Echelon9 (Level 9)

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Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: The definition of "life energy" is very vague. You don't even have to corporal to be alive. Even the DBZ wiki generalizes ki energy as having great emphasis on the body. So that's where it basically comes from. Star seeds contain life energy, meta energy, spirit energy all converted into cosmic energy when the seed is manifested. In the SM verse the body, mind, and soul can all be ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: Exactly. They don't use ki or life energy. They use cosmic energy derived from a power source called a star seed, which includes the physical body from where ki is found in DBZ. So ki energy alone isn't going to affect them. Which is why we use the law of equivalence to state that both types of energy are equal to each other in a crossover battle. Saturn would ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@AnimeDefender: He gets a pass in this case since he's not the one who created Broly's story.
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: Law of Equivalence. Ki is part of the body; the body is part of the star seed. Your logic fails.
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: She didn't wipe the solar system? The explain how people on the Moon and as far away as Pluto saw the glaive fall and die instantly. The series would never had started if she hadn't of done this. Jesus fuck you're retarded. Based on your shitty argument that doesn't follow the law of equivalency, ki wouldn't affect her because it doesn't exist in her universe. Only cosmic energy has ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: So because she was awakened, like Goten did Broly, that's help. Don't be retarded. Wiping the solar system and killing everyone is her power. She got no help with that. So based on your logic Saturn isn't going to be affected by ki because it doesn't exist in the SM verse, Bleach characters are invisible to nearly to every other verse, and illusions will only work if you have ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94 She didn't have help. They summoned her there to kill everyone. You can deny the context all you want, still doesn't change the fact that Broly's going to die, and the match is a stalemate.
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@AnimeDefender: Really, then how was it used to put out a fire if it burns as hot as the sun? Also explain why Goku's first kamehameha that he shot at a car left it crumpled instead of outright incinerating it or making it explode. The logic doesn't make any sense.
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: So we agree Janemba > Broly at least. I did prove my second point removing the star seed = instant death. If you want to treat this battle under the law of equivalency where Saturn is even affected by ki in the least, then Broly damn well would have a star seed to be manipulated. This is two way dance comparing the components of two different series. Don't be ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: Energy doesn't have mass to generate heat. At be consistent with the laws of physics if you feel like casually breaking them. The movies do not all share the same director. Stay mad because I proved how stupid your logic is. Really, where's Broly in Movie 12 then? Was he among the fodder that got killed on Earth because he was too much of a pussy to challenge Janemba? ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Some of these are hilarious. Well done. And the multiversal Thought Robot stomps. Oh well, might as well join in.
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: Pure ki energy wouldn't have mass to generate heat. Cooler's movie is irreverent in this argument since it has a different director entirely. It worked just as we saw it - the kamehameha punched him into the sun, it exploded, Broly wasn't affected until the sheer heat of the sun killed him. Go back and watch it again. His dad tried to use telekinesis generated artificially and the device ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: Saturn doesn't use ki. Her attacks do conceptual damage. Do you even understand what that means? She wouldn't just be targeting his body, but his mind, soul, and very concept of self. This is a tangible attack that hurts intangible beings. Why? Because the attack is abstract in nature, representing the very element of death to anything that exists. Broly puts up his cute little ki shield and the ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@ReiKai: Actually those burns were likely caused by friction, instead of heat from the blast. But are you going to ignore the part of my argument where Broly obviously can't defend himself against her attacks but she can? You've seen the movie. You think the explosion he caused that blasted Trunks and Goten out of SSJ would do anything to her when I showed evidence that she can easily resist ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: Wrong. Dropping her glaive means all life within the range of the solar system is immediately wiped out. Anyone with less than star level durability would die instantly. Watch the movie again. As soon as Broly's body hit the Sun it immediately began to break down and a second or two later he was vaporized. The kamehameha wave doesn't have heat behind it. It's just a concussion force. Otherwise ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@ReiKai: Resistance is a type of durability though, and his shields are ki based. If that's the route you want to go, fine, Saturn's resistance is higher than his. Which means that she can hold her own against his ki attacks, but what protection does he have against hers? None. Her attacks are capable of dealing conceptual damage as well as ripping a body apart. If she drops her glaive ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: Anime continuum is not connected to the movie continuums Mr. Beck. I'd think you'd know at least that much. What does Fusion Reborn have to do with the Broly movies? Nothing. And reducing yourself to flaming, and attempting to rehash old issues that I've already proven wrong because you know I just trashed your arguments. You asked for durability feats and I gave you them. Show me Broly flying ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@ReiKai: He didn't ask for speed; he asked for durability feats and that's what I clearly showed him - scans for them standing on and flying next to a giant star without any problems at all. It helps when you read the arguments before you type. If Broly had been blasted by a kamehemahe from 2 SSJ2's the sun would have exploded, but it didn't. That means either they weren't ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: Anime isn't canon. Invalid information. The sun + the kamehameha killed Broly? You just destroyed half your argument if you think Broly stomped an SSJ2 Gohan in the movie. That meant Gohan either wasn't using his full power against Broly, or he held back as to not to destroy the sun when he blasted Broly into it. Either way it means that Broly is less powerful than an SSJ2 ...
1 year, 2 months ago
Echelon9 replied to the topic broly vs sailor saturn on the Battles board.
@Platinum_94: Thanks yet again for the brilliant showcase of stupidity. Nappa with planet level durability? Broly defeating a star buster when he was clearly shown being owned by the Sun in the movie? That's it, you have officially proven yourself to the be the Glenn Beck of DBZ wankers. Her attacks deal conceptual damage that Broly can't block or defend against. And his measly planet level blasts aren't doing crap ...
1 year, 2 months ago
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