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Battles » Pre Time Skip Kakashi Vs Naruto & Sasuke, Gaara & Neji

@GIRUGAMESH: Well I guess i'll agree with that last sentence.

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Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

How is someone with continental level kicks beating two large planet level guys.

By making baseless opinions :D

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Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

@SonNeko: Namek and Vegeta, what i meant by slow was slow enough for it not to be instant the moment the blast hits.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

@SonNeko:

The stronger the attack the bigger the explosion, and he didn't seem to be trying to get away.

Punches and ki blasts aren't the same thing.

It's an example, like Vegeta getting hurt from mere planet busting attacks that in reality is actually large planet level.

I think that by that "showing off and all" that he meant the planet busting, not the attacks.

Busting the planet slowly to show his greatness.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

@SonNeko:

Because the technique that required charging doesn't explode on impact.

Nope, the stronger the attack does not mean the bigger the explosion, otherwise Frieza wouldn't be hurt from mere punches from Goku.

Near the start "Frieza always liked to show off".

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

@SonNeko:

Like the said, for the sake of making things cooler, if you can't take the reason then i'll try to go into depths.

- Bills stated the Frieza did like to show off.

- He doesn't like to get caught up in the explosion of the planet.

- That was frieza first form, final form did the same because he was exhausted against the fight with Goku.

- Dr. Gero also took time to charge a city busting attack, it may also be a inconsistency, that's why most DBZ debaters rely on powerscales.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

@SonNeko: You don't THINK, but there is enough proof to speculate them being able to do it.

- 18,000 being able to bust the planet at full power should be able to spam moon level attacks since I don't see special beam canon at 300 repelling a casual attack from this Vegeta.

- The gap from 400 to 18,000 is dirt compared to the gap from 18,000 to 1,000,000+

- Therefore the team at this point CAN spam planet busters.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

@SonNeko: Because Heracles wasn't shown to tank even continental level attacks? Let alone a spam of planetary level attacks.

The level of the attack matters the most, otherwise buu wouldn't be so afraid of Vegito.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

Here is what makes me say that Vegeta is already a planet buster at 18,000.

Piccolo at 400 busted the moon, he busted it with its whole aoe, if it was only the core there would have been big bits of rock left and it shouldn't have exploded instantly.

Even a meteor the size of a moon can bust the earth, but Vegeta is at 18,000, and there were no implications that he was targeting the core because as we can see, galick gun explodes on impact of non ki things, thus Vegeta at 18,000's galick gun having the aoe of the earth.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

@akronawol17: Proof? My powerscale has no flaws, all you say are your opinions without feats to back it up.

@SonNeko: I meant Vegito and Buuhan.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Pre Time Skip Kakashi Vs Naruto & Sasuke, Gaara & Neji

Jiraya was only 3 tail level without sage mode.

Base Jiraya >>>> Pre timeskip kakashi.

It was stated and Kakashi agreed that Haku was stronger than Zabuza, since Kakashi and Zabuza were even at that time, Haku should be above Kakashi.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

@SonNeko: So does buu, yet he got owned by a much stronger being, I don't think regen matters if the being is much stronger than you.

What is Heracles's best tanking feat? Like i said, I don't think he's gonna regenerate from multiple planet level attacks.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

@SonNeko: Heracle's wouldn't even be able to dent Ginyu with that level of power, even team rocket's ship can explode things to outer space LOL, what kind of things?

I don't think Heracles is tanking two planet busters, let alone spam planet busts.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Pre Time Skip Kakashi Vs Naruto & Sasuke, Gaara & Neji

They should win with difficulty in the first scenario, and win handily in scenario 2., I don't think kakashi's beating such a strong combo specially when Haku was stronger than Kakashi and Sasuke lasted against him.

It was Gaara > Neiji >> Sasuke at that time ( Pre-Chunnin ).

Gaara's shukaku partial transformation could also prove to be troublesome.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

I don't know what you guys are arguing about, if you're going by feats without powerscale then Heracles is country level at best, one can be stronger at DC and weaker in durability, however it doesn't work like that in DBZ, the instances that shows DBZ chars being hurt by little things like rocks are obviously there for the additional effects, I don't see the logic Goku being 100,000,000x weaker ( Tanking a bullet ) getting hurt by a rock at SSJ, if you guys try to use that as evidence, you're obviously being desperate, in reality if you base on powerscale, I don't think Piccolo's special beam canon at 400 ( The one that busted the moon ) would even affect Nappa, neither do I see Vegeta's strongest attack at 18,000 ( Earth busting ) affecting someone in the million league, both of these guys on the battle has atleast planet level durability.

Piccolo busted the moon at 400, it makes sense for Vegeta at 18,000 to be able to atleast bust a planet the size of earth, and there is Goku's powerlevel sensing feat to back it up since he could tell if Vegeta was bluffing.

Both of these guys at namek saga are already above 1,000,000. Heracles gets obliterated in bloodlust, he may last a second longer without it. There's no proof that Vegeta and Piccolo can't breathe in space, I don't think there are oxygen in space pods.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

Oh sorry, I didn't see namek saga, I thought this was saiyan saga LOL. The team takes this pretty handily if that's all Heracles could tank.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

@othus12: What is Heracle's best tanking feat? Does the regen have no limit? So this is basically Nappa level opponent with buu level regen.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Piccolo & Vegeta (Nemmek saga)

I don't know about Goku, but there is no proof that Piccolo and Vegeta can't breathe without oxygen.

They don't have planet level durability though so I say heracles stomps unless bloodlusted, Piccolo and Vegeta can just spam moon level attacks, and I don't think Heracles can tank 10 moon level attacks per second for a minute.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Marco vs Laxus

Ololol laxus ish lightning speed, laxuz > enel cuz dragon lololol

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Heracles vs Ascended Vegeta

I don't think it works that way, Trunk's weaker attack at ASSJ obliterated imperfect cell with the same cellular regen, while the same attack won't work on perfect cell (Same with Bills who should have no hax regen ), the self destruct is supposedly stronger than that weaker attack, therefore regen doesn't matter.

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