Dream (Level 20)

the Bijuudama have been calc'd consistently at mach 143

Where the hell are you coming up with this? Now I'm convinced you're just wanking the hell out of Naruto.

Yes I have the "gall" to think Naruto and Bee are all that's needed, if you really think flight and town level attacks are gonna mean much to them you're wrong. The Bijuudama expansion rate and size is too huge for them to just move out of the way, especially if they're being spammed by two bijuu

The shinigami among the Soul Society aren't fodder ninja like the ones that had problems handling the Bijuu within the world of Naruto. They are considerably faster (high supersonic to hypersonic speeds) and have far greater destructive capacity than what many characters in Naruto can dish out. The larger variant of the Bijuu Bomb requires time to charge up (which many Shinigami could take advantage of to attack) and the spammable version can only fire several balls at a time with the attacks not being as powerful as the charged version and could still be easily dodged by shinigami in the air (especially considering its gonna be difficult for the two Bijuu to even get an accurate attack in on their foes in flight when many of them are as fast as they are). You're giving Naruto and Bee too much credit if you think they can handle everyone in the Soul Society all at once.

@YoungChief: Naruto and Killer Bee are the only heavy hitters among the Shinobi Alliance, while many among the Soul Society are capable of multi city-block to town scale destruction. Not to mention the Soul Society has a considerable advantage in that many of their members are capable of flight, which would make it quite difficult for the two Jinchuriki to even connect with any attacks. As taichokage discussed, there's a considerable gap in stats between the high-tiers of Naruto and other ninja within the series where many in the Shinobi Alliance could be easily picked off by members of the Soul Society. The combined might of the Soul Society would be too much for Naruto and Bee to handle all at once (since you have the gall to think those two could do the job themselves).

@SpeedForceSpider: Yeah, it will go that route. You can go ahead and start the battle off. I'm a little busy with things at my end since I'm presently working on stuff with my current Ani-Crap Review

@SpeedForceSpider: At the moment, I'm not buying the OBD's assessment on Claymore's ridiculous speed boost since it's only going by the calculation of the distance that the island setting of the series is set in. Those on my team who are hypersonic in speed are only around Mach 10-30ish, with Ciel being the slowest on my team at the high-end of supersonic speed.

@SpeedForceSpider: Ummm....

Have any objection to equalizing speed for this match? The speed of several of the characters on your team greatly surpass anything that my team is capable of holding up against.

Wanting to pummel whoever thought up the idea of making something like Astarotte's Toy.

As of this post, have just a single episode left to go through of it for my Ani-Crap Review.

That's quite the stacked team. O_O*

All right, guess I'll start off with introducing my team.

-Solty Revant- My team's powerhouse for melee combat. An android who is capable of casually lifting giant mecha and tossing them miles up into the air and can vibrate her arms to allow her to break through thick layers of heavily fortified steel. She can use the vibration ability to allow herself to fly as well. In terms of speed, her movement and reaction time are easily in the double-digits of hypersonic speed as she intercepted a giant laser that could wipe out city blocks and flew from the upper levels of the planet's atmosphere into space in a matter of seconds to go after a space station about to attack her home city, evading much of a heavy bombardment of missiles and lasers coming from the station. For durability, she is above city-level as she tanked the explosion of said space station when she destroyed it and had enough power to destroy an entire city. She doesn't seem to take electric attacks too well though, as enough voltage from weapons or abilities of the sort can incapacitate her and leave her vulnerable to attack.

-Chise- The powerhouse of my team for ranged combat. Has a wide assortment of heavy weapons she can form from her cyborg body such as cruise missiles and various laser weapons that can wipe out multiple city blocks. Her most destructive ability is to use the energy within her wings to nuke an entire area, which is destructive enough to wipe out an entire city and any geographic features within it, with earthquakes and energy spikes triggered in vicinity of the blast as an after effect from the attack. Obviously, she has flight abilities and is well within hypersonic speeds with it as she blitzed past a fleet of bomber planes while wiping them out. Her durability is at city-level as she normally triggers her nuking ability within the center of the blast, with only her clothes taking any visible damage. She has also demonstrated some limited abilities in technopathy and telepathy, the former I don't think will get much use in this tournament and the latter getting some possible use with Chise transmitting her thoughts to her teammates.

-Rider- Being the mythical Gorgon known as Medusa, Rider has superhuman attributes like other Servants within the Holy Grail War as she is among one of the fastest in it, being capable of hypersonic speeds that allow her to keep up with Lancer. Like the real-life mythical figure, Medusa's eyes are capable of petrifying anyone within eye sight of her if they have little to no expertise of magic. Those adept with magic or of supernatural status can resist the effects of the ability, though they will still be weakened to an extent while Rider's eyes are open. She normally wears a blindfold to seal the effects of her eyes, though is still capable of fighting normally thanks to her heightened senses. Rider does have the ability to temporarily amplify her attributes, though prolonged use of the boost can result of her succumbing to a monstrous rage. Her Noble Phantasm, Blood Fort Andromeda, allows her to create a barrier around an area to entrap an opponent and absorb their life force to use for mana reserves. As her name implies, Rider is capable of summoning a pegasus into combat that has a high level of resistance to magic and whose wing flaps are powerful enough to create heavy shockwaves that can damage buildings and cause lacerations to foes. The charge of the pegasus is powerful enough to level a skyscraper. Rider also has a second Noble Phantasm called Bellerophon which is a golden harness that she attaches to her pegasus to amplify its abilities when it goes into a charge. She can also use the harness on herself to make herself into a human projectile.

-Mikoto Misaka- Possibly the weakest member of my team as she only has the strength and durability of a normal human. However, her ability to manipulate electricity as an esper makes her a foe not to be taken lightly. She can make use of her power to fire off coins like a railgun as they can travel at hypersonic speeds and level buildings. Her body is capable of generating high voltages of electricity, enough so where she can generate enough heat to trigger thunderstorms and trigger heavy electric charges. She also uses her power to generate electromagnetism, as she can take control of metallic objects to toss at foes, gather up the iron in the air to form various weapons, boost her speed and generate a sonar-like effect that lets her track invisible foes or attacks coming from blind spots.

-Seras Victoria- Alucard's beloved vampire underling from Hellsing. After feeding on Pip's blood, she became a full-fledged vampire whose superhuman attributes were greatly amplified as she gained hypersonic speed that allowed her to blitz Zorin Blitz (ironic name, is it not? :P) and fight evenly with the Captain. She regenerated her severed arm into shadow-like material with properties similar to Alucard's as she can form it into differing weapons, create familiars to attack foes from a distance and absorb her foes and make them into a familiar within her body. She can see through illusions and is capable of absorbing the memories of others by draining them of blood. Normally goes into battle with different heavy weapons built in mind for her superhuman strength, particularly the two variants of the Harkonnen which are 30 mm cannons.

-Ciel- Tsukihime's resident curry fiend and Church Executor. She has superhuman attributes with speed on the high-end of supersonic as she can keep up with most Dead Apostles (vampires) in combat and is efficient in the use of differing weapons and magic. She normally makes use of two different weapons when in combat: Black Keys and the Seventh Holy Scripture. Black Keys are bladed weapons capable of harming spirits and can immobilize a target by pinning down their shadow, normally keeping a large arsenal of them on her when needed. The Black Keys also have magical runes on them which Ciel can activate to inflict differing magical effects on her foe if she pierces them with it, varying from burning, dehydration, petrification and being attacked by crows. The Seventh Holy Scripture is a cannon-like weapon forged from the horn of a unicorn and dead girl's soul, with the weapon's blade capable of screwing up regeneration when it stabs its foes and its fired shells capable of vaporizing foes down to their very soul, effectively wiping them from existence. Her magical abilities include a hypnotic ability called the Mystic Eyes of Whisper that allow her to manipulate those within eye sight and she is capable of regenerating any damage inflicted upon her so long as her brain isn't destroyed. So long as the vampire Roa exists in the world, Ciel also has a form of immortality where she is incapable of dying and her body reverts back to the point in which it originally was before any damage was inflicted on her.

-Priscilla- Claymore's all-powerful Abyssal One. She possesses monstrous strength, enough so where she could catch a projectile attack coming from the giant fused Awakened Being known as the Destroyer and wrecked its outer shell in a single attack. Priscilla is easily at hypersonic speeds and among one of the fastest characters in the series, easily faster than other Abyssal Ones like Riful. She is capable of flight thanks to her wings and possesses a high regenerative rate, the most potent within the series. She is capable of forming parts of her body into spiked tentacles that she can use to ensnare, damage and rip apart her foes.

Bloodlusted, Supes fries the planet with heat vision to leave the two DBZ characters to get vaporized.

Soul Society rather easily. Most of the Shinobi Alliance are fodder and even with Kage, Jinchuriki or other high-tiers among the alliance, the Soul Society has too many characters with high destructive potential, flight advantage and hypersonic speed for the Shinobi Alliance to handle all at once. If Aizen's among the Soul Society numbers, it only worsens defeat for the Shinobi Alliance with Kyouka Suigetsu in effect.

@Yusuke52: I'm not disputing the fact D's uber since I asked about his abilities a while back. I just can't take Raigen's word too easily considering the issues he has had on other forums like the OBD.

@Yusuke52: From what I'm reading, laser feats in fiction aren't so straightforward in labeling light speed as they depend on factors such as whatever means the laser is fired, if they can be seen, the application of real-life physics, direction, etc...

Think I see where you're thinking the bolt is relativistic now, Raigen. You're mixing up the return stroke (the flash coming from lightning which can travel at the mentioned speeds you're bragging about) with the step leader (the bolt that comes down which is significantly slower [only about Mach 284]).

@Yusuke52: I thought lasers were nowhere near relativistic speeds.

@Yusuke52: Heh, so I guess Raigen screws up on his knowledge again.

@Yusuke52: So the bolt's actually the step leader?

@Destinyheroknight: Actually, I think I might have an idea now on where some sites and folks are getting triple-digit mach speed for a bolt.

From this site (Check section saying Mechanics of a Lightning Strike):

A lightning bolt begins with the development of a step leader. Excess electrons on the bottom of the cloud begin a journey through the conducting air to the ground at speeds up to 60 miles per second. These electrons follow zigzag paths towards the ground, branching at various locations. The variables that affect the details of the actual pathway are not well known. It is believed that the presence of impurities or dust particles in various parts of the air might create regions between clouds and earth that are more conductive than other regions. As the step leader grows, it might be illuminated by the purplish glow that is characteristic of ionized air molecules. Nonetheless, the step leader is not the actual lightning strike; it merely provides the roadway between cloud and Earth along which the lightning bolt will eventually travel.

So let's see: 60 miles per second would be 216,000 MPH (about Mach 284). Still leaves the question of how the much higher speed is calculated considering (like you), I'm not an expert at this either.

@Destinyheroknight: Okay, so the sources I did pull up were accurate.

But now I'm a little confused since said sources are saying the speed would be 224,000 mph, while that amount of mileage would occur in a minute with the mps equation.

Regardless, that kind of speed is barely even relativistic from the math I've calculated, if this is true.

@Destinyheroknight: Is the "m" miles or meters?

EDIT: Never mind, it's in miles.

Pardon me for seeming stupid on this. I know that a ground-to-air bolt is significantly slower than the speed of light (which most battle forums seem to acknowledge yet a certain someone who will remain nameless insists that it is at relativistic speeds in his thread for whatever reason) and characters capable of reacting to one are capable of massively hypersonic movement/ reaction speeds in the triple digits for Mach speed. Factoring the amount of electron voltage in the air and planetary physics, does anyone have a clue what the average speed of a lightning bolt is?