This is so one-sided, it isn't even funny. If Pennywise could get offed by normal adult humans, then the Saiyans would hardly have to do much in slaughtering the clown.
Gonna have to lock this up.
With how heated this is getting, I might as well lock this before things get worst.
@Kurohige: @CerusSerenade: I suggest you two chill out the next time you debate one another.
Cerus, if I see you make things get heated in another thread again, I will temp-ban you.
Even factoring in Vegeta at Cell Saga, I still picture the Saiyan prince prevailing here due to greater experience and equivalent power level. Gohan was rusty from neglecting his training for so long after the timeskip and even his SSJ2 form was only comparable in strength to Dabura, who was stated to be as strong as Perfect Cell. In comparison, Gohan in his FPSSJ form at age 11 was equal to Cell's Perfect form in power despite his hesitance at wanting to fight the bio-android. As long as Vegeta doesn't get arrogant and careless, he should be able to win most scenarios against Gohan due to greater fighting experience.
Dai-Gurren Brigade leads 3-2 and Seven Seas Alliance leads 4-1. With the first match close, I'll let voting continue into tomorrow.
@CerusSerenade: Again, no. It's not the LHW that make Z inferior to Tenchi. It is Tenchi being the avatar of the higher being that the Choushin are seeking out.
@CerusSerenade: Z can't use LHW for material conversion abilities like Tenchi can. However when he cancelled out Tenchi's LHW, it led to the battle attire, shield and sword Tenchi created to vanish as a result which left Tenchi very vulnerable as he lacked a means to attack and defend himself before his power surged out of control. Leaving out the connection to Kami Tenchi, Z had more LHW and more experience at using them while Tenchi can only unleash his in life-threatening situations and not as much experience with controlling them.
Been meaning to come up with one for the Holy Grail War from Fate/ Stay Night as there's quite a bit of history and details to it that you wouldn't find mentioned from any of the anime titles for Fate that covered the 4th and 5th Holy Grail Wars. But because of how comprehensive the information is for it and the large amount of time I would have to devote just to prepare everything in it, I have yet to work up the motivation to do so.
Z's LHW are inferior to Tenchi's.
If we're talking power from LHW, Z would be superior in this case since he cancelled out Tenchi's three LHW with three of his five to leave the boy vulnerable to attack. It's more Tenchi's body being an avatar of Kami Tenchi that makes him far superior to Z in raw power, something the boy is still rather inexperienced in learning to harness and control.
Do we have proof that Z is actually universal?
He's universal level on the fact his LHW are capable of negating anything equal to or lower in power to him down to zero and this is based off Tenchi unleashing his power when Z with 2 LHW attempted to strike him down as the resulting attack from Tenchi killed him and was causing a multiversal collapse from Tenchi's body trying to enter other dimensions. Human users of LHW gain double the power from each LHW being generated, meaning that Z with 5 LHW would be capable of fending off an attack that could wipe out up to 10 universes at once before getting killed off. There's an equation used to determine this as the value of 1 LHW is 1 and each additional one made has the number double due to twice the energy being generated for each additional one created:
Basing this off Z's 2 LHW he had remaining before getting offed by Tenchi's attack, we divide 31 by 3 (the number of LHW he used to negate Tenchi's) to get 10.3333...
Would have to go with Vegeta. As discussed, Gohan's power weakened and his fighting expertise was somewhat dulled due to the years he had not trained since Cell's defeat. On the other hand, Vegeta continued to rigorously train throughout the years where his power increased greatly and he's a more experienced fighter as he can be a competent tactician so long as he doesn't hot-headed. The Saiyan prince would be on Gohan's level of power, but his greater fighting experience would allow him to overcome the boy in a fight.
@jashro44: If you're gonna go about with this, I'd suggest you set up a pair of matches to run for set periods of time for folks to decide on. Deciding the whole thing in one lot would be too convoluted to figure out.
Also, why do some of your brackets have teams going up against one person?
Shichibukai leads 2-1 and Seven Seas Alliance runs unopposed with 3 votes.
Both get their power from their creators
This is only the case with LHW used by Juraian spaceships when they draw upon Tsunami's power. Z, Tenchi and the Choushin draw their power in forming LHW directly from a higher plane of existence in which they manifest this energy into physical constructs. The ones formed by Juraian spaceships are inferior in power since they do not draw power directly from this higher plane and can not use LHW simultaneously for offense and defense.
@Saladking: Refrain from any insults unless you want a warning.
@CerusSerenade: Same applies to you since you're fanning the flames.
@Kurohige: The whole mess with properly assessing the capabilities of Umineko as a whole were what led me to have to ban them a short time ago.
I won't comment on the match since I'm unfamiliar with the Tales franchise. But I will comment on some things with Z since I'm a Tenchi Muyo fan myself:
The LHW make Z barely a low-level multiversal as two LHW can hold up against attacks up to universal-level and each subsqeuent LHW formed grants its wielder twice as much power in abilities. He'd be screwed over against a true multiversal being put up against him. But those at universal-level or lower are still fodder for him since the wings can fends off against any destructive power and haxes equal to or lower than his present level of power and nearly anything that are struck down by the LHW are wiped out from existence. It's not destructive capabilities that make Z such a threat with his LHW. It's the fact that the LHW can fend off against mostly any form of conventional attack and hax, being one of fiction's most broken defenses and its offensive uses allow one to ignore physical durability and anything that would result in an enemy to revive (resurrection, regeneration, reincarnation, etc...) to wipe out a target from existence.
Shichibukai and Seven Seas Alliance both have 2 votes each.
Like the series for the most part thus far as it is one of the more complicated and tense titles for the year thus far. Do have a couple gripes: Five's childish and maniacal behavior at points during her faceoffs with Nine and Twelve makes it hard to take her as a serious threat at points and I'm befuddled over what sort of role Lisa's supposed to play as she hasn't been of much use or relevance in the series thus far beyond being damsel in distress.
Voting time is up and the First Round is finally over. Shibusen and the Hunters Organization plowed through their opposition unopposed and are the last to advance to the Second Round, which shall begin right now with this first set of matches.
In a post-apocalyptic future where humanity live underground in fear of the mutant beings called Beastmen, a human resistance movement is formed to combat the Beastmen threat. Led by the hot-blooded young man Kamina, this team is known to steal the Beastmen's personal mecha, Gunmen, for their personal use and for relying on reckless tactics in the heat of battle. The team would also reform years later to combat the threat of the alien being known as the Anti-Spiral. This is Gurren Lagann's Dai-Gurren Brigade.
And their opponents...
This group consists of several powerful and notorious pirates who have allied themselves with the World Government as privateers. They are used by the World Government to conquer other countries to expand their territory and keep other pirates in check. However, this group is known to not always follow their assigned orders and do not think very highly of one another. All of them have a very jaded outlook on life and are looked down upon by both Marines and other pirates due to either being considered sell-outs to the government or being no different from other pirates. This is One Piece's Shichibukai.
A prominent global superpower within its series, the army of this alliance of countries are formed as a peacekeeping and defense force led by the King of Sindria, Sinbad. The countries within this alliance all contribute their military forces to be led by the rulers of each country within the alliance and have power as such to threaten the foreign influence and military expansion of the Kou Empire. This is Magi's Seven Seas Alliance Generals.
Notable Members: Sinbad, Jafar, Masrur, Yamraiha, Sharrkan, Pisti, Spartos, Hinahoho, Drakon, Armakan Amun-Ra, Mira Dianus Artemina, Rametoto, Darius Leoxses, Nerva Julius Caluades, Ignatius Alexius, Muu Alexius
And their opponents...
This organization of students at the Afterlife School are formed as sort of a resistance movement to try provoking God's presence under the belief that God is somehow responsible for the sufferings all the members in this group had in their former lives in the living world. Led by Yuri, the group are known to provoke God via targeting the Afterlife School's student council president, Angel, under the belief that she is working with God. The group is broken down into several divisions that are responsible for purposes such as diversionary tactics, making weapons and gathering intelligence. This is Angel Beats' SSS.
Voting will end on either Sunday or Monday. Have fun voting!