@ReiKai said:You know it doesn't matter what Vader said if he can't do it himself. That's the point. Naruto may have once been a dunce, but not anymore. As for being "weak in the mind", you do realize that a number of them have Techniques/Abilities that specifically target the persons mind and senses? Your ignorance of these basic facts is why people won't take you seriously.
@GIRUGAMESH: lol funny i wasnt even talking to you. thats EXACTLY what i was talking about. the Force as a whole. thats what i MEANT. shee... you dont even deserve a facepalm right now. i cant BELIEVE you would see past me like that.
oh and no, i havent seen him destroy a planet, but im going to take his word for what HE said, in the OFFICIAL movie, made by GEORGE LUCUS HIMSELF. and he said destroying a planet is nothing compared to the force. and a question for you: when have the naruto char. even come close to destroying a planet? lol NEVER. my narutotard of a friend said, and i say proudly said that naruto can toss a RHINO...really?!
and darth vader WITHOUT the force is still terrifying. he has the light saber. nothing of their little "knives" and rasengans will do a single thing. they would all melt to the high powered heat of the light saber, anyway...chidori (as well as most of all of sasuke's and ALL of the naruto characters attacks...) is so much of a close range its ridiculous. all darth would do is wait for that idiot to run right into his trap, and slice him neatly in half, therefore instantly killing him, end of battle.
even then, without the Force OR the light saber, he still is immensely manipulative, and can convince naruto to give up his power or something like that. lets be truthful here, naruto characters are very weak in the mind;very impressionable. come on! sasuke could "mind rape" (if you can call that weak attack mind rape) at freaking 12 years old! i know he was very advanced for his age and the whole "uchiha clan" and all that, but even then, some of the adults were stronger than him at points, so obviously mind raping a person in the naruto verse is like licking ice cream. so convincing someone in there would be easy compared to the powerful darth vader. in fact, sasuke was so good in making naruto think he was his friend, to this day, he still thinks that! while sasuke is getting on with his life, naruto is still holding onto the gay dream he has thinking sasuke is still his friend. please. i cant believe that someone nearly at a type of god levels is being compared to these human weaklings.
Here's the way it works; this is a group discussion, meaning, unless you specifically designate someone you're addressing, anyone is free to reply. That simple enough for you, lamb chop?
Ok, so you were referring to the force as a whole; that does nothing to make your argument any less stupid. Vader cannot wield the whole, complete power of the force, nobody can. So that renders the first few dozen words of crap you posted irrelevant.
As for that Rhino, that was a giant rhino that could have easily weighed 40 tons+, and Naruto was able to toss it a couple of hundred metres away. There's no way Vader could do that with sheer strength, even with the force it would be debatable.
Without the force? Well no actually, he isn't that terrifying at all. Without it he's just a guy in a suit of armour with a lightsaber. A jedi/sith without the force would be like a Naruto character without chakra, perhaps even worse. Without force precog Vader has now way to react to supersonic attacks and no way to move at supersonic levels, never mind lightspeed (as you wrongly suggest). Take away the force and Neji could probably beat him.
...convince Naruto to give up his power? I feel I am forced to post this, sorry but the sort of crap you're coming out with is embarrassing:
Apparently you have no idea, most Naruto characters aren't weak minded at all. Consider how many times someone has tried to convince Naruto of something and failed. And just look at Kakashi, the guy I say has a good chance to beat Darth Vader; he was able to be stabbed hundreds of thousands of times over the course of three days whilst still keeping his mind intact.
As for Sasuke, let me spell it out for you; just convincing someone is not the same as mind-raping them. That would be like comparing someone who can make a convincing argument to Aizen's shikai; it's ridiculous.
You are clearly a Naruto hater and there is no sense to be had from you. Go back to the hole you crawled out from.
Outright mental domination with the Force is different from Mind tricks child. Not that anyone in Naruto has shown sufficient resistance to either so fuck off