@eddz99: Luffy doing better than Black Star idk bout that.
Nope, but he was hurt better though
@eddz99: oh really? why dont you show us the link to that scientific article?
You should be the one showing me that a star's energy is larger than a planet exploding ( which obviously isn't, in a few seconds ) because you are the one wanting to prove me wrong, correct?
@eddz99: actually sani is a better fighter considering he mastered food honor, intuition and his hair attacking style which needs a huge ammount of concentration. (every hair is as hard to control as an arm) goku looks like a brute in front of the delicate techniques of shokugi.
So you're saying a guy who trained on earth is better than a guy who trained both in earth and in afterlife?
Who says controlling a ki and flying is not hard? Lol
Anyway , goku read memories easily, controlled ki fluently, and can fly which nobody in toriko could do ( except reading memories, i haven't watched toriko afterall ) also, goku is above than master roshi and the master of master roshi which has almost infinite knowledge about martial arts.
@eddz99: i laughed when you compared a planet exploding to the core of a star.
I laughed on how you don't know that a planet exploding prouduces more energy than a star ( it lasts a few seconds but yep, frieza survived that being half dead with no ki )
@eddz99: @othus12: DBZ as a whole is just one big Joke , sure it has great fights and inspired others but that about it. AS for the Ki thing that is DBZ's true damage right there. No one in DBZ has a lot of punching power just saying
A baseless statement since i already showed that dbz chars can increase their attack potency and aoe with ki, i don't want to go all over the piccolo raditz cycle thing again T_T
@eddz99: too bad goku is not above sani in every aspect.
sani has more skill and better energy drain, he is smarter and has more hax.
Nope, goku has been training martial arts even in afterlife which means he knows so much more techniques that sunny, that's if sunny can catch goku and can hold goku long enough to drain much of his energy ( pretty much like that android vs. vegeta ssj ) and again, goku is smarter when it comes to fighting because of the stated reasons.
The only reason why sani has a chance of winning this.
@eddz99: put goku inside a star. tell me what happens. oh that's right he gets owned.
EDIT goku's energy being felt across the universe proves nothing considering the dragon ball verse is made up of 4 small galaxies. also it could be felt only to those who knew KI. goku powering up barely shaked the earth.
Cell transforming made a earthquake more powerful than ssj3 goku did ( That shows that ssj3 was controlling it to buy time most probably ) , ssj3 goku was focusing all his energy inside him, the shaking earth thing was just a side effect also, http://www.animevice.com/dragon-ball/10-1/galaxies-that-exist-infinitely-a-break/97-340792/#2 , The galaxies of the mortal universe are infinite , and they are 12 universes, the realm of the supreme kai are outside that.
The put goku inside a star thing is a baseless statement, when goku went against frieza, he wasn't even affected by lava , frieza also tanked a planet explosion without ki, a planet explosion's energy > / = a star
I can also say that dbz chars can increase their resistance with ki to that kind of things but i guess i will do that later.
@eddz99: a type of art that allows moves to proceed swiftly trough an opponent without him even realizing it.
so by the time you realize there has been an actual attack you are dead. reactions matter for shit.
Food honor was never effective if the opponent is stronger than you in every aspect, anyway, that's what burter said.
@eddz99: jirou restrained released a star eater. can goku top the energy of a star? not a chance. even if he did. jirous guinness punch was a normal move. he can also knock an entire planet with a punch. meaning goku would have to have the arm strenght powerful enough to lift a planet in order to break out of jiros knocking.
Well if you read my posts in some of our debates, you should know that i posted that dbz chars can enchance their strength in all aspects with ki correct? ssj2 teen gohan can lift better than USSJ trunks so don't bring the muscle increase thing here, some stars are smaller than planets and goku at this level's energy was felt even outside of the universe, think even the largest star's energy can be felt even outside the universe? I don't.
@eddz99: only when he was fighting with a broken back using pure muscles, I can bet Mihawk would also be struggling with a broken back and arm like Black Star was....could he even stand up after a broken back and arm and still take fatal wounds like Black Star did such as tanking a laser to his face and eyes
Dunno, i don't watch one piece, but he could most certainly own current luffy who could do better.
@eddz99: 1 second is slow.
1 Second in the show, that is :P, actually he did it fast enough for buu to even react, the buu that was stronger than the buu who friggin outran ssj2 gohan, he also did it with vegeta who also has pretty decent reaction speed, i don't wanna start with this again since i posted so many times that raditz dodged a blast that reach the moon in seconds in point blanked range at 1200 PL
I am not sure he can beat Black Star easy in round two since Black Star will be serious and in Madness Release.
Mihawk's neva been serious
Same with Black Star or else he could had gone Madness Release and own Kishin.
But black star was indeed shown serious unlike mihawk.