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Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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Battles » Bills and Whis vs Omega Shenron and Super 17

@nishi99 said:

I think a lot of you guys forgot that BOG is post Buu saga. Goku could be way stronger in base just like GT. And again The Universal Spirit Bomb seems like BS to me. Did Goku really gather energy from all the planets in the universe? I doubt it to say the least.

Then what's the point of this?

Base GT Goku (Start of Series) =/> Z SSJ3 Goku

Base GT Goku (Shenron Saga) =/> BoZ SSJ3 Goku

@taichokage: Read the post again, it makes sense but it's hard to believe because even if SSG is 1000x stronger than SSJ3 BoZ, GT SSJ4 Goku is still much stronger than Whis.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Bills and Whis vs Omega Shenron and Super 17

@nishi99: however, you're also forgetting that start of series gt goku also got stronger in base in shenron saga

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Bills and Whis vs Omega Shenron and Super 17

Akira said that whis is 15 bills is 10 and ssg is 6.

Let's say ssj3 goku is 100x weaker than ssg which equals to 0.06.

Since base gt goku (shenron saga ) is equal to ssj3 goku (boz)

He is also 0.06

Now let's add the transformationa

0.06x50 is 3 = Ssj gt goku

3x2 is 6 = Ssj2 gt goku, he is already ssg level ( assuming it is x100 ssj3 which ia highly doubtful )

6x4 is 24 = Ssj3 gt goku ( above whis already )

X10 that LOLOLOL

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Bills and Whis vs Omega Shenron and Super 17

@niBBit said:

Powerscaling wise DBZ gets massacred. GT is a alternative universe where Goku at base can take on SSJ3 lvl opponenets like Rildo and casually solo Super Perfect Cell and Frieza who are stronger than before whitout skipping a beat. Seriously how strong do people think SSJG is compared to Goku SSJ4? if GT Goku at base lvl is around Goku SSJ3 lvl from DBZ then that means GT Goku at SSJ3 is around 50 times stronger than his DBZ counterpart witch is huge! and i'm not even talking about SSJ4. Do people really think SSJG gives like a x100 boost? come one we don't even know for sure if SSJG is stronger than Vegito and if he is maybe its just by a little and Vegito isn't a 100 times stronger than Goku SSJ3 and here's why:

People believe that that Gotenks SSJ is around Goku SSJ3 lvl, alright lets go with that. Now add the SSJ2 and 3 transformations above that and so that makes Gotenks SSJ3 around 6 times stronger than Goku SSJ3. When Super Buu absorbed everyone his power should have increased by alot 10-15 times sounds alright. Vegito in the manga was SSJ when he beat Mystic Buu and Vegito was winning that fight quite handily but Buu made Vegito sweat a couple times more so when Buu lost his temper and tried to destroy everything. That tells me that Vegito is stronger but not to the point he can tank everything wihtout problem like Frieza vs namek warriors style. So if you add everyhing up SSJ Vegito is perhaps 50-60 times stronger than Goku SSJ3 witch would be the same as GT Goku SSJ3. Now how much stronger is SSJG compared to SSJ Vegito? Bills is strong but THAT much stronger than Vegito? no way. There are even people saying that Vegito needs to be SSJ3 in order to beat Bills, witch would make him 6 times stronger well....

We don't know how much stronger SSJ4 is for sure. What we do know is that Goku SSJ3 lost to Baby Vegeta in freaking base form and then Baby absorbed the powers from Bula, Goten, Trunks and Gohan and then munches on the energy from the entire human population and for his final act goes freaking Golden Ape witch at least gives him a x10 boost.... and Goku SSJ4 was still stronger. Sorry but imo Bills is gonna have trouble handling an SSJ4 nevermind freaking Omega Shenron, the dragon who beat the ever living crap of the entire Z cast (twice), 2 SSJ4 at the same goddamn time all the while he lost his 4 star ball, ohw and Goku SSJ4 was even juiced up in that fight, ohw en Omega tanked the Big Bang from goddamn Gogeta SSJ4, ohw and surived the suicide attack from Nuova ohw and he regen'd back from Goku's insta win HAX attack Dragon Fist. It took a super charged Spirit Bomb to put that f****r down. What did Bills do? beat the Z cast and beat an SSJG.

Bills or SSJG has shown me nothing impressive, nothing Vegito could't do. Bills beating SSJ3 Goku or Bills beating the Z cast? Gohan SSJ2 showed what a x2-3 difference in power means... so yeah Vegito is gonna have some REAL problem defeating people who are 50 times weaker than him haha. Really every single time i read treads about GT its always people voting against it, i swear right now i can make a tread about Goku SSJ4 vs Frieza and people will pick Frieza because *lol GT sucks lol Goku cut by glass* its the only thing you hear from people. Yes GT has shit logic and stupid shit but DBZ isn't a stranger to that either. So yeah i vote for the SSJ4 class super android who can absorb energy and counter teleportation and survive a SSJ4 kamikaze attack and the dragon with elemental abilities and regeneration who was defeated by an super charged spirit bomb after he got blown to hell by an HAX attack and took a beating from a almighty fusion character.

Welcome back? :0

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Bills and Whis vs Omega Shenron and Super 17

By feats, Bills solo

By powerscaling, Whis would be the only threat. Team 2 wins.

SSG Powerup is not enough to make up all the years that GT Goku trained, whilst Base Goku GT is at SSJ3 Z Tier.

Also adding the fact that he got much stronger after getting the SSJ4 transformation.

Omega shenron was toying with 2 of them.

OS > Whis > Super 17 > Bills

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Atlast Flame Natsu vs. Second Gear Luffy

@Jinbeifan1: Natsu second origin is also much faster than jellal is, except that this one has atlas flames which boosts his speed even more.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » 3 disciples, 4 Heavenly Kings, Joa Vs SSJ Goku, Final Form Frieza

@othus12: I have to say i agree, there should be a clear rules here in animevice whether a feat is accepted or not, whether the high end has more importance or the low end.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Which Naruto characters can defeat Raditz?

@Dream said:

Master Roshi blew up the moon with a PL around 120 (rounded for simplicity).

Many consider that feat an outlier/ inconsistency. In comparison, Piccolo Daimao, who is shown to surpass Roshi in power, was only city-level in destructive showing with his best attack, the Demon Destructive Wave, that he is clearly shown to be exhausted in using after several consecutive blasts with it.

It took a concentrated moon-level attack to kill him. One that made it to the moon instantly.

Take it you are basing this off the anime's take on the attack. In the manga, we never have a specific time frame as to how long it took Piccolo's ki attack to hit the moon. Is it moon-busting? Won't dispute that. Is it and other early Saiyan saga characters light speed? Going off the manga, doubtful considering earlier speed feats up to that point in Dragon Ball.

There were two instances that moon busting was shown, one was with Roshi, the other was with piccolo.

Although no exact time frame was shown, it was fast enough to reach the moon before Gohan could deal serious damages.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » 3 disciples, 4 Heavenly Kings, Joa Vs SSJ Goku, Final Form Frieza

@othus12: I can't say that it's not the same for Toriko and all the other shounen animes.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » 3 disciples, 4 Heavenly Kings, Joa Vs SSJ Goku, Final Form Frieza

Bad writing is double edged for the both of us, it can be for faster or slower.

goku was calced at mach 27 due to the time it took him to cross the snake way. yet at this point he was stronger than raditz.

Raditz dodging special beam canon point blank, and it was SIDESTEP which should be slower than running.

What else would be the distance of earth to moon? He may have not intended it, it was still canon, otherwise he would've rejected the feat.

if an obviously stronger character performs a lower end feat we can consider the first one an outliner.

You're saying that frieza is only city level? They were all so shocked that gero destroyed the city. This proves the " bad writing " point on my side for this one.

It wouldn't matter much for the speed of light no matter how close you are really, anyway it was shown to be as close as goku and frieza fight.

Even kid goku was shown to make tens of afterimages.

No matter how you look at it, ssj level is already ftl.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11
Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Atlast Flame Natsu vs. Second Gear Luffy

@Jinbeifan1: Wasn't Natsu fast enough to overspeed jellal pre second origin? :O And atlas flames > etherion. :O

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Atlast Flame Natsu vs. Second Gear Luffy

@takashichea: Oh yeah, the reason was, it didn't say it was posted, then i noticed the title and changed it.

Thus creating twin but not duplicate threads.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Atlast Flame Natsu vs. Second Gear Luffy

@takashichea:

Okay thanks. I can barely post images o.o

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Atlast Flame Natsu vs. Second Gear Luffy

Natsu vs. Luffy

Conditions

- Enies Lobby Arc Luffy

- Natsu when he was fighting future rouge

- No bloodlust

- Deathmatch

- Both at full health

- No Knowledge

- No prep

- Infinite duration, and no cost of second gear and atlas flames.

Rounds

Round 1: Normal Battle

Round 2: Nakama power activated

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11
Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » 1000 Brolys VS Ajimu.N (Medaka Box).

What the...

... I thought 2 omnipotents on a thread aren't allowed? :O Yet there are 1,000 :O

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Pre-Timeskip Team 7 (Naruto) Go Up Muscle Tower (Dragon Ball)

Stops at outside, but then kakashi escapes and owns everyone upto level 3.

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Gogeta vs Gotrenks

Buuhan > Gotenks buu =/> Gogeta base >> Super Buu =/> Gotenks SSJ3

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