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Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@taichokage said:

I can say that because it's literally not true. Omnipotent literally means all powerful without limit. If a character is stated to be able to lift 100 tons but then the author decides that they fail to do so, then that's that. Actions speak louder than words and if the author says one thing but contradicts it with his own actions which are at least the same value, then it is a contradiction. There's no arguing that as its a fact. Alien X is not omnipotent. His high showings and low showing are supersceded by any number of characters not labelled as omnipotent. The author claiming omnipotence in his own series and contradicts it in his own series is one thing. But in another series where that author's word and actions are king, he or she doesn't have to cater to the faults of the other author. If the creator of Battler Ushiromiya gave him greater power than the other author's interpretation of omnipotence, then that's the way it is. Within the Ben 10 verse that's fine. But Other series do not have to tolerate the flaws of another.

Like I said, the author is the "true omnipotent" he could do whatever the heck he wants and he'd know for a fact that it's true. If he decides that the character couldn't liftt it then that feat is fake. Real life is above fiction afterall. Writers > their characters. Omnipotence has always been above non omnipotents, therefore alien x wins tthis uunless we go by feats only. Since this battle is not held in either of the creator's verse but in a neutral one then the "mistakes" don't apply. It's not a "mistake", the characters wouldn't call it one if they could talk, since a true ommipotent did it.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@CosmicKnight75 said:

Your going beyond the story now by including things like it was written by someone. Unless the writer inserts himself into the series, that's a pointless argument. Guess what? Stan Lee inserts himself into Marvel as The One Above All who literally writes the Marvel Omniverse and he is simply described as Omnipotent.

Nope. You created the verse therefore you are the true omnipotent there no matter how many omnipotents there is since you are above them. Stan lee in real life is above stan lee in fiction since he can literally make his fictional self shit.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@SSJjanemba said:

ok Ailen x isn't omnipotent, still wins though :P

Inb4 the 100 post lock

Yep even if he wasn't. He still wins by feats, tanking the universe's destruction without a scratch is bad enough... but recreating the universe without effort. Lol.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@CosmicKnight75 said:

If my story was written to have that character lose their omnipotence in some way, then it's argued their not truly Omnipotent since something happened against their will. Hope you realize you literally just made up that idea "above omnipotence". If their above an Omnipotent being, then said Omnipotent being contradicts their title. It's simple as that.

It's already contradicted from the start since you yourself, their creator iz above them .

Since you are the "true omnipotent" you can remove their omnipotence all you want but since you know and announced they are omnipotents in the fictional world, then they are. Especially n battles with no authors or no true omnipotents.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@taichokage: You cannot say that they aren't omnipotent because you weren't the one who made them. They are omnipotents that the creator wants hurt, since the creator is the true omnipotent, the writer, he can do just that. Thus in fictional battles like these with no true omnipotents ( authors ) limiting them, they should be above everyone.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@CosmicKnight75 said:

Then being Omnipotent holds no real value by that logic since even that's not absolute and can be overcome, so Alien X being omnipotent doesn't mean a thing since he can still be overcome. I can write a story write now and include an omnipotent God and as long as it stays true and consistent without any contradiction ls to the definition, that's enough to make it so.

You yourself is the contradiction since you can remove your character's omnipotence anytime you want then he isn't really almighty because you yourself is greater than him, therefore you are the true omnipotent in that verse thus you can create a character that is above omnipotence, but non omnipotent characters from other verses is not gonna beat him.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@CosmicKnight75: He can be overcome by above omnipotence in his verse that his author said so.

So unless Hades is stated to be omnipotent, he isn't. So he isn't scratching an omnipotent from another verse.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@taichokage: @CosmicKnight75:

No anime character is truly omnipotent though, if they were then theyd come here and kick the ass of the creators lol

It's their verse therefore they can create above omnipotence.

It's like me saying i'm gay ( not true ) but i kewp dating girls BUT i know for a fact that im gay, nobodys gonna change tjat

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@taichokage said:

That's any author. And no, if there is a contradiction to omnipotence then it's not really true. Demonbane defeated an omnipotent. So what would that make him?

A main character lel. But really, the one he defeated is either defeated by plot device ( above omnipotence ) or because the author wrote it purposely to show that he surpassed omnipotence ( breaking the fifth wall lol ) since the creator himself stated it and he has 100 percent control over his characters I don't think minor contradictions is gonna change that.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

If you guys aant feat comparations then isn't Hades a universe buster at best?

Alien X tanked the universe's destruction without a scratch AND recreated it.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@taichokage: Don't know what to say, i'd still believe the creator because he'd win this little debate if he was here. All he needs to say is he wins this battle because alien x is omnipotent and alien x is omnipotent because he says so

@CosmicKnight75: i meant the author of ben 10.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Chimera Ant Arc Gon VS 21st Budokai Kid Goku

Goku wins all three easily. He was able to push a giant rock easily and matvhed against an opponent that destroyed the moon.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@EVA_01 said:

@eddz99: Lol at me for using my brain and not taking everything at face value....lol

Wait it seems like you don't know lel I'll explain.

The said character is made by the creator, therefore everything that the CREATOR says about him is a fact.

If i create a character and say he is omnipotent then he is omnipotent and no degree of debate cam change that.

Hence if you don't want the creator's trivia about alien X then make your own alien x then say he is only universal level for your satisfaction then make another battle using your own alien X xD

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@EVA_01 said:

@eddz99: Lol at me for using my brain and not taking everything at face value....lol

Lolwhat don't tell me you're actually debating against creator statements do you even know what that means? XD

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

@EVA_01 said:

@Falbium_Asmodeus: Yes! you really get me, man. The Choushin and TLT are perfectly Nigh-Omnis. Barring pre-retcon Beyonder and Molecule Man of course.

Yeah, if I were to correctly describe Alien X it would be this: "He's Just Too Goddamn Broken For His Verse!".

And like you stated, Tenchi and Z are capable of defeating him, yet they are considered to be nowhere near Nigh-Omnipotence.

Lol at this dude trying to debate against creator statements.

If you don't want alien x to be omnipotent then make your own ben 10 fanfiction LOL

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hades(Saint Seiya) Vs. Ben 10(Alien X)

Alien X is omnipotent as stated by the creator, it had limits but ven surpassed it, and he even said that alien X is nowhere near god level in his verse LOL

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Kaguya, Sasuke, Naruto, Hagoromo, Madara Vs Goku , Vegeta

This debate still going?

No bloodlust team naruto stomps, goku and vegeta gets haxxed.

Bloodlust team 2 stomps. Team one aint dodging and tanking a speed ki blast.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » The House of Evolution Vs The Three Legendary Sannin

@othus12 said:

the sannin get pwned by asura rhino.

Hahahah even the monster trio gets overpowered

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » 8 Gates Guy runs the DBZ gauntlet!

@luthluth said:

Piccolo at Namek saga should be able to destroy Mars

Before or After he fused with Nail?

Before he fused with Nail then yes he should be able to do it with middle effort.

After? lol he busts multiple neptunes. easily

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Kaguya & Juubidara & Juubito & Hagoromo vs. Four Heavenly Kings

Naruto Top Tiers

Four Heavenly Kings

Rules

Four Heavenly Kings Cooking Festival Arc version.

Team Naruto at their strongest.

Place is at AoT Forest

No knowledge

No prep

Deathmatch

Round 1

Bloodlust

Round 2

No bloodlust

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