FalconC2 (Level 9)

“ A king must live more vivid than any other and be a figure for all to admire! The king is the one who collects the envy of all his heroes and stands as their guide! Therefore, the king is not alone! ”
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Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Bernkastel vs Haruka Kaminogi

Bern's an extremely casual universe creator/destroyer but I would just take the Ghost in the Shell stuff with a grain of salt. It's just Bern being a troll, as per usual.

Anyway, I don't think I can't say much for this since I barely know all that much about Haruka besides the Dragon Torque and only some of what it can do. Uh, so I'll go with no comment on this one.

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Battles » Z vs Bernkastel

@Dream said:

@FalconC2: Here's a video of episode 13 of Dual Parallel:

While battling the mecha Himiko, the limiter on Zinv is released allowing it to manifest LHW and easily defeat the mecha. Afterward, it is used to prevent the destruction of both parallel worlds within the series by fusing them into a third universe, which was assumed to be Zinv sacrificing itself. However...

The mecha restored itself in the new universe created, as seen in the final minutes of this final episode to the series (sorry for the Spanish dub, but this was the only copy of the scene I could find via Youtube.) It's implied that Zinv's pilot, Kazuki, would use the mecha to explore the universe, hinting to it having FTL speed.

Okay, that in that first video the fusing of the parallel worlds seems legitimate. I have no idea what they're saying in the second video though. I flunked spanish (in my defense, it was because my Spanish teacher was kind of hot and I only paid attention to her rump and tits). I already know Z has his own FTL feats but I don't know if he's actually done stuff like that with his Light Hawk Wings besides destroying the moon. If he can do what Zinv's done then sure, he probably has that power/durability; unless Zinv's LHW's were special or something.

At any rate, I think Bern and Lambda destroy and create universes much more casually than that. Plus, they can spam that stuff and do crazy things like turn cookies into a small universe. Bernkastel herself also has her "cats" for back-up that each throw around that sort of firepower. Not mention that Bern and Lamba are also tough enough to tank all of that in their fight and cross the distance between those universes they create easily.

So, I'm still thinking it's in Bernkastel's favor.

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Battles » Z vs Bernkastel

@Dream said:

@FalconC2: A "world" from a philosophical standpoint would also mean a universe and a number of sci-fi/ fantasy based fictions are known to refer to other dimensions or universes as "parallel worlds". The universal-level durability claim with 2 LHW appears to come from when the mecha Zinv from Dual Parallel Trouble Adventure capable of surviving the destruction of a parallel universe when he had two LHW and fused two of them together to create a third universe.

If that's the case then okay then. Though, I would kind of like to see that scene with Zinv. I haven't personally watched it.

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Battles » Z vs Bernkastel

Also, from the re-make (it's also in the original IIRC).

17:25~18:18, creating and destroying universes in-between them during their fight

25:48~26:56, Lambda trolling Berny with a cookie that exploded inside her stomach transforming into a small universe, Bern survives that just fine

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Z vs Bernkastel

Berny wins, and to be honest I am kind of skeptical of Z or Tenchi being able to tank a universe-buster when A) all they have to support that is a claim from Tokomi and B) she says world which is vague (and would really imply planet-busting all things considered).

Also, just going to post that even Bern's "cats" can throw around big bangs and big crunches by the handful so the Light Hawk Wings are going to eventually break anyway even if they are that tough.

3:56~4:50

Specifically, at 4:35: "The many spectacular spells displayed the beginning of a universe, the creation of planets, then their destruction and the universe's end, all in an instant."

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Battles » TENGU BURANCHI (TORIKO) VS NARUTO

Otherwise, yeah he gives Naruto the Elg treatment before Naruto can do anything to stop him.

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Battles » TENGU BURANCHI (TORIKO) VS NARUTO

The only real problem I see is Tengu's stamina.

He can't use his speed indefinitely without having to recharge his batteries, like in his fight with Elg he had to let Elg hit him to convert that kinetic energy into electricity.

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Battles » Saber vs Ichigo

@supernova7005 said:

@CerusSerenade: he tanked fragor, a mountain range level attack which is >>>> excalibur.

H2 ihcigo (a far weaker version) crushed lanza del relampago without a scratch, and that was a city buster atleast on par with excalibur.

Have either of those attacks done this?

Taken from Fate/Zero Volume 3

Ex – calibur!!!”

Light galloped.

Light roared.

The prana, accelerated by the factor of the released dragon, became a streak of light, a swirling and surging torrent that devoured the sea demon together with the dark night.

A silent scream rose within the river water evaporating in an instant, as every single atom composing the body of the giant sea demon that had been the embodiment of terror were exposed to the scorching impact.

But in the center of the sea demon being completely burnt to cinders, within a fortress of bulky defiled flesh, Caster simply wordlessly watched over this moment of white blinding annihilation which had stolen his heart.

[...]

“Just what, have I…”

Before this murmur, directed at no one, left his mouth, all matter was brought into another world, annihilated by the white light.

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Battles » Saber vs Ichigo

Dangai Ichigo gets vaporized.

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Battles » Gilgamesh vs HST opponents

True, the "Soaring Spear that Strikes with Death" has more firepower and it's counterpart "Barbed Spear that Pierces with Death" is the one that can't be blocked. As we clearly see Archer pull Rho Aias out after it was launched, meaning it's not instant like the "Barbed Spear that Pierces with Death." Otherwise, Archer would have been hit immediately.

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Battles » Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann vs Cthulhu

One account of it being a galaxy sized mech with the firepower to destroy galaxies.

Seriously, Cthulhu's immortality is not that impressive and he's being overestimated here. He was a planetary threat at best. He also doesn't have any feats against vaporization/atomization.

TTGL can totally reduce him to that state.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann vs Cthulhu

TTGL is much faster either way so it's a moot point if Cthulhu can mindfuck them or not. He will be dead before he can do it.

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Battles » Gilgamesh vs HST opponents

The fact is you can't dodge it because once it's used it hits you. It switches around points A and B. Point A being that the spear is thrown and B being that it hits its target.

Gae Bulg turns this backwards. The spear is thrown because it hits its target and not because it is thrown. The switching of cause and effect, basically.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Bayonetta vs Gilgamesh

What's this about mongrels?

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Battles » Gilgamesh vs HST opponents

You sure about that? I remember Gilgamesh using Gae Bulg in F/HA at some point. Unless that was just using the passive ability.

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Battles » Gilgamesh vs HST opponents

Obito still has to be fast enough to use Izanagi before Gae Bulg hits him. Otherwise, he's dead.

Not to mention that the use use of Izanagi destroys his eyes the last time I checked so he will only be able to defend against it once or twice before getting hit by it again. Or, just getting sword spammed.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Gilgamesh vs HST opponents

Hrunting is not an Island buster. It is however a projectile phantasm used by Archer/EMIYA, capable of moving at 4000 m/s or around Mach 11, homing in on targets, and straining Rho Aias used by Shirou. Its firepower should still be impressive as Rho Aias can block a portion of Excalibur's blast in Heaven's Feel. A portion of a mountain busting blast that can destroy things like Gille's Cthulhu rip-off down to its very atoms. Hrunting also would have eventually broken Rho Aias if Saber didn't stop Archer when she did.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Gilgamesh vs HST opponents

He can definitely beat Obito, Gae Bulg is impossible to dodge under normal conditions (causality manipulation) and it kills things deader than dead. Also, EA destroys space so conventional methods of blocking or avoiding it are out. Unless you have a convenient plot device to save you. Ichigo also gets sword spammed as he's lacking good resistance to h4x and Gilgamesh goes all women and childrens on Prime Whitebeard because we don't even know how powerful Prime Whitebeard is.

Post by FalconC2 (349 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Gilgamesh vs HST opponents

We never see it do that, so it's not something we can actually quantify.

However, we do see it hold down Hercules but that was because Enkidu is super effective against the divine. Against anything that's not divine, not so much. Gilgamesh still annihilates the majority of the cast though. He could also try carpet bombing them with phantasms from the sky with Vimana.

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Battles » Lancer (Cú Chulainn) VS Twilight-verse

How does he fare with speed equalized?

I'm thinking Lancer can make use of his astral form to get the drop on many of them.

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