FalconC2 (Level 9)

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Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Iskander (Fate/Zero) VS Letzte Bataillon (Hellsing)

@Dream: How many feats do they have to go with this though? I mean, have they actually been hit by nukes and that other stuff you mentioned when in their materialized forms and tanked them, or is it just conjecture? I can understand if they quickly shift to their spirit forms to do this, but to tank that kind of power outright... not so much.

What if it they faced someone who's powers were scientific in origin, but so advanced that it was indistinguishable from magic? If, for instance, Zero or Megaman were to fight a servant; would they be unable to effect them? I mean, at the top of my head, I can remember several of their skills that just can't be considered conventional, such as Dark Hold that stops time. I doubt that can be considered conventional, even though it has robotic/scientific origins.

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Battles » Iskander (Fate/Zero) VS Letzte Bataillon (Hellsing)

@Dream said:

Pretty much, any weapon or attack that lacks magical or holy properties would be incapable of harming a Heroic Spirit/ Servant. Physical attacks wouldn't work either since the battalion armies were vampires artificially created through science.

What's the definition of conventional then? For instance, if there was a gun that could shoot lightning or miniature singularities would that still be considered useless if it was created through science? Would that still be conventional? I just find that to be a bit sketchy. Sure, when they're in their spirit forms they can't be effected because of their intangibility and such. But outside of that, when they're in their material forms, why can't they be effected?

Also, even if that was true, the battalion vampires were created using Mina's/Alucard's blood as a template, IIRC. They also perform blatantly supernatural feats, such as walking up and down the sides of walls as if gravity is non-existent. This immunity to conventional means must have a limit somewhere. That's just my opinion though.

Hans and Dandy might be able to hold up for a time before being overwhelmed by Iskander's armies since they're a natural werewolf and vampire respectively. The reload time Rip would have to go through in reloading between shots with her musket would lead her to get slaughtered quick though. The three along with the battalion, just dragging out the inevitable slaughter.

I agree that Iskander would win, but it would make for a better/fairer fight if they were to be added into the mix. It was ultimately a miss match, I guess. Still, I don't think it would be completely one-sided.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Iskander (Fate/Zero) VS Letzte Bataillon (Hellsing)

@Dream: Yeah. I figured as much, still confused about the immune to conventional weapons thing. I always thought that was because servants can enter astral form, in which they're intangible and basically ghosts (they can't be hurt, but they can't interact with others either). I thought they could be effected by them as long as they're materialized, unless they have a broken defense like God Hand.

Iskander still beats them, but they're not completely helpless. It's still a bit of a stomp, yes. I'll admit it, maybe I should make some changes. I could add Captain Hans, Dandy, and/or Rip Van Winkle. That might even the odds. What do you think?

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Battles » Korra Vs Edward Elric

I wonder if Ed could just transmute his auto-mail into platinum to counteract any metal bending. I mean, he's transformed it into other metals before. Ed would need foreknowledge of earth bending/metal bending though first to consider this tactic, which he doesn't have in this scenario. That doesn't matter though, because Korra can't metal bend yet.

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Battles » Iskander (Fate/Zero) VS Letzte Bataillon (Hellsing)

No one? I thought this would be a cool fight. Iskander would be all like, "Halt, villains!" Then proceed to open up a can of medieval ass-kicking.

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Battles » Iskander (Fate/Zero) VS Letzte Bataillon (Hellsing)

Iskander/Alexander: The King of Conquerors

“Their bodies may return to ash, but their spirits still hear my call! These men are my legendary heroes – my loyal followers! They’re my true friends - breaking the rules of space and time to fight once more at my side!”

“They are my treasure within treasures; they’re my right to rule! They make up Alexander's mightiest Noble Phantasm – Ionian Hetairoi!!”

VS

Letzte Bataillon: Millennium's Vampire Nazi Army.

They are both in character. Iskander, after securing his companion Waver's safety (in other words, hiding him in some non-disclosed location), intends to stop the carnage brought forth by Millennium. He goes into the streets of the ruined capital of Britain, and faces them all on foot. Iskander does not have access to the Gordius Wheel, but he does have access to Ionian Hetairoi and his sword.

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Battles » RADITZ VS AVENGERS

This guy must really hate Raditz.

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Battles » Samurai Jack VS Raiden (Metal Gear)

@Sonata: Yes, it is a bit early I suppose. Raiden has quite a few feats before then, but they don't match up to Jack's. You know, like Jack's surviving atmospheric re-entry feat. I suppose Jack would win, for now. Unless Re-Vegeance shows us some more impressive feats. Still, what an odd name: Re-Vegeance. That sounds like something out of a cliche action movie.

EDIT: Plus, Jack has cut through some ridicules things; like those gauntlets of chronus. Jack turns giant robots into sashimi with his sword, and stuff.

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Battles » Samurai Jack VS Raiden (Metal Gear)

Samurai Jack

VS

Raiden

Speed is equalized. They are intent on defeating each other by either KO or death. I watched that trailer for the new "Re-Vengeance" game, and thought it might be an interesting match up.

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Battles » Korra Vs Edward Elric

I would love to see this fight actually happen, but yeah, Edward can transmute gatling guns and cannons. I would give the edge to him because of that. Who knows though, Korra could get some more impressive feats like Yusuke52 said. Though, she hasn't been shown to be capable of entering the Avatar state yet.

A close fight would be dangerous too, because Ed can mimic what Scar does and deconstruct matter (splatter the fuck out of people). But that's out of character for Ed, he's not the murdering in cold blood type. So, I don't think he would resort to that. He is still a superior combatant when it comes to close quarters, and he has a metal arm that he can transmute into various sharp and blunt objects. So, it would be bad in general if Korra took this fight up close.

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Battles » Zodd Nosferatu (Berserk) VS Bakunetsu Banchou (Kongou Banchou)

Bakunetsu could tank missiles and just toss them around (as seen in his pic). I think it would be a good fight. Zodd has more experience, but Bakunetsu has more endurance. I'm not really sure myself who would win.

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Battles » Zodd Nosferatu (Berserk) VS Bakunetsu Banchou (Kongou Banchou)

Zodd the Immortal

VS

Bakunetsu Banchou

SCENARIO:

These two are both bloodlusted, and are intent on killing each other. They both fight in an abandoned/decimated city. How does this go?

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Battles » Asura vs. the Kishin

@MisterShin said:

LOOOOOL
That was the corpse of Asura, he was not even alive, and they were driven to madness by the mere corpse.
Free the werewolf and the witch, were given the task to pump, black blood into the corpse to revive Kishin Asura.

Yes, I'm not exactly the most knowledgeable regarding Kishin Asura. How powerful is his insanity-aura/mind fuck, when he is fully revived? Well, either way, I do admit that Wrath Asura doesn't have any notable feats of shrugging off attacks on his mind.

I guess Kishin Asura wins in this scenario.

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Battles » Asura vs. the Kishin

@MisterShin: I see, well that is something that should be taken into account.

There is the speed difference as well. Going from what I know, Wrath Asura is faster. He's at least fast enough to exit the earth's atmosphere and fly to the moon in a short period of time, so he's high up on there on the hypersonic scale at the very least.

The thing is, this not a straight up fight. The OP is not specific about how that is though. Does he mean that Wrath Asura is just trying to shrug off Kishin Asura's madness aura, and doing nothing else; that he's just standing there and not attacking Kishin Asura? If so, I'm not sure how Wrath Asura will fair. He doesn't have any notable feats of shrugging off mental manipulation.

EDIT: Still, that werewolf guy and witch lady were able to snap out of it in time. It doesn't seem too impressive.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Asura vs. the Kishin

@MisterShin: That would get Kishin Asura killed wouldn't it? If he killed Mithra or something, that would just make Asura go berserk and destroy the whole planet they're on.

But I guess that would count as driving Asura insane, and because this match specifies that Kishin Asura succeeding in that area equals victory; he wins. He would then also get torn to bits by Wrath Asura so it be quite the pyrrhic victory.

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Battles » Jehuty vs Gundam

I want to say Jehuty. Does it have access to all its abilities throughout the games? You know, Zero Shift (teleportation) and its energy/beam cannons (Halberd, Vector Cannon)? It's powerful at its strongest, being able to take out large battleships (small armadas of them to boot) and giant Orbital Frames by itself. Naked Jehuty (it's strongest form) is on a completely different level and is able to do the same with little to no effort at all. You said the second version though, so I'm guessing it does have Zero Shift. It's still very powerful, even then. If it has access to all its other abilities up to that point I'm pretty sure it can win against the Strike Freedom and Wing Zero.

I don't know much about the 00 Gundam though. I know the Strike and Wing, but I haven't seen much of what 00 is capable of. Other than putting a large gash into ELS in the 00 Gundam movie. That's some impressive destructive power. Still, Jehuty is not to be underestimated and I believe it has the speed advantage (with Zero Shift and all that).

Plus, Jehuty man, oh sweet nostalgia. I played ZOE so many freaking times.

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Battles » Miyamoto Musashi's (Vagabond) Gauntlet

@t3h_bash: I'm not particularly familiar with the anime version but did Guts fight Wyald like he did in the manga before the eclipse? If not, then I can see where you're going with this but Guts still has the strength advantage. He just needs one strike and Musashi would crumple under the blow along with his katana. In the anime I also remember that Guts still fought Zodd early on and survived, if barley and by a stroke of luck.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Miyamoto Musashi's (Vagabond) Gauntlet

He loses against Guts. If you are referring to Guts right before the sacrifice of the Band of the Hawk. I think he could win against Jin and Mugen though. I'm not sure about the others.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Jackie Chan vs Ben Tennyson

You're all forgetting the most important question.

Does Jackie Chan, "Don't want no trabble?" Does he have access to a lot of random objects? If Jackie's in a hardware store, or a mall he is unstoppable.

This is definitely relevant:

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Battles » Thorkell (Vinland Saga) VS Guts (Berserk)

@ReiKai: Yeah, I need to catch up on the OVA's. I heard they're good. I'm up to date on the manga though. I love that series. I wonder what will happen when Guts' party finds the Elven Sanctuary.

The battle with the Sea God was awesome. Anyway, I agree with t3h_bash. Guts wins in the first scenario but loses in the second. It will still be a good fight though.

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