FalconC2 (Level 9)

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Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@Job said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Job: He has gone faster than Mach 32... as other users above already proofed it...

but in fighting skills Goku is superior than Thor....

He hasnt.

Other users proved they dont know the context of their own scans or as to wtf theyre talking about.

@FalconC2: i didnt read a single word of your of what you had to say. And this is the last thing i have to say to you in this thread.

Your butt-hurt is showing Job.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Goku vs Thor

@Job said:

@leofull99: You're right, me of all people knows nothing about hyperspace. /sarcasm Hyperspace is achieved by opening a portal to another dimension . Hyperspace is completely useless in a fight. And i dont get my information from wikis you twit. Unlike you who copy pasted an entire wiki entry in his Op. The scan is from marvels official comic . Thor is mach 32 flight speed. Now dont waste your last post today saying something wrong again.

Coming from you, that is most likely a misinterpretation or a straw-man. That scan also ranked Thor a seven in terms of speed on the power grid, in other words FTL or instantaneous, even though it said he could fly at mach thirty two--contradicting itself.

Marvel has a track record with wonky power-leveling so it's best to go by feats, rather than with inconsistent profile pages. Thor can out-fly Ego and cross an entire solar system in a few moments. At the very least, Thor would need extreme FTL reactions/reflexes for him to be able to fly at those speeds effectively, if not outright FTL movement speed, which Thor most likely has with Mjolnir. That hammer also has a plethora of exotic abilities to go with it. Thor does not need the Odin Force to win this fight.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Ippo Makunochi Vs Kenichi Shirahama

@ohgodwhy said:

@CallmeBrent: Do they? I'm not particularly familiar with Ippo but I thought they were just World Class Fighters. Are you sure the Super Sayain effects weren't just effects to make them look flashy.

Most of the upper tier guys in HSD are capable of taking on entire armies on their own. Kenichi's no where near that but it still goes to show just superhuman some of the characters in HSD are.

Ippo is superhuman, and other fighters like Mamoru can beat up bears with their bare hands. No pun intended. Hajime no Ippo characters are not as physically impressive as HSD characters though. They haven't casually dodged bullets like master-class fighters are prone to doing, or thrown/cut up tanks and other large objects/vehicles, and destroyed buildings and towers with their strength.

Kenichi himself was able to survive a fight with a master-class fighter, even managing to block one of his blows. I'd give this to him.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Roberta (Black Lagoon) vs Jeremiah Gottwald (Code Geass)

How durable was Gottwald? Cause Roberta has a lot of guns, and explosives. If Roberta was farther away she could snipe him. If Gottwald is able to tank that artillery he could close in for some CQC. Not sure how that would turn out.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Roberta (Black Lagoon) vs Jeremiah Gottwald (Code Geass)

Alright then, what about Gottwald? I know he can beat Sayoko, and has sword blades attached to his arms. I also remember Sayoko's throwing knives being pretty useless against him.

If Roberta has all the artillery she had in the la muerta arc she can probably just toss a grenade in his face or something.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Roberta (Black Lagoon) vs Jeremiah Gottwald (Code Geass)

Not even Roberta? Well, that's all I got cause it's been a while since I read Black Lagoon and I'm not sure either.

Does Gottwald have anything to compare?

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Roberta (Black Lagoon) vs Jeremiah Gottwald (Code Geass)

It was a bowie knife that she shattered in her teeth, now that I remember. She also broke Sawyer's chainsaw with her bare hands.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure the top-tiers of Black Lagoon are bullet-timers, in that they can dodge bullets.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Roberta (Black Lagoon) vs Jeremiah Gottwald (Code Geass)

Tempted to say Gottwald wins because of LOYALTY and ORANGES. But, aside from his fight with Sayoko, I don't remember much. I know Roberta can shatter swords with her teeth, and is a bullet-timer.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

Another thing I would like to point out in this scan Job shared, is that it does not say Thor is limited to just mach 32 but just that Thor can fly at that speed. More importantly, it also comes with an Official Power Grid. What does this Grid say? That Thor's speed is ranked at seven. What does that mean again? Oh, that's right. It means FTL speed. You forgot to mention that, didn't you Job? How quaint.

Either way, it's probably best to go by feats and from what I've seen with the Ego feat; Thor is FTL by a very considerable margin with Mjolnir.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Hideyoshi VS Oda Nobunaga

Oda does have that demonic familiar as well, that would be problematic for Hideyoshi.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Hideyoshi VS Oda Nobunaga

Hideyoshi

VS

Oda Nobunaga

This is from the animation of Sengoku Basara, and the OVAs.

Anyway, the two main antagonists from Sengoku Basara duke it out. They are both in character, and are ready to tear each other to bits because of their conflicting ambitions.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@shonen: I did not say that, shonen-kun. Thor speed-blitzes, and tears them to bits.

@Job: Oh, Job, you kidder you.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

Go ahead. I don't mind.

Job-kun.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@FalconC2 said:

@FalconC2 said:

@FalconC2 said:

Isn't that cute, Job is acting as if he has some sort of in-depth knowledge regarding Marvel when, again, he's forgetting to note that the Sentry's and Molecule Man's "Molecule Manipulation" is so powerful that it is basically reality warping.

He want feats though, and I have given him the Glory feat which he has misinterpreted and refused to acknowledge. He also misinterpreted the other feats as well, how quaint once again.

Marvel states no one is FTL without going through Hyperspace.

Where is this BS stated? Where? Or, are you just lying again? Thor can use hyperspace, that is true, but he is also FTL with the hammer.

How is me saying a scan floating around in which people claim superman is destroying a planet, was actually from a virtual reality world, that was collapsing (the truth) downplaying superman? Seriously, stop replying to this thread. You have had nothing to add since you've entered. You expect people to think Thor is the size of a planet just so you can wank Glory, and now this drivel?

I am not wanking Glory. You are greatly underestimating Glory, and obfuscating the truth. I already showed the scan of it holding planetoids. Have you even read the text that came along with it? Thor was using the winds of a thousand worlds and destroying the fabric of reality itself with it, and Glory roars literally became swarms of bugs that attacked a person's soul and mind. That moment of Glory grabbing Thor was most likely another of its psychic assaults or it messing with reality/shape shifting--whatever.

All you've proven is that you haven't actually read it. Either that, or you don't have the common sense necessary to understand what was happening in them.

Here are more feats, and let me remind you that the main 616 marvel continuity never had a full reboot so they are all still canon. Remember, read the text in the scans: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatmanvsWolverine/news/?a=47839

Second verse, same as the first.

It will be a cold day in hell before I stop posting this, et cetera.

I might as well add some more though.

Thor staggers/moves Mikaboshi with a blast of lighting.

This is its true form, and it manhandled Skyfather-level beings like Zeus. It also credited to destroying/absorbing a large portion of the entire Marvel Multi-Verse. 98% of it, if I remember correctly.

Thor VS Phoenix Force, the thing that eats suns and destroys solar systems.

Click on the images to enlarge them.

Thor manages to make Galactus budge. You know, the same guy who eats planets and has mastery over the Power Cosmic.

I've heard you mention something about Thor saving Rulk from the event horizon of a black hole as being a hoax. Well, you're wrong Job.

That's a FTL feat, am I right?

Thor out-races Ego the living planet. Also, another FTL feat.

Click to enlarge the images. So, there you go.

EDIT:

Hyperspace

"A dimension accessible from Earth whose physical laws differ from Earth's in the following ways. First, it is possible to surpass the speed of light within hyperspace. Second, hyperspace is "warped" in comparison to Earth's dimension so that the distance between two points in hyperspace might be immensely shorter than the distance between the equivalent points in Earth's dimension. Interstellar travel is impractical for any sentient race that has not discovered the means off traveling through hyperspace in order to reach a destination in their own dimension. Hyperspace is also known as sub-space (which is sometimes confused with the Negative Zone) and warp-space. It is accessible through naturally occurring or artificially created nexuses in space called space warps."

--Marvel.com, Glossary

In other words, you gave me just what I needed Job. Hyperspace is FTL, or rather the point where it is achieved. You see, that explains a lot. Thor having the ability to enter hyperspace basically means he can move at FTL speeds. Thanks a lot Job.

You made my job so much easier.

@FalconC2 said:

@FalconC2 said:

@shonen: I've gone over how inconsistent Marvel's power leveling is, and I trust that scan with mach "32" about as much as I trust the Power Grid system. Which is not at all. We have to go by feats here, shonen.

I've already shown the FTL feat with Ego the living planet. The only ones in denial here are you two. Now that I think about it, the only one mentioned being in hyperspace was Ego itself and not Thor. After all, Thor was referring to Ego when he was talking about hyperspace. There's a good chance Thor doesn't even need hyperspace then, to go at FTL speeds.

"and where did he acquire the means to access hyperspace?" Thor is referring to Ego, not himself.

And here's their race:

When in it, does Thor enter hyperspace exactly? Either it happens so quickly that it doesn't matter, or Thor is capable of FTL without hyperspace. It also mentions him crossing from one edge of the solar system to the other end of it. That race looked like it only took a few moments, so I'm guessing Thor crossed that distance in a few seconds or something.

That would be thousands of times the speed of light.

The only ones spouting nonsense here, are Job and shonen.

EDIT:

We went over how you posted links to a site that's not officially licensed by marvel. I posted Thor's official Marvel Stats from their Official Guide Books.. I know you're not smart enough to know the difference.

That's a lie. You have no access to the official guide book, only to the main site which is unreliable because of its inconsistencies. I've went over Mikaboshi on there, and I know Squirrel Girl is a joke character, but it still doesn't change the fact they officially ranked her with top stats. They're not reliable in a serious debate/match. Apparently, you can't comprehend what I was trying to say.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@FalconC2 said:

@FalconC2 said:

Isn't that cute, Job is acting as if he has some sort of in-depth knowledge regarding Marvel when, again, he's forgetting to note that the Sentry's and Molecule Man's "Molecule Manipulation" is so powerful that it is basically reality warping.

He want feats though, and I have given him the Glory feat which he has misinterpreted and refused to acknowledge. He also misinterpreted the other feats as well, how quaint once again.

Marvel states no one is FTL without going through Hyperspace.

Where is this BS stated? Where? Or, are you just lying again? Thor can use hyperspace, that is true, but he is also FTL with the hammer.

How is me saying a scan floating around in which people claim superman is destroying a planet, was actually from a virtual reality world, that was collapsing (the truth) downplaying superman? Seriously, stop replying to this thread. You have had nothing to add since you've entered. You expect people to think Thor is the size of a planet just so you can wank Glory, and now this drivel?

I am not wanking Glory. You are greatly underestimating Glory, and obfuscating the truth. I already showed the scan of it holding planetoids. Have you even read the text that came along with it? Thor was using the winds of a thousand worlds and destroying the fabric of reality itself with it, and Glory roars literally became swarms of bugs that attacked a person's soul and mind. That moment of Glory grabbing Thor was most likely another of its psychic assaults or it messing with reality/shape shifting--whatever.

All you've proven is that you haven't actually read it. Either that, or you don't have the common sense necessary to understand what was happening in them.

Here are more feats, and let me remind you that the main 616 marvel continuity never had a full reboot so they are all still canon. Remember, read the text in the scans: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatmanvsWolverine/news/?a=47839

Second verse, same as the first.

It will be a cold day in hell before I stop posting this, et cetera.

I might as well add some more though.

Thor staggers/moves Mikaboshi with a blast of lighting.

This is its true form, and it manhandled Skyfather-level beings like Zeus. It also credited to destroying/absorbing a large portion of the entire Marvel Multi-Verse. 98% of it, if I remember correctly.

Thor VS Phoenix Force, the thing that eats suns and destroys solar systems.

Click on the images to enlarge them.

Thor manages to make Galactus budge. You know, the same guy who eats planets and has mastery over the Power Cosmic.

I've heard you mention something about Thor saving Rulk from the event horizon of a black hole as being a hoax. Well, you're wrong Job.

That's a FTL feat, am I right?

Thor out-races Ego the living planet. Also, another FTL feat.

Click to enlarge the images. So, there you go.

EDIT:

Hyperspace

"A dimension accessible from Earth whose physical laws differ from Earth's in the following ways. First, it is possible to surpass the speed of light within hyperspace. Second, hyperspace is "warped" in comparison to Earth's dimension so that the distance between two points in hyperspace might be immensely shorter than the distance between the equivalent points in Earth's dimension. Interstellar travel is impractical for any sentient race that has not discovered the means off traveling through hyperspace in order to reach a destination in their own dimension. Hyperspace is also known as sub-space (which is sometimes confused with the Negative Zone) and warp-space. It is accessible through naturally occurring or artificially created nexuses in space called space warps."

--Marvel.com, Glossary

In other words, you gave me just what I needed Job. Hyperspace is FTL, or rather the point where it is achieved. You see, that explains a lot. Thor having the ability to enter hyperspace basically means he can move at FTL speeds. Thanks a lot Job.

You made my job so much easier.

@FalconC2 said:

@FalconC2 said:

@shonen: I've gone over how inconsistent Marvel's power leveling is, and I trust that scan with mach "32" about as much as I trust the Power Grid system. Which is not at all. We have to go by feats here, shonen.

I've already shown the FTL feat with Ego the living planet. The only ones in denial here are you two. Now that I think about it, the only one mentioned being in hyperspace was Ego itself and not Thor. After all, Thor was referring to Ego when he was talking about hyperspace. There's a good chance Thor doesn't even need hyperspace then, to go at FTL speeds.

"and where did he acquire the means to access hyperspace?" Thor is referring to Ego, not himself.

And here's their race:

When in it, does Thor enter hyperspace exactly? Either it happens so quickly that it doesn't matter, or Thor is capable of FTL without hyperspace. It also mentions him crossing from one edge of the solar system to the other end of it. That race looked like it only took a few moments, so I'm guessing Thor crossed that distance in a few seconds or something.

That would be thousands of times the speed of light.

The only ones spouting nonsense here, are Job and shonen.

EDIT:

We went over how you posted links to a site that's not officially licensed by marvel. I posted Thor's official Marvel Stats from their Official Guide Books.. I know you're not smart enough to know the difference.

That's a lie. You have no access to the official guide book, only to the main site which is unreliable because of its inconsistencies. I've went over Mikaboshi on there, and I know Squirrel Girl is a joke character, but it still doesn't change the fact they officially ranked her with top stats. They're not reliable in a serious debate/match. Apparently, you can't comprehend what I was trying to say.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@shonen: I'll repeat, where does it state that he entered hyperspace? Also, if the transfer from normal space to hyperspace is too quick or instantaneous it's a moot point.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@Job said:

@shonen said:

@FalconC2 said:

@shonen: I've gone over how inconsistent Marvel's power leveling is, and I trust that scan with mach "32" about as much as I trust the Power Grid system. Which is not at all. We have to go by feats here, shonen.

I've already shown the FTL feat with Ego the living planet. The only ones in denial here are you two. Now that I think about it, the only one mentioned being in hyperspace was Ego itself and not Thor. After all, Thor was referring to Ego when he was talking about hyperspace. There's a good chance Thor doesn't even need hyperspace then, to go at FTL speeds.

Scan with ergo is clearly hyperspace.

This dude is off his meds. I honestly think we're getting trolled. There's no way he's serious.

Excuse me, but have you actually shown Thor entering hyperspace at all in the Ego feat/race? That race with Ego obviously proves Thor's FTL speed but you're just too damn thick to get it.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@FalconC2 said:

@shonen: I've gone over how inconsistent Marvel's power leveling is, and I trust that scan with mach "32" about as much as I trust the Power Grid system. Which is not at all. We have to go by feats here, shonen.

I've already shown the FTL feat with Ego the living planet. The only ones in denial here are you two. Now that I think about it, the only one mentioned being in hyperspace was Ego itself and not Thor. After all, Thor was referring to Ego when he was talking about hyperspace. There's a good chance Thor doesn't even need hyperspace then, to go at FTL speeds.

"and where did he acquire the means to access hyperspace?" Thor is referring to Ego, not himself.

And here's their race:

When in it, does Thor enter hyperspace exactly? Either it happens so quickly that it doesn't matter, or Thor is capable of FTL without hyperspace. It also mentions him crossing from one edge of the solar system to the other end of it. That race looked like it only took a few moments, so I'm guessing Thor crossed that distance in a few seconds or something.

That would be thousands of times the speed of light.

The only ones spouting nonsense here, are Job and shonen.

EDIT:

We went over how you posted links to a site that's not officially licensed by marvel. I posted Thor's official Marvel Stats from their Official Guide Books.. I know you're not smart enough to know the difference.

That's a lie. You have no access to the official guide book, only to the main site which is unreliable because of its inconsistencies. I've went over Mikaboshi on there, and I know Squirrel Girl is a joke character, but it still doesn't change the fact they officially ranked her with top stats. They're not reliable in a serious debate/match. Apparently, you can't comprehend what I was trying to say.

Post by FalconC2 (377 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@shonen: I've gone over how inconsistent Marvel's power leveling is, and I trust that scan with mach "32" about as much as I trust the Power Grid system. Which is not at all. We have to go by feats here, shonen.

I've already shown the FTL feat with Ego the living planet. The only ones in denial here are you two. Now that I think about it, the only one mentioned being in hyperspace was Ego itself and not Thor. After all, Thor was referring to Ego when he was talking about hyperspace. There's a good chance Thor doesn't even need hyperspace then, to go at FTL speeds.

"and where did he acquire the means to access hyperspace?" Thor is referring to Ego, not himself.

And here's their race:

When in it, does Thor enter hyperspace exactly? Either it happens so quickly that it doesn't matter, or Thor is capable of FTL without hyperspace. It also mentions him crossing from one edge of the solar system to the other end of it. That race looked like it only took a few moments, so I'm guessing Thor crossed that distance in a few seconds or something.

That would be thousands of times the speed of light.

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