In the first fight, Thor greatly weakened Glory with his last attack with Mjölnir forcing Glory to take on a smaller and weaker form. The recoil of that blast sent Thor flying through space and back to earth, crashing into it. In the second fight, what was left of Glory came to Earth and fought Thor. The Thunder God finished Glory off then. Here it is, but you're probably going to misinterpret it as well.

The only one not reading the scans here is you Job.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@Job said:

@FalconC2: Still no scans?

I already showed them, unless you're talking about the scans of Thor's second fight with Glory. Unless you want to continue to misinterpret the first fight's feats.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

Why don't you try being less of a lying twit then, if you want me to stop annoying you?

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@Job said:

@FalconC2 said:

How is it a lie? Glory's done the aforementioned things, and in the second fight with Thor he took on a vastly different form.

Post one, just one single scan of glory reality warping. Dont even bother looking because they dont exist and you know it. Glory changed forms because it was weakened by its own blast being redirected at it. It says so, on freaking panel, so how you got it was Glory reality warping, is beyond me. Oh wait, you're the idiot who thinks thor is the size of a planet and was a light year away from glory. SO i guess anything is possible in your mind. Go waste someone elses time with @ replies. You and i are done.

You're going to argue after seeing that entire fight, that Glory is not capable of warping reality? I see. You're more of a fool than I thought. And you're butchering my words. I never said that Thor was the size of a planet. You just did though.

Job, I think you need to work on your reading comprehension.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

How is it a lie? Glory's done the aforementioned things, and in the second fight with Thor he took on a vastly different form.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@Job said:

clearly not planet sized or is Thor planet sized too?
clearly not planet sized or is Thor planet sized too?
@FalconC2 said:

I would like to remind people that Glory is a god/reality warper

Lie


misinterpret it either way and say that Glory is not planet sized and what not.




We can see the planets/planetoids he's holding. I would also like remind people that planets/planetoids are the same thing more or less

They arent Now sign off and stop wasting peoples times with idiotic nonsense as if they cant see with their own eyes that Glory and thor arent light years away from each other (a lie to try and make it seem the planetoids that glory is holding are larger )

No, you're the only one lying here and Glory is capable of reality warping and shape-shifting. It's a powerful Herald-level being, and possibly even greater than that. That also just proves that you know nothing at all of Glory. Where is the proof that Glory is not a reality warper? Also, have you even read the text with the scans? The fight was described in mythic detail, and Thor was destroying reality with the winds of a thousands worlds (whilst in space no less), and it spoke of Glory as the amalgamation of over ten-thousand gods. Its roars become bugs that attack a person's soul and mind for instance. It's right there, in the picture you snatched from me.

That's some non-euclidean craziness.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

Here's the rest of the fight, if anyone's interested.

I would like to remind people that Glory is a god/reality warper so the sense of scale would obviously be weird. Of course, people are going to misinterpret it either way and say that Glory is not planet sized and what not. We can see the planets/planetoids he's holding. I would also like remind people that planets/planetoids are the same thing more or less; just of differing sizes. Once again, some people are going to spout something silly to counter that, which will make little to no sense because they run on a different perception of reality than we do.

You could classify them as a variation of zealot, known simply as the "fanboy." Be forewarned, arguing with this species of creature is something akin to trying to teach a brick wall poetry and the fine arts. It is fairly difficult, and requires infinite patience and diligence. It is a truly daunting effort. My prayers go out to anyone who attempts this venture. Good night folks, this is Falcon media signing off.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

Do you thinking cursing like an immature idiot is going to make you not wrong? Thor didn't get punched by glory so you're sitting here wasting my time lying about a feat thats Moot. I dont care what you think at this point. They're planetoids. I actually read the comic series you insufferable bore. Thor and surfer are not light years away.

I am angry because you are spewing biased nonsense, and because you have absolutely no sense of scale. That, and you do not understand what a planetoid is or looks like. You twit. You are the one misunderstanding the scan and Thor's feats.

I am not lying. I am merely pointing out the truth.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Willow vs Vegetto

@ohgodwhy: You do know that speed is equalized, right?

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

I already posted the scan showing Thor was bigger than the Planetoids Glory was holding making this entire retort irrelevant. I wasn't talking about the rocks and you know i wasn't talking about the rocks. Thor is quiet clearly the same size as the Planetoid Glory is holding. And he is quite clearly not that much smaller than glory. Meaning Glory is nowhere near the size it would require to hold earths moon. Thor and silver surfer are not Light years away from Glory, are you kidding me right now? If this is what you come back with, you mind as well end this conversation now.

I already went over how that was complete and utter bullshit. Those "planetoids" next to the Surfer and Thor are not fucking planetoids. They're space rocks, asteroids, whatever ever the fuck you want to call them. And if you just fucking looked at the scan again you would how fucking see far away Thor and the Surfer are from Glory. You fucking get it Job?

The things in Glory's hands are the planetoids, along with the big planet shaped things in the distance. The little brown rocks next to the Surfer and Thor are not.

Glory is a also a God/reality warper, the sense of scale would of course be all sorts of weird.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

Oh good lord, you people cant even be original in your bias. Spare me this atmosphere nonsense, you've picked up. After 6 miles from the ground (30,000ft) there is no more oxygen to breath in earths atmosphere. And the atmposphere that in space (lacks any oxygen), is so thin that's its pretty much non existent. So learn 4th grade science before you start listening to DBZ deniest, insane retorts. I rank this retort right up there with dbz earth is smaller because their continents are different.

Frieza would disagree as he has almost drowned Goku before. Goku and the Z crew need air, there's no getting past that. The only characters from DBZ that can survive in space indefinitely are Frieza, Cell, and Buu IIRC.

Those are planetoids, aka large comets. Glory is grabbing planetoids, not planets. He's not even large enough in scale to Thor to grab planets.

Planetoids can range from the size of the Earth's moon to the size of Jupiter. Earth, for instance, is a planetoid. If Glory can toss them around and hold them in his hands like that he would at the very least be the size of a planet. If not bigger. Also, those pieces of rock (they are not planetoids) next to Thor look nothing like the things in Glory's hands. They are not that large, and do not not appear to have any sort of powerful gravitational field. They're just small asteroids, they do not even look like planetoids. Thor and Surfer are both light years away from Glory, and yet it still looks fucking huge in comparison. It would be even bigger once they got closer to it.

Once again, this is 2012. Not 1969. Thor, nor Hulk have the power to destroy planets with brute strength. Not gladiator, not silver surfer, not beta ray bill. Like i said, you people focus so much on scans from 50 years ago, and yet not one of you seems to be even remotely aware of the power levels of today's superheroes.

I think you are the one underestimating them, greatly.

Read a comic instead of grabbing edited scans out of respect threads.

And now with the accusations and arrogance, how quaint. How about you follow your own advice, and actually do some research on the characters?

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

And, the fight itself was not impressive at all? Thor shrugging off Glory's attacks to his mind and soul, flying through space, diving right into Glory; the creature that was crushing planets in its hands. It proves that current Thor can at least fight planet sized creatures and hold his own against them.
Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

I said one of his weaker incarnations, not the weakest. Anyway, isn't Thor's fight with Glory (the alien god-thing) fairly recent? That showcased a lot of power.
Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Willow vs Vegetto

@Job: That's why I put the IIRC, if what you said is true then, yes, she wins with speed equalized if she gets the first shot in with that.

EDIT: Though, it all depends on who gets the first shot in then. They could both one-shot the other in this scenario. My money is still on Vegito though, cause any of his attacks can kill Willow whilst only a few of Willow's spells can effect him. If Willow doesn't resort to the soul-steal spell immediately she would lose.

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