eddz99 (Level 10)

@Killer_of_trolls: They weren't sannins yet, i think jiraiya isn't a frog sage yet and orochimaru doesn't have those crazy techniques yet.

@Supreme Marvel said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

100 tonns for Superman

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What is superman's peak for lifting then?

- All at current

- Full potential

- Full knowledge of each other

- Fight to death

- No bloodlust

Rules:

No Susanoo

No Body controlling

Place:

Cell Games

Hitman reborn Team vs. Naruto Team

Did you Know That ...

Superman peaks his lift around 100 tons

100 tons = 100,000 kg = 220,462.262 lbs

An average person can lift 40% of their weight

An average person weighs 80kg, 40% of that is 32kg

100,000/32 = 3125, meaning superman can lift 3125 times the average man

Now, remember when Raditz scanned a human and his power level was 5?

Well, Superman's PL is 3125x5, which is 15625

Goku, when training with King Kai, reached 16000PL using kaioken2x

When using kaioken4x, he reached around 40k

Goku wins. Science proves it.

Kakarot still the World's strongest... :DDD

Don't say that ssj4 only carried a building because gt is crapshit.

@niBBit "Majin Vegeta gave his freaking life in order to stop Fat Buu" this is what i meant by overcharge, buu would have been killed many times without super regen, and yes raditz and vegeta has very different bp that's why he wouldn't be able to regen.. But let's say Perfect Cell has super regen, i am sure that gohan ssj2 would not have been able to beat him, kid buu would have been killed in seconds by goku ssj3, heck even by goku ssj2 if he had not a regen, so as super buu with mystic gohan. Also, gohan ssj2 at that time had no training for a long time, if it had been vegeta, i doubt he would even be able to tag him that fast, and vegeta mustered enough energy to deflect the blasts of buu ( expected as seen on the last episode of gt that kid goku wasn't affected by shenron's blasts when he was building universal spirit bomb )

@ReiKai: Gogeta ss4 made shenron fly with just looking at him, he has telekenesis, he made a being strong enough to create massive supernovas fly by just looking at him, i doubt he wouldn't be able to remove juggernaut's helm with his telekenesis

@niBBit: Well, Metal rildo was beaten by gohan SSJ2 who had no training over the years, which means that goku saying that he IS around buu he is a plothole only to make rildo sound cooler.

Not to mention, buu is actually not strong he just seems strong because of his insane regen powers

Example:

Vegenta might have killed fat buu when he went overcharge.

@solesamurai said:

1. Goku's goal was to train Uub not to obliterate him.

2. It should be obvious Goku is base form isn't as powerful as SSJ3 Goku derp

3. This isn't a battle.

4. Why did you make this thread?

1. True

2. 90% of the people on animevice believe that ssj3 goku dbz = base form goku gt

3. It is to enchance dbz debaters

4. To prove it

Uub seen sparring and matching base form goku is actually a part of buu ( not buu or his power )

Uub seen merging with fat buu's power should be equal to only kid buu.

So i therefore conclude that GT Goku = 10x Goku DBZ

@18hunt said:

IM TIRED OF IT, I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!!!!! YOU PEOPLE FROM ANIME VICE and COMIC VINE ARE UNDERRATING GOKU AND ANIME IN GENERAL. SAYING PEOPLE LIKE NARUTO CAN'T BEAT HIM (WHICH IS TRUE), THEN SAYING PEOPLE LIKE WEAKNESS THOR CAN!! (IM A THOR FAN-BOY AND IM SAYING THIS, THOR IS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS AGAINST GOKU, KAMEHAMEHA WILL OBLITERATE ALMOST ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep. he wouldn't be able to beat classic juggernaut because he is invincible with his helm.. But with gogeta ssj4 that's a different story since gogeta ssj4 has telekenesis

Full power

Tsunayoshi before aquiring original ring

Other than that all at full potential/current

Let's say laxus and gildarts can also fly like tsuna can.

If team 1 stomps bring second origin natsu on team 2

Place:

The forest where tsuna and byakuran fought.

@ohgodwhy said:

@SpeedForceSpider: I don't rate Asuma particularly highly whereas I see Zabuza being at around about Kakashi's level and he was able to match Kakashi in all aspects (seal speed, movement and strength) in their first fight. I believe Kakashi is better than Asuma and therefore Zabuza should also be better than Asuma.

Ash pile burning isn't that great, it could be easily avoided. Zabuza on the other hand has techniques that can cover the entire battlefield in his mist and I think without the sharingan to help him out like it did Kakashi, Asuma will fall quickly.

@SMXLR8: They were also able to create massive supernovas seen from earth on their final battle.

@SMXLR8: Online game, the creator claims that it's cannon.

@ReiKai: Actually goku and vegeta had their last fight on space

Full power

No Prep

No bloodlust

Kid SSJ1 Goten ( Z )

Place:

Cell games

@ohgodwhy: All i can say is 8 tail naruto < Chibaku tensei < 7 tail naruto < 6 tail naruto < Sage naruto

@ohgodwhy: If he was caught in chibaku tensei without kyubi he would've died.

@DBZ_universe: yea

@taichokage: Nah like kakashi isn't an uchiha that's why he wasn't as strong as obito, so is madara he isn't uchiha.