That's Force Choke, not Force Crush.
You were talking about force choke the last I checked and did not specificy what FC meant. Now you're twisting around to try to dig yourself out of the hole you dug yourself into and are saying you meant force crush when you meant force choke. That's amusing.
And again, requires Seeing the target. A live connection via Holo still makes a Visual Connection.
Which shouldn't be a problem since Galen Marek and Luke Skywalker can perceive and see tie-fighters which are noted to move at sub-relativistic/relativistic speeds in the EU. That's ignoring the fact that some force users have actually done it without seeing something. As with Darth Bane who crushed someone's insides with the force.
It has nothing to do with range, only with what the Force user can See. Much of that is explained by HK-47 in how to kill them and how their abilities tend to function.
What I want you to do is actually refer to the time in that video HK-47 says that the things you are claiming. You do know he is also describing how difficult it is to kill force users as well? How it takes heavy ordnance and explosives at close range to do it and that gas is ineffective. That normal minds needed to be protected and that Revan, at Sith Lord, was the one who taught people how to do that. It wasn't something they could learn on their own.
It's funny how people post that video and ignore or twist its contents to fit their delusions.
Yes and he was Looking at him the whole time he he was doing Force Choke. Which is, again, a completely Separate ability from Force Crush. Obi-Wan demonstrates Force Crush against two Battle Droids.
It's all just different applications of telekinesis and are you seriously saying that force choke and force crush are literally so different that one can't work on sentient creatures and the other can? That's like saying a pyrokinetic who set a person's head on fire can't do the same to inanimate objects or vice-versa that one that's used their pyrokinetics on furniture can't use it on people.
Again you're completely mixing up abilities. Galen did not "disintegrate" Troopers with Force Crush.
They are the application of the same thing: the force. In which case, the force is being use in a way that is telekinetic. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that.
That's Force Wave, and that's something that he only ever did in the Trailers.
So what? Official material and trailers for a game are non-admissible now because you say so?
Galen never disintegrated people with the Force in the novelizations or in cut scenes within the games themselves.
Yes, just like he "never" killed hoards of storm troopers with the force and just like he "never" tossed people around like rag-dolls with it.
I know cause I have both novels. Read them cover to cover and they remove a lot of the fluff from the games.
That's claim that you have provided no real evidence for besides the fact you are saying A doesn't display B because "I totally know what I am talking about and have read the novels."
It doesn't help that your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired so I am suspect of how you interpreted them.
But even that's not impressive. Regular Clone Troopers can run up, tear their heads off and beat them down with bare hands if necessary.
It's funny how terrible you are at hiding your bias is. So now, apparently clone troopers are super-human and can tear people apart with their bare hands because you so. I wonder if you also think they are super fast too.
Again, two different abilities.
Again, it's the same thing being used in a different way.
And Vader used it on people not expecting it and had no ability in the Force at all. It's still not the same as Force Crush, and even that's never been done against anything larger than a Human.
Oh great, so apparently if these people knew it was going to happen they could somehow magically defend themselves against force choke. That's cute. Also again, force crush is just the force being used as telekinesis. That's all there is to it. They do not even scream out of the name of the move like some anime. They just fucking do it and things like force crush and force choke are just people applying names to various ways a force has used his telekinesis.
Also, showing us what Vader can do isn't the same a showing what Galen Marek can do. While Alita doesn't use "The Force", she has electromagnetic powers and control, as well as the ability to generate and manipulate plasma. She can also sense ki.
Oh good, plasma that will certainly help. So will the ability to sense ki against someone who can where Alita is even if he is miles away from her. Yes, great help that. Also, exactly how will electromagnetic powers help here? This is one moments you are saying something can do something because you say it can, right?
Unlike the majority of SW fans, I actually have evidence and proof and not pointless and horrible speculation.
Oh really, then what do you call assigning names to moves that all byproducts of a force user utilizing his telekinesis even though they never actually differentiate those moves they do in-story. Oh, and that assuming one move is limited to non-organics and non-sentient because "that's what I think even though we see they can use the force on people just fine."
Thank you for proving your bias. I can see why everyone universally hated you at the OBD Raigen.
Also, never said Alita was FTL. Superluminal is more like sublight and closer to lightspeed. And as I said, it required specific conditions to be met.
Yes, and those conditions exist only within your own mind.
By the way, if you meant sub-light or relativistic you would have said subluminal. Admit it Raigen you fucked up and you are trying to back-peddle away from one of your mistakes as per usual.
I should point out that he is BS'ing out his ass. That's not acceleration. That's the editing team switching from Live to Green Screened CGI footage of them using Force Speed. It's just the transition from the Live Feed to the CGI.
Oh, okay so it's one big technical fault and anything we see on screen is unadmissible because it could be a result of some "technical fault?"
Are you seriously going to dismiss what we see on screen as some made up technical fault that you pulled out of your behind? Okay then, all scenes in any movie must just be technical hang ups then. You know, except the ones you think are okay or adhere to whatever bias you have.
That's just wonderful.
Also, his math is complete BS as well. To go a distance of 1meter in 0.04sec is a speed of 25m/s. You know how fast that is? 55.9mph. That's it. This is using an actual Calculator. This is why SW fans need to go back to school. They need to stop inventing numbers and learn how to do Math properly.
Holy fuck, you really are that retarded. He is talking about acceleration not speed when he said that. Those are completely different things you complete and utter dimwit. Now try to put those numbers he did in a calculator and using the formula for acceleration.
And Star Wars writers need to do the same and learn actual Physics.
That's cute coming from a guy who couldn't be bothered to actually read and comprehend Darth Wong's calculation. Very, very cute.
Coming from the same guy who does not reference how he is getting his numbers.
Toji had done something similar before in an earlier match, but again requires very specific conditions to perform.
Impressive but do note that even Obiwan can hold his own against blaster fire coming from over ten thousand droids. Note the Magnaguards also have relativistic reflexes. As in they could react at that speed.
Revenge of the Sith noveliziation/pdf
Three MagnaGuards, each with a double-ended weapon that generated an energy field impervious to lightsabers, each with reflexes that operated near lightspeed, each with hyper-sophisticated heuristic combat algorithms that enabled it to learn from experience and adapt its tactics instantly to any situation, were certainly beyond Obi-Wan's ability to defeat, but it was not Obi-Wan who would defeat them; Obi-Wan wasn't even fighting.
He was only a vessel, emptied of self. The Force, shaped by his skill and guided by his clarity of mind, fought through him. In the Force, he felt their destruction: it was somewhere above and behind him, and only seconds away. He went to meet it with a backflipping leap that the Force used to lift him neatly to an empty droid socket in the ceiling hive. The MagnaGuards sprang after him but he was gone by the time they arrived, leaping higher into the maze of girders and cables and room-sized cargo containers that was the control center's superstructure.
Here, said the Force within him, and Obi-Wan stopped, balancing on a girder, frowning back at the oncoming killer droids that leapt from beam to beam below him like malevolent durasteel primates. Though he could feel its close approach, he had no idea from where their destruction might come...until the Force showed him a support beam within reach of his blade and whispered, now. His blade flicked out and the durasteel beam parted, fresh-cut edges glowing white hot, and a great hulk of ship-sized cargo container that the beam had been supporting tore free of its other supports with shrieks of anguished metal and crashed down upon all three MagnaGuards with the finality of a meteor strike.
Two, three, and four. Oh, thought Obi-Wan with detached approval. That worked out rather well. Only ten thousand to go. Give or take. An instant later the Force had him hurtling through a storm of blasterfire as every combat droid in the control center opened up on him at once. Letting go of intention, letting go of desire, letting go of life, Obi-Wan fixed his entire attention on a thread of the Force that pulled him toward Grievous: not where Grievous was, but where Grievous would be when Obi-Wan got there...
Leaping girder to girder, slashing cables on which to swing through swarms of ricocheting particle beams, blade flickering so fast it became a deflector shield that splattered blaster bolts in all directions, his presence alone became a weapon: as he spun and whirled through the control center's superstructure, the blasts of particle cannons from power droids destroyed equipment and shattered girders and unleashed a torrent of red-hot debris that crashed to the deck, crushing droids on all sides. By the time he flipped down through the air to land cat-footed on the deck once more, nearly half the droids between him and Grievous had been destroyed by their own not-so-friendly fire. He cut his way into the mob of remaining troops as smoothly as if it were no more than a canebrake near some sunlit beach; his steady pace left behind a trail of smoking slices of droid.
"Keep firing!" Grievous roared to the spider droids that flanked him. "Blast him!"
Obi-Wan felt the massive shoulder cannon of a spider droid track him, and he felt it fire a bolt as powerful as a proton grenade, and he let the Force nudge him into a leap that carried him just far enough toward the fringe of the bolt's blast radius so that instead of shattering his bones it merely gave him a very strong, very hot push-that sent him whirling over the rest of the droids to land directly in front of Grievous.
This is most definitely applicable to Galen Marek as he is above Darth Vader and Obiwan. And since Galen Marek is strictly EU this applies to him. Don't go saying that it requires time or some nonsense. Powerful force users delve into the force into the force at will and easily might I add as we see Obiwan do here.
It only worked against Caerula all of once because the first time it was unexpected. Also, you're wrong about how Force Precog works. It is almost entirely about Intent. And it can be tricked rather easily, as explained in the HK-47 video. Peter's Spider-Sense is completely different, and even that can be tricked.
No, it's not it lets Luke Skywalker fight whilst blind against a droid that cannot possibly have any "intent" in his lightsaber training with Obiwan. That's one mark against what you said.
As for HK-47 point the exact time in the video, and the exact quote, because he is also saying things in support how hard it to kill Jedi. Gas weapons being ineffective, Revan having to teach people to defend their minds and other things like it requires explosives and heavy ordnance at close range.
As shown, Alita in a damaged Tuned body was hypersonic. In Imaginos1.0 against Caerula she's even faster.
That's cool even padawans can defend against slug-throwers, which fire hypersonic projectiles as noted in the novel Shatterpoint, and blasters which are more advanced than them. Obiwan can fight droids with relativistic reflexes and deflect blaster bolts coming from ten thousand droids. Galen Marek is above him and Darth Vader.
And in Imaginos 2.0 she exceeds all limits. She literally performs brain surgery to counteract tens of thousands of waves rebounding within Zazie's skull at Mach5+speeds, and had to create a counter-wave for each and every one of them within nary an instant to save her.
At minimum she counters 20thousand invisible, microscopic particles in Zazie's head that move in excess of Mach5 (Hypersonic Speed) and does so within a second or two
No, it's not a second or two it's you are literally making up a time-frame.
The soliton waves were moving in excess of Mach 5. So in less than 1/500th of a second, each of them was bounding randomly around inside Zazie's head. And in faster than 1/10000th of a second, Alita was countering them. That's 20x Faster. That would actually place her reaction and striking speed at Mach 100. And that's at the very least.
Good to know and I have no problem with Alita being that fast but do note that Galen Marek having relativistic reflexes and attack speed means he is in the mach 88,000 range. Which means through some division...
100/88100 = 0.00113507377
That Alita has about only around 0.00113507377 percent of the reflexes and attack speed a Magnaguard would have.
Though your math is extremely suspect and you are once again making things up in regard to it like the "1/500" and "1/10000" remarks you made without providing a reference for where you came to those numbers or what formula you used to get them.