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Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » jotaro kujo vs gohan

@SMXLR8 said:

@othus12 said:

@eddz99 said:

Gohan's combat speed and reaction time should already be above lightspeed at this level.

not enough to blitz.

also no one in DBZ has FTL combat speed

Lol, Combat speed > Travel speed, bills is at the level of BILLIOS of MFTL as he traveled across the universe, want me to demonstrate the speed chart again? The piccolo - raditz - etc. cycle? lol that's down rating bro, watch dbz and take notes

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Mystic Gohan Vs Ichiryuu, Jirou, Midora, Joa, Starjun

@othus12 said:

we havent seen the other 2 yet people throw their money at gohan, lol fail.

Yeah and we haven't seen the full feats of dbz chars yet ( maybe never but oh well ) yet people keep making battles about them, lol fail.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » jotaro kujo vs gohan

Gohan's combat speed and reaction time should already be above lightspeed at this level.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » jotaro kujo vs gohan

Unless jotaro has some kind of hax, he shouldn't be touching gohan

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Mystic Gohan Vs Ichiryuu, Jirou, Midora, Joa, Starjun

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

@eddz99: While that may be the case with DBZ, that is not the case with all verses, an example that contradicts this would be in YYH when Yusuke is powerless to stop 3 human students due to their hax territory ability, while Yusuke himself was far more powerful in every other stat, though I still agree that Gohan wins this

Because they were ambushed though, that just sux, hax should be disabled ( protesttt ) lol :3

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » SSJ3 Goku Vs Ichiryuu, Jirou, Midora

@5th said:

Put these guys against a few Saint Seiya characters and lets see who're the true monsters ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Well in the future, toriko might surpass saint seiya chars

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Mystic Gohan Vs Janemba

Well i made a thread like this before that says gohan wins so..

Gohan wins.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » King Piccolo vs Hiei and Kurama

@supernova7005 said:

@eddz99 said:

LOL You cannot say that because ALL the techniques shown so far in the scouter multiplied powerlevels which indicates that you can't say that the others wouldn't because 100% of the techniques shown multiplied powerlevels.

1. Because the red ribbon army has many tricks

2. Attack potency

3. ^

4. ^

Not to mention KP is 260 and Roshi is 200

Eitherway, if you believe it's an outlier or not ( i don't since it's canon, only people who cry because their fave chars lose call it an outlier , nope, he can enchance his defense with ki )

He would kill sensui

Show me which all techniques have multiplied the users power level....only kamehameha and special beam cannon have been shown to do so. Not to mention, Special beam Cannon has multiplied his power level even more than Kamehameha does, so this proves different attacks have different multipliers.

You still didn't answer me question about Tao. Do you believe the grenade has moon level potency because Tao got destroyed by it?

1. What tricks do they have? He didn't even try to blow up the RRA's base. If fodder RRA can beat Roshi, I see no reason why Sensui can't.

2. Its not just attack potency.

Chapter: 161, P13.4

Yajirobe: “But man, what kind of a guy are you?...I can’t believe you beat someone who could blow a city to pieces…

What does this imply? It implies Yajirobe (who was on par with Kid Goku and Roshi), can't even beat a city buster. City busting was considered a great feat at that point in DB.

3. ^

4. ^ (and even the word "city" is mentioned)

I'm not crying about which character can beat who, neither do I take VS debates seriously. C'mon bro, its just fiction.

Doesn't matter if he can enhance his defence or not, since he hasn't shown moon level durability (or anything above city level). He ain't close to beating Sensui or any upper A classes.

1. Tao was beat by a bomb because of plot, goku had become 3x stronger in 3 days? That should have been impossible because goku barely became 20x stronger in the otherworld in 7 years.

2. So you're saying that dr.gero ( android ) has only city level destructive capacity? Since yamcha was shocked when he destroyed the city LOL fail

3. ^

4. ^ ( and even the word "city" is mentioned)

Me neither.

It wasn't an ordinary grenade btw, tao tanked a kamehameha from goku which matched master roshi's , the grenade is the one that was an outlier or plotdevice.

Eitherway, piccolo also busted a moon at 320 so it makes it less of an outlier.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » King Piccolo vs Hiei and Kurama

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@eddz99: You do realize the Kamehameha only raised his power level to 924 right? And Piccolo's SPC was over 1,200, where did you get 1,200? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. The best choice for me is too ignore you simply because you're having problems understanding what's being talked about this debate.

Yep, forgot since i watched it 5 years ago lol, anyway point still remains but mind changed, either of them solo but not EASILY.

Still, everyone's techniques multiply the powerlevel by a CERTAIN amount depends on the quality of the technique, think roshi's full kamehame ha can beat king piccolo? Roshi was made a bitch by king piccolo.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Mystic Gohan Vs Ichiryuu, Jirou, Midora, Joa, Starjun

Gohan wins this without much effort as i now believe that hax doesn't work on stronger beings ( Which i don't see happening because i see hax not working to beings much more powerful than you anymore, like krillin's hax cutting technique not working against cell and general blue's stare not working against tao )

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11
Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Atlas Flame Natsu Dragneel Vs Grand Magic Games Arc Laxus Dreyar

@Ikki_Minami_ said:

@DBZ_universe: You mean his Dragon Force? Like he did against Natsu before in their first fight?

Remove lightning dragon mode and make this Etherion natsu, Atlas flame natsu >>> Etherion natsu

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Frieza vs Toriko and Zebra

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Even if Frieza is not serious I believe he can win. I mean he did blow up a planet for the hell of it. Why not this one? The only reason he didn't blow up Namek is because he wanted the dragon balls.

First time i saw you siding to the dbz side :3

Frieza only loses this at h2h and speed equalized , frieza should win this unless if he gets affected by conduct of king ( Which i don't see happening because i see hax not working to beings much more powerful than you anymore, like krillin's hax cutting technique not working against cell and general blue's stare not working against tao )

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Frieza vs Toriko and Zebra

@Son_Wukong said:

If Frieza's not serious he won't care who he's fighting he'd just blow up the planet and go back to tend to his empire.

^

@supernova7005 said:

I'm surprised Toriko-verse has become this strong now

^ Me either, i am surprised that toriko verse has become this strong enough for people to actually say they would win to such characters, but my mind still stands... They only take this because of hax ( Conduct of the king + the hair )

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Mystic Gohan Vs Ichiryuu, Jirou, Midora, Joa, Starjun

@ChromeDisaster said:

Really? This is no different than the one with SSJ3 Goku. But Gohan loses all rounds. Especially rounds 2-3. All it takes is Starjun's Conduct and that's it for him

^ This, conduct of the king, hax is all that matters, but who knows ( general blue's hax stare that was believed to work on everyone was no effect to general tao, maybe it's because gen tao is stronger? ) it all depends on that.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » King Piccolo vs Hiei and Kurama

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Also to add with the whole "techniques raise power levels" Raditz was surprised to see Goku and Piccolo could even do that. This implies those are the only techniques that can. So supernova7005 has a point.

He was surprised that their powerlevels raised to 1,200 that means he was surprised that their powerlevels multiplied to such extent, other techniques also multiply but not to such extent, how do you explain vegeta's final flash and goku's kame hame ha matching each other if only the kamehameha multiplies your powerlevel, think bro... think.

@supernova7005 said:

@eddz99 said:

LOL You cannot say that because ALL the techniques shown so far in the scouter multiplied powerlevels which indicates that you can't say that the others wouldn't because 100% of the techniques shown multiplied powerlevels.

1. Because the red ribbon army has many tricks

2. Attack potency

3. ^

4. ^

Not to mention KP is 260 and Roshi is 200

Eitherway, if you believe it's an outlier or not ( i don't since it's canon, only people who cry because their fave chars lose call it an outlier , nope, he can enchance his defense with ki )

He would kill sensui

Show me which all techniques have multiplied the users power level....only kamehameha and special beam cannon have been shown to do so. Not to mention, Special beam Cannon has multiplied his power level even more than Kamehameha does, so this proves different attacks have different multipliers.

You still didn't answer me question about Tao. Do you believe the grenade has moon level potency because Tao got destroyed by it?

1. What tricks do they have? He didn't even try to blow up the RRA's base. If fodder RRA can beat Roshi, I see no reason why Sensui can't.

2. Its not just attack potency.

Chapter: 161, P13.4

Yajirobe: “But man, what kind of a guy are you?...I can’t believe you beat someone who could blow a city to pieces…

What does this imply? It implies Yajirobe (who was on par with Kid Goku and Roshi), can't even beat a city buster. City busting was considered a great feat at that point in DB.

3. ^

4. ^ (and even the word "city" is mentioned)

I'm not crying about which character can beat who, neither do I take VS debates seriously. C'mon bro, its just fiction.

Doesn't matter if he can enhance his defence or not, since he hasn't shown moon level durability (or anything above city level). He ain't close to beating Sensui or any upper A classes.

I'll reply to you tomorrow, don't have much time left, :)

So you're saying that 2 feats on dragonball are outlier? since piccolo at 320 also busted a moon.

Anyway.. Dub error ( lol on that )

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » King Piccolo vs Hiei and Kurama

@supernova7005 said:

@eddz99: Explosive demon wave doesn't multiply the user's PL, neither has it been recorded. Hence why Piccolo had to resort to Special Beam Cannon to kill Raditz.

Ofcourse it seems as an outlier, otherwise you'd be saying Tao is moon level though he got destroyed by a grenade. Now the grenades in DB are moon level in potency? Lmao.

A few more reasons-

1. Roshi couldn’t/cannot beat the street level Red Ribbon Army.

2. Multiple instances of shock and awe at lesser feats.

3. Acknowledging lesser said feats as more powerful.

4. And said lesser feats he acknowledged only being city/island level at max.

Not to mention, Roshi's attack takes too much time to charge up and KP hasn't shown the ability to do it any easier.

Either way, if you believe its an outlier or not, anyone from Sensui and above would just punch KP's head off before he can use the so called "moon" buster.

LOL You cannot say that because ALL the techniques shown so far in the scouter multiplied powerlevels which indicates that you can't say that the others wouldn't because 100% of the techniques shown multiplied powerlevels.

1. Because the red ribbon army has many tricks

2. Attack potency

3. ^

4. ^

Not to mention KP is 260 and Roshi is 200

Eitherway, if you believe it's an outlier or not ( i don't since it's canon, only people who cry because their fave chars lose call it an outlier , nope, he can enchance his defense with ki )

He would kill sensui

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » SSJ3 Goku Vs Ichiryuu, Jirou, Midora

@EraserCannon said:

FTL Toriko characters? Get out. SSJ3 Goku, all scenarios, lol.

@Son_Wukong said:

@EraserCannon said:

FTL Toriko characters? Get out. SSJ3 Goku, all scenarios, lol.

Also this :)

Thanks guys

:D

@EraserCannon said:

Buu Saga base Goku would take this, Jesus Christ, the Toriko wank is off the charts

^ This

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » King Piccolo vs Hiei and Kurama

@supernova7005 said:

@eddz99: That post was not just for you.

Roshi's feat is an outlier. Even if you don't consider it to be an outlier it doesn't matter since

1. The daizenshuu says KP only has the power of a small nuke.

2. KP's explosive demon wave doesn't multiply his power level like Roshi's max kamehameha does.

1. Post the link, it may be just another person's post

2. You can't say that since all the techniques shown so far multiplied powerlevels.

It can't be considered an outlier since it happened in a canon saga in a canon moment with toriyama not stating that it is an outlier.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Namek Saga SSJ Goku Vs Sunny

@ChromeDisaster said:

@EraserCannon said:

@ChromeDisaster said:

@EraserCannon: There has never been a ki blast with that scale of damage. If you mean techniques with multi-planet level capabilities, that would be a totally different situation.

And he will do it the same way he did Toriko's 32 Ren Twin Kugi Punch that shattered a mountain.

EDIT- It was a 36 not 32 Ren

What are you talking about? You agree that a Ki blast from SSJ Frieza Saga Goku would kill Frieza in his third form, correct?

......maybe........lol. But yes, it could

It would, frieza can't even tank a full blast even at full form ( not 100% but perfect form )

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