All at their strongest
No Illusions allowed
DBZ Cell games
somebody hacked into speed's account and made this thread.
its impossible for speed to make a thread like this lol.
ichigo one shots meruem.
Ichigo should win high diff. I don't think meruem's tanking Getsuga tenshous to the face.
@Falbium_Asmodeus: Nope. It's Raditz saying it. Creator statements is not equal to Character statements just like Creator's attitude is not equal to Character's attitude. Otherwise all lies in books or animes should have been true. That's why there's "Bluff" In stories like that.
@eddz99: Remember what I said earlier the creator is god whatever he says goes he can make a person who can destroy the multi verse with a sneeze what are you gonna do argue with him it's his work. LN feats are written not shown like manga if you can not understand that then you need some serious help. Take dbz as an example say toriyama only did it as a LN no anime no manga and said raditz was ftl its fact end of discussion just by saying he was he is and later on he introduces bill who is much stronger and faster he would describe however he wanted to what are you gonna do argue with toriyama I would pay to see that.
Remember what I said that Character statements is not equal to creator statements? If it was then the characters would have the same attitude as the creator.
It's like sengoku saying that whitebeard had the power to destroy the world while he had other enemies who were equal to him, it's CHARACTER statements.
Creator statements are basically a feat like
SSG Goku = 5
Bills = 8
Whis = 15 in terms of power.
@Falbium_Asmodeus: Why would i read the LN? If you can supply me information because you act like mr. "Lol i know izzei is lightspeed cuz he sed it lololol i belev him cuz he iz issei " guy. NOT ALL STATEMENTS can be considered feats, only statements with backup feats can be considered true.
@Falbium_Asmodeus: Okay let's say his statement is true.
Then you can't say Piccolo's statement is wrong that his special beam canon at 400 powerlevel was lightspeed.
Raditz dodged it at 1,200.
Bills is at 100,000,000 atleast.
If Raditz is FTL how much more FTL is bills? Lol.
@Falbium_Asmodeus: I don't think so.
Billis (DBZ BoG)
Win via Death or draw if the whole Universe is destoyed in progress
The picture shows anime sirzechs obviously. Thus anime statements being allowed in debates.
@Falbium_Asmodeus: I watched both seasons. And because the picture the OP used is anime, and he specified no conditions, mangas shouldn't be included, I'm not debating that Issei is not lightspeed, I'm asking how you can say he is without actual feats, and since the thread uses anime Sirzechs, Issei saying that he could beat God should also be a valid statement.
However, you cannot prove your statement true since mangas are almost similar but character statements are shit unless proved.
Unless there's actual feats then it's just the character's attitude saying that.
P.S I don't think Issei could have killed god at that point even when he stated that he could.
Creator statements are not equal to character statements so don't bring Achillies something here because that one had no illustration.
Sigh, even sengoku said whitebeard had the power to destroy the world, which i highly doubt. I need feats not baseless statements, even Issei said that he felt like he could kill god even though he was nowhere near that level when he said that.