Dream (Level 20)

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Battles » Four Heavenly Kings vs. Saber

Would be amusing to see how Saber does in an eating contest with these guys. :P

Kidding aside from what I'm looking up on them, the Heavenly Kings pack enough strength and durability on them where Saber would be having quite a bit of trouble taking them out individually and any clean blow they deliver to her from an attack would cripple her greatly and maybe even be fatal. While she has a speed advantage over all four being capable of Mach 15 speeds, I don't think regular sword strikes are working on the Heavenly Kings meaning Excali-blasting would be Saber's only resort at taking them out individually once she gets enough distance from them.

Against all four, I think Saber may be screwed. The numbers game would work to the advantage of the Heavenly Kings as their combined use of melee and ranged attacks would prevent Saber from having any time to prep an Excali-blast and leave her on the defensive until she is eventually plowed down.

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Battles » Erza vs Saber

A bad match for Erza to be in considering Saber's many advantages: Mach 15 movement and reaction speed, precog-like battle instincts, town-busting attacks via Excaliblasting, high resistance to magical attacks, Avalon.

Pretty much, Erza is quite screwed here.

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Battles » Akatsuki Vs Fantastic Four

@TheNeutralOne: Even if Sue had time to prep a force field, she's still vulnerable to genjutsu and I don't think it would help fend off blows from Susanoo if Itachi goes in for an attack considering Susanoo's ethereal properties.

As for Johnny, water jutsu from Kisame would screw up his ability to "flame on" for enough time where he becomes shark bait. Using his Nova Flame would fuck him over as well with Tobi being among Akatsuki's ranks. While the flames could engulf enough of a wide area to dispatch nearly all of Akatsuki, they would also vaporize the other Fantastic Four members (which can happen in this case since all characters are bloodlusted in this match) and Tobi would milk use of intangibility to prevent being affected by the attack. The attack would also exhaust Johnny of his power reserves where he would need half a day to fully recover from using the Nova Flame. With his teammates offed and having no energy to "flame on" due to exhausting all his reserves, Johnny would be helpless to Tobi.

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Battles » Akatsuki Vs Fantastic Four

I'm assuming this match is supposed to involve the well-known team of the Fantastic Four of Mr. Fantastic, Thing, Human Torch and Invisible Woman.

@UltimateHero0406: Sue and Johnny are only peak human when not resorting to their powers. With the characters in this match bloodlusted, Akatsuki wouldn't give the group enough time to prep use of their powers, especially with the group's greater numbers, speed and hax.

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Battles » UH's Tournament R3: Team SensitivePsych0 vs Team Dream

@ReiKai: Except that precognition only involves seeing possible outcomes instead of manipulating them, like you could do with causality manipulation.

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Battles » UH's Tournament R3: Team SensitivePsych0 vs Team Dream

It cuts through spirits, dream monsters, incubi, demons, and Ganishka's Astral Body.

All being either demons or spirits. Souls and spirits are two completely different things.

Also, since the Godhand and the IoE control causality, and thus the Fate/Destiny and Free Will of everything in the world, and the Brand puts the bearer outside of their omniscience, then I don't see how any ability that relies on precog to predict anothers actions will work on Gutts whose actions and future cannot thus be predicted.

Precognition involves seeing future events and using that information to change them, not manipulating cause and effect. I don't know what has you thinking that Guts' resistance to the God Hands' causality manipulation can apply to any other beings, but it's not working against Wrath's Ultimate Eye.

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Battles » UH's Tournament R3: Team SensitivePsych0 vs Team Dream

@ReiKai: The Dragonslayer's properties give it the ability to harm spirits and the Apostles, not screw with souls. Also, the causality resistance is only against the influence of the Idea of Evil and the God Hand.

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Battles » Ryougi Void Shiki vs HST Gauntlet

@Fehafare: I still remember willyvereb. He's the resident Type-Moon expert I usually resort to if I need info on any facts with Nasuverse I'm unfamiliar with. With that feat, it does bump up Saber's stats a bit for speed. But I fail to see where it would bump up Shiki Ryougi.

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Battles » UH's Tournament R3: Team SensitivePsych0 vs Team Dream

From what I'm reading up on Mifune's abilities, I think my team is fucked in this match. Goemon and Guts with Berserker Armor could have a shot at victory against Wrath as his Ultimate Eye's precog can have problems seeing through physical obstacles (i.e. the trees in the Forest of Death). But Mifune seems too fast for my team to be capable of keeping up with and his fighting style could be a bit overwhelming for them.

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Battles » UH's Tournament R3: Team SensitivePsych0 vs Team Dream

@Fehafare:Feats such as the lightning and moon cutting are getting disregarded in this match since they were acts of toon-force within Lupin III and not consistent with Goemon's regular feats with Zantetsuken that involve him being a bullet-timer and cutting through materials that are at least thicker than steel.

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Battles » Ryougi Void Shiki vs HST Gauntlet

@Fehafare: Where exactly are you getting these "new speed calcs"? OBD and the mentioned link I showed you still have most notable Nasuverse characters at high supersonic/ low-end hypersonic with their feats for movement and reaction speed.

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Battles » Akatsuki Vs Fantastic Four

The numbers game and hax will be on Akatsuki's side here, especially with Nagato and any EMS users among the group's ranks.

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Battles » Ryougi Void Shiki vs HST Gauntlet

@Fehafare: Information via fuyuki:

What we definitely know:

Saber's maximum speed + command spell boost is Mach 13.2.

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Battles » Ryougi Void Shiki vs HST Gauntlet

@Fehafare: Mach 15-45 movement speed? Find that a bit questionable to believe when Nasu stated that Saber's fastest movement speed with a competent magus was around Mach 13. The only Nasuverse characters I recall being capable of said speed would be several of the Types and Ado Edem from Angel Notes.

I'd take the creator's word over fan speculation and theory.

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Battles » Ryougi Void Shiki vs HST Gauntlet

@Fehafare: New speed calcs?

Last I heard, Void Shiki had speed on par with Ciel (high-end of supersonic) and she would be capable of engaging in defensive battles with an average Servant. Even with being a host to Akasha, Shiki still has a mortal body that can be destroyed if she faces a powerful enough threat.

As for this match, I can picture Shiki giving plenty of characters in Naruto hell before getting decked by high tiers such as the Jinchuriki and MS/ EMS/ Rinnegan users and same with Bleach. But I can't picture Shiki creaming One Piece characters post-timeskip.

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General Discussion » The strongest anime character ever?

Either Kami Tenchi or the Lord of Nightmares. Anime doesn't have very many pure omnipotents compared to American comics.

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Battles » Tsunade vs Younger Toguro

Toguro rather easily.

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Battles » UltimateHero's Swordmaster Tournament

@UltimateHero0406: Without the armor, Guts is capable of sonic speeds as he is capable of easily fending off projectile attacks such as fired arrows and thrown knives and was able to react and defend against the high-speed attacks of Rosine, a fairy Apostle capable of flying at supersonic speeds. With the armor, his speed is greatly augmented to the point where he is able to move at supersonic speeds.

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Battles » UltimateHero's Swordmaster Tournament

@UltimateHero0406: Now for my other question, is it all right for Guts to don the Berserker Armor for this tournament?

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