eddz99 (Level 10)

@ReiKai said:

"The History of Trunks" movie is canon because it connects with the main series and exists as thus because of events and one can say that Trunks' interference in the past was always meant to happen. Either way it proves that DBZ is a multiverse with infinite alternate timelines and Bulma's Time Travel tech is flawed as it can only alter the events of Another Timeline and not their own. The majority of the movies also fall within Alternate Timelines/Universes due to events and things within those movies. Such as Movie 8, Mirai Trunks is present, but also Goku and Gohan could both go SSJ but did not remain in that form throughout the movie, despite taking place within the 10day period leading up to the Cell Games as when they appeared leaving the RoSaT. Another instance is Trunks' outfit being different. Trunks was wearing Saiyan Armor before and after leaving the RoSaT, yet in Movie 8 he was wearing what he did when he first traveled back in time while retaining the longer hair. Other instances in other movies, such as Tree of Might, include characters being alive who're supposed to be dead during that point in time. So these are clearly instances of Alternate Timelines with events relative to those of the Main Story but do not connect with them in order.

Actually alternate timelines can only be created if someone disrupts it, please read.

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The full reason why i think broly wins with med diff.

1. I don't think that the movie is based on an alternate universe because remember, there cannot be an alternate universe without anyone disrupting it, example, the main universe was all Z fighters except trunks should have died, the sub universe ( The main universe of the series ) where all the Z fighters survived is because of the disruption of trunks.. The movie has no one disrupting it thus it being called " Non canon "

2. With the point i stated above, teen gohan ssj2 is far stronger than hs gohan ssj2, i see hs gohan ssj2 spc level.

3. Gohan who was at 50% ( But boosted by goku with WORDS , goku didn't really give any power, it was in gohan's imagination ) was matching SPC who was at full power ( Otherwise, cell wouldn't have lost even if vegeta, who was nothing to him, disrupted ), even PC was kicking the asses of the Z Fighters ( FPSSJ, Super namekian etc. ) and SPC is much stronger than PC ( Obviously ) This shows the obvious difference between ssj2 and FPSSJ.

4. Gohan being ssj2 on his fight with broly is still debatable since there was no lightning surrounding him ( The lightning serves as the ssj2 trademark for me because without it, it wouldn't be obvious if they were ssj2, specially for vegeta ) Either the artists failed to draw the lightning ( Which is easy ) Or just made a mistake, adding one bang.

@Gsp22 said:

Buuhan would win, 2 reasons why 1.fusion is weaker then the potara fusion been stated by the kai(so in my opinion Gogeta could be equal or alil bit stronger than Buuhan) 2.The 30min time limite, and Buuhan knows of this weakness because of absorbing gotenks so if Gogeta is stronger than Buuhan,then Buuhan will use the knowledge he aquired from absorbing Gohan and piccolo to hang on till 30min pass..

Your first point is obviously wrong, for the second point, goku and vegeta aren't idiots.

@nishi99 said:

@eddz99: You mean Raido and Genma they are not real Jonin they are Tokubetsu Jonin aka Special Jonin like this guy.

So they are chunnin? :P

@DBZ_universe said:

@eddz99 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@evilvegeta74: Even still, Gohan was still stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Also I am sure Gohan did trained since Videl is his wife and she would want him to train.

So yes Gohan would had done a better job as SSJG than Goku.

Gohan didn't really earn his mystic saiyan state, he really didn't spend any effort, unlike goku who really spends effort on getting power, gohan is useless without others' help.

Gohan was born gifted. Gohan doesn't need training to get strong. He surpassed Goku easily in days.

His SSJG would be stronger

That's the point, he doesn't even work to get strong, that's why he doesn't deserve it, unlike goku who keeps on surpassing him even though gohan is gifted.

@nishi99 said:

@Galenbeta: The sound four had a hard time with pre time skip Kiba Neji Shikamaru and Choji. Zabuza on the other hand lost too Kakashi a top jounin level ninja and Haku was said to be even stronger by Zabuza himself. Plus the the sound four never showed jounin level feats once.

The four of them did beat 2 jounins.

@DBZ_universe said:

@evilvegeta74: Even still, Gohan was still stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Also I am sure Gohan did trained since Videl is his wife and she would want him to train.

So yes Gohan would had done a better job as SSJG than Goku.

Gohan didn't really earn his mystic saiyan state, he really didn't spend any effort, unlike goku who really spends effort on getting power, gohan is useless without others' help.

@ReliusClover said:

Kyo as in Demon Eyes Kyo? Horrible speedblitz is bound to happen.

The full reason why i think broly wins with med diff.

1. I don't think that the movie is based on an alternate universe because remember, there cannot be an alternate universe without anyone disrupting it, example, the main universe was all Z fighters except trunks should have died, the sub universe ( The main universe of the series ) where all the Z fighters survived is because of the disruption of trunks.. The movie has no one disrupting it thus it being called " Non canon "

2. With the point i stated above, teen gohan ssj2 is far stronger than hs gohan ssj2, i see hs gohan ssj2 spc level.

3. Gohan who was at 50% ( But boosted by goku with WORDS , goku didn't really give any power, it was in gohan's imagination ) was matching SPC who was at full power ( Otherwise, cell wouldn't have lost even if vegeta, who was nothing to him, disrupted ), even PC was kicking the asses of the Z Fighters ( FPSSJ, Super namekian etc. ) and SPC is much stronger than PC ( Obviously ) This shows the obvious difference between ssj2 and FPSSJ.

4. Gohan being ssj2 on his fight with broly is still debatable since there was no lightning surrounding him ( The lightning serves as the ssj2 trademark for me because without it, it wouldn't be obvious if they were ssj2, specially for vegeta ) Either the artists failed to draw the lightning ( Which is easy ) Or just made a mistake, adding one bang.

@Kobra678 said:

@eddz99: When did they hit him just by looking at him?

Made shenron fly

Gogeta is non canon so i can use GT as a reference, both goku and vegeta at ssj4 got owned and ass kicked by omega shenron, when they went gogeta ssj4 they could even beat him just by looking at him. So gogeta wins this.

Madara should win once ulquiora gets caught in the illusion.

@DBZ_universe said:

Mirai Torankusu needs another appearance.

Yea, a canon one

@WorldEater said:

@taichokage said:

I thought Bills already effortlessly beat Gotenks in the movie. How come your threads are usually one sided and you don't partake of your own threads?

I don't partake because I am trying to find a good battle to make. My battles are mismatches because I can't find a good battle to make.

Why not ss god goku vs. vegito ssj1

@nishi99 said:

Vegito both rounds he was toying with Buuhan at base.

Nope, he had a hard time against angry buuhan that he had to go ssj

@Masterofdeath said:

@YouFinished: would it be better to switch it to beginning of part 2 Naruto?

Use BM Naruto without any consequences and energy drain so it would be fair? :O

@DBZ_universe said:

@eddz99: What?

Gotenks Super saiyan god version ( lol )

@DBZ_universe: This is probably why broly can bust a galaxy while goku ssj3 can't though.

Why EoS dbz blasts don't destroy planets.

@GIRUGAMESH said:

@SilverGalford: I guess you could say that Trunks was able to cancel out the blast, or some shiz along those lines.

That logic isn't only seen in DBZ/anime though, you see it a bit in comics. For instance, in one issue PR Molecule Man fired a blast at PR Beyonder that was stated to have enough power to destroy billions of dimensions, and yet it didn't even destroy the room they were in. It's pretty much that kind of thing that explains why the attacks of later series characters in DBZ don't immediately obliterate planets (they focus their power, or something along those lines, I guess). I agree it does seem a bit stupid at times though.

Pretty much this. Odin for example manged to K.O the Silver Surfer with an energy blast the size off a small car. It's a consistent thing in both comics and manga for blasts of incredible power to not have massive collateral damage. DBZ characters can concentrate there attacks so that they don't mess up everything. Nappa is a casual City buster but none of his blasts vs the Z warriors left a city size crater that he's obviously capable of producing etc etc.

Credits to Nibbit, Girugamesh and SilverGalford.

- All at full power

- No bloodlust

- Vegito has knowledge about buu's ability to turn people into a candy, other than that... No knowledge

- Buuhan and Janemba in perfect sync or perfect teamwork

Round 1:

Base form Vegito

Round 2:

SSJ Vegito

Place:

Hell ( where janemba and goku fought )

@DBZ_universe: Not if this is the legendary fusion super saiyan god version ( Hope this happens to vegito in future movies )

Well that's because of akira's bullshitness which made this happen T_T, if only he tried to make things clear.