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Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Goku vs Bleach Captains

@supernova7005 said:

@eddz99 said:

So you want to talk about naruto in a dbz vs. bleach debate? wahahah lol

I'm just giving an example. Using that solar flare logic, kid Goku would be even faster than people like Yusuke or Toriko since they never dodged anything instant.

@Kobra678 said:

What about the Popo training? Kid Goku should have been around mach 301.

Magical lightning created by a magical genie isn't necessarily mach 300, unless you can find a direct quote from the writer saying its natural lightning.

Except that yusuke has shown to be validly powerscaled to be faster than kid goku which makes a huge difference

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Goku vs Bleach Captains

@supernova7005 said:

@EraserCannon: Tao is not mach 28, he's just mach 14. That's not MHS.

You still haven't proved how DB Goku is faster than Yama. Show me evidence from the manga, or show some calcs which others have done.

@eddz99: Look at Naruto for example...Minato's teleportation is also instant. Now just because Raikage kept up with it and RM Naruto dodged Raikage, we can't say Naruto is MHS+, can we?

So you want to talk about naruto in a dbz vs. bleach debate? wahahah lol

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Goku vs Bleach Captains

@supernova7005 said:

@EraserCannon said:

Shut your fucking mouth, ho. Goku > Bleachverse in speed.

> No proof

> Keep trollling

> El Oh El

@eddz99: So kid Goku is FTL?

Nope, just should be much faster than hypersonic :P

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Goku vs Bleach Captains

@supernova7005 said:

@EraserCannon said:

@supernova7005: Shutup BL. They all get moon-busted. And if we also use scaling, Goku is easily MHS.

Moon busting or whatever DC doesn't matter when both sides can one-shot each other. Goku ain't tanking ZnT either.

They are both MHS, its impossible to know who's faster.

Btw I know you hate Bleach, and you're on this site just to troll me so this debate seems pointless :D

@DBZ_universe said:

Goku as a kid moved so fast that not even Tenshinhan's third eye could not see him or Kami.

Those are unquantifiable feats. And 'faster than the eye' statements are just tropes.

Goku can moon bust all of them or Kamekameha-round house them.
Goku can also boot his speed with a Kamekameha from his hand or feat to blitz Yamaji.

Yama can do the same...by spamming ZnT North. I don't think other captains can since they haven't shown anything that impressive, but Yama is on a whole other league than them.

Its impossible to know who's faster, so we shouldn't make any claims of speedblitz

Except that goku outrun the solar flare which you can't call an unquantifiable feat and slow since solar flare was shown to be instant.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Natsu Vs Enel

@bigz007 said:

@eddz99 said:

Atlas flame natsu should win if enel can't use haki

Enel is logia, so even without using his haki, he will electrocute Natsu.

I can't think of anything in FT verse that can replace haki (unlike chakra in Naruto and nen in HxH).

As the OP said, no logia intangibility , i say natsu wins with atlas flame and lightning dragon mode since he can eat lightning

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Natsu Vs Enel

Atlas flame natsu should win if enel can't use haki

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Wiss vs. Darkschneider

- Both at strongest

- No bloodlust

- No Holding back

- No prep

- No knowledge

- Both at full power

Place:

Empty void of space

Scenario 1: No dispel bound

Scenario 2: All things can be used

Note:

Wiss stated that bills can make the milky way galaxy disappear in an instant, which is actually a better statement than what i thought ( I thought it was the solar system in a blink of an eye but... http://www.dblegends.com/ )

And Wiss >> Bills so... Wiss should atleast be galaxy+ in terms of destruction and should be faster than bills, although he is considered glass canon for now since he doesn't have any defense feats, ssg goku was shown to tank the strongest attack of bills which should have been enough to destroy the galaxy ( as shown above ) so.... Wiss >> Bills > SSG Goku.

Edit:

It was whis xD

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Gogeta vs Overlord Zetta

@Kobra678 said:

@IndridCold: Gogeta should easily be FTL, can you give me reason to believe he isn't?

Because he obviously made this thread to make zetta win, which atleast he thought.

"Gogeta's durability is just like multi-planet+ and Janemba only had limited matter and spatial manipulation, Zetta would blitz Gogeta and proceed to spam eye blasts and magic spells on him."

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Goku vs. Frieza

I am hurrying so amma make this quick.

- Goku at buu saga, frieza when he was alive

- No bloodlust

- No prep

- Win by death

Place:

Namek planet

Scenario 1: Goku base form cannot use kaioken

Scenario 2: Goku base form can use kaioken up to x10

I made this battle because bills did state that goku cannot beat frieza at his base.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Aizen, Tosen and Gin vs. Four Heavenly Kings

@Grinpatch said:

@othus12 said:

@CallmeBrent: zebura would go meteor noise on the whole area, even if he cant see him right he can blow up the entire city

meteor noise takes some time and Aizen can make Zebura kill himself

Except now, toriko solos

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Buutenks vs Team... ( HST )

@DBZ_universe said:

Hey Toriko wanna eat Buu? here then lol

Hahahah exactly

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » How far would EoS Yusuke and the 3 kings get in DBZ?

@supernova7005 said:

@EraserCannon said:

Tao threw the pillar 2300 miles, iirc

2300 kilometers, not miles.

@eddz99 said:

1. Lol then there's no such thing as a conversation then, even so he said it in the manga.

I'm talking about the beam. In the manga, it was a different beam that piccolo fired at the moon.

And as for the conversation, Vegeta was still not in space even AFTER the conversation went on for a few seconds.

2. He was shocked

If you're shocked that a tiger is chasing after you, will you just stand there still doing nothing? Ofcourse not. That logic doesn't work.

Not to mention, he was shocked even during the time he dodged Piccolo's SBC

Chapter: 201 (DBZ 7), P7.2, P13.3

Context: said as Piccolo charges up the Makankosappo.

Raditz: “Th-this one's battle power is 1,020...30...!!! Un-unbelievable!!!! It's still rising!!!!

Raditz: “Battle power 1,330...!!!! He's gathered a-all of his battle power into his fingertips...!!!!”

3. It also happened in the manga, see it for yourself

He never said a word in the manga while firing the beam -http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/124813/2557010-piccolo_moon_buster2.jpg

5. There is, like tao pai pai throwing a pillar 1000 miles away

Which requires only mach 8-mach 14 speed.

6. It was in a fight, they were engaged in a COMBAT

Are you trying to say the gap between combat speed and travel speed is like 10000 times? Lol no.

7. Still puts my point, vegeta couldn't have descended to 10x gravity just because of his son.

It was 150x. Vegeta was trying to train Trunks at that level of gravity and make him go SSJ.

Anyway you talked about the conversation about yajirobe yet you keep saying manga.

Yes, the conversation with Yajirobe happened even in the manga....what about it?

Piccolo saying moon happened in the manga... what about it?

"Are you trying to say the gap between combat speed and travel speed is like 10000 times? Lol no."

Goku can't disappear while traveling/

"It was 150x. Vegeta was trying to train Trunks at that level of gravity and make him go SSJ." - lolno , vegeta was surprised trunks reached ssj

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » How far would EoS Yusuke and the 3 kings get in DBZ?

@supernova7005 said:

@Kobra678 said:

I never said that he is weaker than 3 kings Yusuke. We don't know how much stronger Yusuke got from end of 3 kings to EoS. EoS Yusuke might make the kings piss their pants as well, or he could be right at Yomi level, or even a little below that. Prime Raizen is waay overhyped. So you can't really put him at that far above the best fighter in YYH (which is Yomi or EoS Yusuke).

EoS Yusuke is also unquantifiable, but the way he's portrayed he's still far weaker than Raizen.

Prime Raizen is FAR above Mukuro and Yomi for all we know, and stated to be ATLEAST 100x stronger than what he was in the saga

Even at the brink of death, he could shake the entire plain of Makai with just the contracting of his muscles!! When did Raditz show something of that level?

Mukuro isn't faster than Raditz. He dodged relativistic speed beams. Albeit that they aren't the most consistent but either way he dodged them.

Kid Naruto blitzed Haku, who was stated to be lightspeed. Guess he's FTL now.....

We can't take inconsistent feats seriously.

@eddz99 said:

I'm getting owned D: amma go serious

Eh...Wat?

1. It is, look carefully in the anime , look at the beam, anyway since special beam cannon is his specialty that makes my point clearer since special beam cannon should be faster than any of his attacks as he was proud of it against raditz.

Anime is not canon. Try again

2. Common sense, he thought it wouldn't hurt him so he checked it first.

And? He had enough time to dodge since Gohan was several meters away.

3. It reached the moon before he said MOON, it can't possibly be fastmowed because there were words with it.

Anime again....show me a manga scan.

Moreover, there were words even with Goku's kaiokenx4 KHH....so this is once again a double standard.

4. Sorry but if you want to debate against that then make a new thread, anyone you think who is lightspeed vs. eos goku

K. Anyways, EoS Goku has nothing to do with this, so lets keep the topic aside...

5. Slowmowed as there were no words with it, their conversation is most probably a manga filler or just to make things clear.

There is no such thing as Manga filler

6. Has anyone taught you the difference about combat and travel speed?

Lol what? Nappa couldn't dodge Mach 60 (2x kaioken) Goku. Goku was flying at him from a long distance (aka traveling)

7. Goku carried 4 tons at 300 powerlevel ( It is stated in detail ), it is a plothole since goku at that level should be million times stronger.

anyway, if you say that ki has nothing to do with strength then explain trunks training at 400x gravity even if he has not done it before.

Trunks trained at 150x gravity...not 400x. Please read the manga before debating, dude.

And who said he hadn't done it before? Who knows how much he trained with Vgetea during the timeskip...

1. Lol then there's no such thing as a conversation then, even so he said it in the manga.

2. He was shocked

3. It also happened in the manga, see it for yourself

4. Yep

5. There is, like tao pai pai throwing a pillar 1000 miles away

6. It was in a fight, they were engaged in a COMBAT

7. Still puts my point, vegeta couldn't have descended to 10x gravity just because of his son.

Anyway you talked about the conversation about yajirobe yet you keep saying manga.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » SSJ3 Goku Vs Ichiryuu

@Raniero said:

Goku speedblitzes and one-shots in both scenarios is base SSJ form and then proceeds to solo the rest of the verse.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » How far would EoS Yusuke and the 3 kings get in DBZ?

@supernova7005 said:

@eddz99 said:

It's both special beam cannon so you can't really state it's a different beam.

The beam that he fired at the moon isn't special beam cannon. He fires it with the palm of his hand, not with his 2 fingers.

Raditz was surprised by gohan's powerlevel

What if he was surprised? He had enough time to record his power level, yet he fails to dodge it.

that and it should have been slowmowed

"slow"moved? Or maybe Piccolo's moon beam was "fast"moved.....

aka. double standard.

unless your saying that BoG goku is below lightspeed.

Who knows? There is no solid evidence to suggest anything other than Instant transmission is above lightspeed.

Vegeta was worn out,

So what? It was Goku who fired the beam and his power level was over 24,000.

and you know dbz tends to have lots of plotholes, you can't exactly call that beam a plothole because it had too much detail when it happened,

What detail? Goku's snakeway speed has much more detail, as BOTH the distance and timeframe are given.

If the beam speed is not a plothole, then guess GOku struggling with 40 tons is not a plothole since "40 tons" is stated in detail...

I'm getting owned D: amma go serious

1. It is, look carefully in the anime , look at the beam, anyway since special beam cannon is his specialty that makes my point clearer since special beam cannon should be faster than any of his attacks as he was proud of it against raditz.

2. Common sense, he thought it wouldn't hurt him so he checked it first.

3. It reached the moon before he said MOON, it can't possibly be fastmowed because there were words with it.

4. Sorry but if you want to debate against that then make a new thread, anyone you think who is lightspeed vs. eos goku

5. Slowmowed as there were no words with it, their conversation is most probably a manga filler or just to make things clear.

6. Has anyone taught you the difference about combat and travel speed?

7. Goku carried 4 tons at 300 powerlevel ( It is stated in detail ), it is a plothole since goku at that level should be million times stronger.

anyway, if you say that ki has nothing to do with strength then explain trunks training at 400x gravity even if he has not done it before.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » How far would EoS Yusuke and the 3 kings get in DBZ?

@supernova7005 said:

@eddz99: Raditz is not relativistic, nowhere close. Not to mention, its a different beam that Piccolo fired at the moon.

Its contradicted by the fact that Raditz was unable to dodge Gohan's headbutt, who should be slower than what Goku was on the snakeway.

One example of what happened far beyond the Raditz saga-

Goku blasts Vegeta with a KKx4 Kamehameha up to the sky.Yajirobe and Goku has a full slow conversation while having a bit of rest. In the end, Vegeta is only above the atmosphere.

If that was truly “lolrelativistic”, Vegeta would’ve entered into the space long time ago. And if it was “lightspeed”, then Vegeta would’ve been near the moon by now.

It's both special beam cannon so you can't really state it's a different beam.

Raditz was surprised by gohan's powerlevel that and it should have been slowmowed unless your saying that BoG goku is below lightspeed.

Vegeta was worn out, and you know dbz tends to have lots of plotholes, you can't exactly call that beam a plothole because it had too much detail when it happened,

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » How far would EoS Yusuke and the 3 kings get in DBZ?

@supernova7005:

Prime Raizen is an unknown. For all we know he could be weaker than EoS Yusuke.

That makes no sense because even dying Raizen was much stronger than Yusuke during the 3 kings saga. Prime Raizen is strong enough to make Mukuro and Yomi piss in their pants.

Agree with this, Prime Raizen > All in YYH

Raditz one-shots by destroying half of the Earth.

Except that Mukuro is much faster. Which results in Raditz getting cut up before he can use any attack

Lolno, raditz dodged a supposed to be relativistic attack ( seeing how it made it to moon from earth in like 5 seconds ) in a point blank range, let's see mukuro having a speed feat better than that, and don't give me that reaction crap because raditz dodged it after it was fired and even if it was by reaction raditz can also react to mukuro seeing that he isn't even near relativistic.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » SSJ3 Goku Vs Ichiryuu

@ROBOT6661 said:

lol goku wins stomps in both

What's with ikki hating dbz, he's using hax characters against a character with pure strength

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » The Sailor Scouts VS Freddy Krueger

@Sonata said:

@eddz99: No Freddy isn't Omnipotent in Dream World just tough to put down there. He can also be pulled out o Dream world if that happens he is finished in this battle.

He is in freddy vs. jason, even jason voorhees can't dent him on dream world, he also stated it himself he is god in dream world.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » The Sailor Scouts VS Freddy Krueger

@Sonata said:

The Scouts easily.

Depends if they fall asleep, if all the scouts somehow fall asleep freddy takes this easily, freddy is omnipotent in dream world.

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