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Battles » Gotenks vs First Form Janemba

@DBZ_universe:

Explain why super buu wasn't around? There wasn't any time in between.

Even if he did not wanted to beat fat Buu, he still said that only fat Buu was the one who took him to his limits.

Yep who forced him to become super saiyan 3, but we don't know if it was at full power since he was holding back, he also stated it.

SSJ3 Gotenkusu one shots Super Buu.

Lolwut? They were matching. Unless you mean fat buu? If you mean that then another speculation lol

EDIT:

I meant it's not a speculation, but he most certainly would'nt stomp or one-shot fat buu.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Gotenks vs First Form Janemba

@DBZ_universe:

Movie 12 is around Super Buu arc.

Another speculation...

Lolno, gotenks already mastered fusion there.

EDIT:

Then why give gohan a speculation boost of power in broly second coming in a debate?? I smell favoritism here.

Anyway, as i stated, goku wasn't intending to fight buu, he wants to hold him off, therefore we haven't seen him at full potential on his ss3 halo.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Gotenks vs First Form Janemba

It's 1v4 huh? Classic :P, i don't have much time but i'm gonna do this.

@SpeedForceSpider:

1. You don't even know what the meaning of debatable is?

If you base it on percentage then jesus christ is true because more than 50% believes in him, but yet it's still debatable.

2. I was just making an opinion on your statement that has no proof lol.

lol Gotenks one shots. Even Super Janemba would lose.

3, ^

4.

But let's see, Goku was putting up a decent fight with Janemba before the sword came out no?

Let's break it down using the classic DBZ powerscaling:

Janemba > SSJ3 Goku

SSJ Gotenks(manga) > SSJ3 Goku

That means,

SSJ3 Gotenks >> SSJ3 Goku

Ultimate Gohan >> SSJ3 Gotenks

Then it's obvious,

Ultimate Gohan >>> SSJ3 Goku

in conclusion,

SSJ3 Gotenks > Jamenba

Ultimate Gohan >> Janemba

I was implying to super janemba with sword and janemba was not given a chance to power up, and you can't use that powerscale anymore since you don't know how much goku has improved and you don't know how strong he is when he has unlimited energy. See it's debatable, not because i say that janemba would beat gohan but because you can't get a clear answer.

Therefore you are coming up with a speculation.

@Carter_esque: @Sonata: And why?

@DBZ_universe:

LOL! Mystic Gohan would mop the floor with Super Janemba.

SSJ3 Halo Goku was putting a decent fight against him. If Goku was able to put some hits on him then SSJ3 Gotenkusu would not have trouble doing that. He will dominate Janemba and destroy him with ease. Also we have Gotenkusu's cocky attitude here. I say that because that will give him an even more advantage. Gotenkusu will call Janemba an idiot, stupid, dummy ect...and when he sees Janemba in the floor in pain he will see that's his weakness. Gotenkusu calls him stupid multiple times and sends ghosts to dispose of Janemba...simple as that.

I put S. Janemba below the level of Super Buu since Goku managed to put hits. Now SSJ3 Goku would get destroyed by Super Buu that he immediately asked Vegeta to fuse in order to fight him since he knew they had 0 chances.

LOL! Nobody knows that.

We don't know how strong that version of goku is, he wasn't going serious against fat buu, and since that was after buu, we don't know how much he improved.

And i was using super janemba with sword version, he wasn't even given a chance to power up.

He will dominate Janemba and destroy him with ease.

Another speculation because of above reasons -.-

stupid multiple times and sends ghosts to dispose of Janemba...simple as that.

Warp makes gotenk's ghosts go back at him. He wasn't shown to get annoyed to jokes so therefore he won't be, he is only annoyed at beings stronger at him ( proof, gogeta. )

put S. Janemba below the level of Super Buu since Goku managed to put hits.

Again, we don't know how strong goku at that time is, and janemba was not powered up AND goku wasn't going serious against fat buu AND i was referring to janemba with sword who stomped goku... Another speculation i see.

Now SSJ3 Goku would get destroyed by Super Buu

Enough with speculations -.-

Lol, y'all keep throwing speculations at me, i know it is because there's not enough proof and the other is non-cannon, hence that's why i say it's debatable.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Gotenks vs First Form Janemba

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@eddz99:

1. Who cares.

2. 40% is less than half, by statistics Gohan stomps.

3. Learn to debate, if you think Gotenks or Gohan loses explain properly.

4. You need to stop relying on others to answer for you.

1. You don't care because only you and the other 60% doesn't care.

2. It's debatable.

3. I stated my opinion, it's up to you whether you want to prove that gohan can stomp super janemba.

4. ? lol

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Gotenks vs First Form Janemba

@SpeedForceSpider: Nope, it isn't for you because you are deciding for yourself, i made a super janemba vs. mystic gohan thread before and about 40% of the people sided with janemba if i recall.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Gotenks vs First Form Janemba

@SpeedForceSpider said:

lol Gotenks one shots. Even Super Janemba would lose.

Lolno, it is even debatable if mystic gohan would win against Janemba.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Kenshin Himura vs. Afro (2 Rounds)

Afro stomps, afro dodged lasers and bullets, cut rockets and cut robots, don't get me wrong, i like kenshin, but afro is just insane.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Asura and Yasha vs Super Janemba

Tho i don't know about asura and yasha i can comment in one thing

"Asura can destroy a planet with one punch"

Gogeta's punch made janemba go down who would roflsuperstomp frieza who took vegeta's blasts at 500,000 like it was nothing who could roflstomp vegeta at 18,000 who was a planet baster.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Bojack vs SSJ2 Adult Gohan

I think this is ssj gohan?
Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » LSSJ Broly Vs SSG Goku

@DBZ_universe:

"But still Broly was not blood lusted, if he was then Piccolo would had exploded from the first hit.

Another speculation :3

My opinions are based on facts, plot-device is a lame excuse used by guys if they do not want a certain ugly feat, besides it was a feat that they could gather energy, i already explained that. All anime also revolves on plot, therefore the thing you call "Plot-device" is part of the story.

Broly is not Zaraki, nor are their attitudes the same, that's why broly got angry because they keep getting up.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » LSSJ Broly Vs SSG Goku

@DBZ_universe: Lolno, it's all about plot because it's CREATED, it's not like it was ACTED, that's why i don't believe in plot device thingy unless it is stated.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » LSSJ Broly Vs SSG Goku

@DBZ_universe said:

@eddz99: I told you that Broly loves to toy with his foes to have fun. Similar to Kenpachi restraining him self so the fight becomes longer and more satisfying. If he one shot them then it would not be very fun at all.

You really can't prove that since kenpachi has no goal, while broly has been LUSTING to kill goku for years.

If he was toying then he would've been able to tank that last punch from a couple of super saiyans ( Not a plot device ).

I doubt it was even FPSSJs

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » LSSJ Broly Vs SSG Goku

@DBZ_universe: You're using speculations.

I already explained that destructive capacity doesn't matter to dbz and i also PROVED it. Yet you keep throwing that DC thing at my face.

Two punches from ssj2 gohan made cell who was > fpssj so damaged. Yet when broly was beating them to the ground they kept standing up ( You still cannot call this a plot device ).

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » LSSJ Broly Vs SSG Goku

@DBZ_universe: Well i'll put up a good debate for goku since people here doesn't really put up one ( I'm not siding anyone here, i just wanna debate with someone =) )

1. You cannot call something a plot device just because you don't like it, it is actually a FEAT that saiyans can gather their powers like they did with goku in BoG.

2. By the logic you are using, goku ssj1 at the movie is stronger than goku ssj2 canon because broly is always bloodlusted at LSSJ and he had so much lust to kill goku, yet he can't do it instantly ( Don't call it poor writing or plot device because it's just a sucking reason used by someone who doesn't like a suckish feat, and it's not too obvious to be a plot device since it has no signs, therefore it's not a plot device ), while gohan ssj2 who was weaker than goku ssj2 beat kid cells who was equal to if not greater than an FPSSJ in an instant.

3. It's not calculated by feats but by the powerscale, if you agree that goku ssj1 at the movie is stronger than goku ssj2 canon then i won't bother debating with you ( it's something to lol at though. ). The powerscale you calculated is wrong since you think that LSSJ broly > SSG Goku.

Here is an example of a debatable powerscale:

Column HeadSagaPowerlevelFeat
RoshiMid DB139Moon Bust
PiccoloEarly Saiyan300+Moon Bust
NappaLate Saiyan7,000City Bust ( Could probably planet bust, i think this because of his conversation with vegeta when he destroyed a planet. )
VegetaLate Saiyan18,000Planet Bust
N/A
N/A

Roshi at 139 busted a moon, Vegeta at 18,000 busted a planet, therefore we could actually use this kind of calculation: If roshi busted a moon at 139, and 18,000/139 = 129, therefore vegeta can bust 129 moons at once ( or one planet, this feat was shown. )

Therefore if goku ssj is at 150,000,000 then... Namek saga ssj goku can destroy... atleast 1079136 MOONS in an instant.

So i say that destructive capactiy doesn't matter on DBZ, it's the attack potency since punches that do not even destroy a country do hurt villains that tanked planet busting attacks/durability.

You also can't say that only kamehameha or special beam canon multiply powerlevels, actually all beams does it just depends on the quality of the beam technique.

That's all for now, i forgot what i was going to say xD

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Sasuke vs. Justin bieber

Both current

Both at full power

No bloodlust

No prep

No knowledge

DEATH match

Justin bieber has 1000 soldiers with machine guns under his control, with one general making it 1001

Scenario 1: Serious fight

Scenario 2: Gag fight

Place:

Dbz cell games

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Whos is the strongest character that Arale Norimaki can beat

@DBZ_universe said:

@Sonata: That is true.

Also Toon Force works on non fiction too seeing how toons were able to roam our world (looney tunes movies) and use their powers.

Arale should be no different considering she too has the power but not as high as Bugs or other toons.

Don't forget the crimson chin! xD

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Ichiryuu vs Cooler

@Saiyan007 said:

[img]http://imageshack.us/a/img23/874/dbzsaiyanpodspeed1.png[/img]

[img]http://imageshack.us/a/img801/2937/dbzsaiyanpodspeed2.png[/img]

[img]http://imageshack.us/a/img22/9005/dbzsaiyanpodspeed3.png[/img]

[img]http://imageshack.us/a/img22/3580/sspeed.png[/img]

1.The first three oictures are King kai able to track down FTL spaceships and make an estimation on when they will arive

2. The last picture is king kai losing track of SSJ goku and freiza fighting implying they were FTL+++ at the time

and cooler is stronger was above ssj goku at the time so yeah......

Everybody knows that at ssj, goku is already above lightspeed.

So it's useless to mention it here.

Anyway that's some good connections of pics.

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Rinku vs Killua

If it's killua on his evil mode then Rinku dies. If it's killua on his normal mode i say rinku 6/10

Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11
Post by eddz99 (2,656 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Ichiryuu vs Cooler

@luthluth:It COULD be, but for now it was not shown to be an exaggeration so therefore it is not considered one.

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