@solesamurai: Lucy's reaction time is as good as high-tier HST characters considering she could intercept the mentioned missiles and casually block machine gun fire. This isn't as straightforward as you think.
EDIT: Sigh. Come to think about it now since I've cooled my head, an HST combined assault would actually be a bit much for Lucy to handle thanks to the numbers game considering these aren't ordinary human soldiers she is up against. Individually, they'd be slaughtered yet a combined assault would be more than enough to dispatch her, but with enough casualties on the HST side from dealing with Lucy's vectors.
On this aspect, I concede to being an ass in thinking she could fuck up the HST solo. -_-*
Hmmm, SSJ3 Goku could match Broly in power. Problem is the ki consumption rates of the form make it unreliable for prolonged fights, meaning Goku would have to off Broly quickly. Otherwise, Goku'll be at Broly's mercy once he exhausts the power of the form.
@phantomrant: The DNA personality was in a blind rage over Lucy's body dying, hence not being anywhere as accurate as Lucy at the point it took control of her body. Considering the personality was using Lucy's body to release that power, it's safe to assume Lucy could release it as well. Also...
her massively hypersonic vectors can't be utilized within range of her otherwise the impact will end up killing her.
The Lucy and Nyuu personalities were able to erect defenses for Kouta and the girls when the DNA personality attempted to use her vectors on them, so this kind of kills the whole "impact will end up killing her" argument.
@GIRUGAMESH: Unless anyone in the HST has triple-digit mach reaction time which I doubt, they're getting slaughtered.
@phantomrant: Might want to read chapter 103 of Elfen Lied again when she's clearly shown at her strongest power output. She not only intercepts a missile fired at her by military planes, but picks off the pilots and even takes out a missile just as its fired from a ship.
As usual, two weeks will be the amount of time you folks get for voting, meaning April 27 will be the deadline for voting. Otherwise, feel free to vote on which dud you want me to cover next.
@Masterofdeath: And Domon hasn't made mistakes? This is the same guy that rushed headlong into battle because of being obsessed to find his brother and the Devil Gundam and regularly had to have common sense knocked into him by other characters to make sure he wasn't killed. Hell in the mentioned episode where he and Master Asia teamed up to get out of the ruins, he was dumb enough to want to summon God Gundam before Asia told him it wouldn't be a smart idea.
Sora might not be as experienced in fighting for as long as Domon has, but he's been regularly shown to be a more competent fighter who has considerably improved in wielding the Keyblade into battle. Also account that Sora's fought foes who are considerably stronger than Domon could hope to be like Hercules, who can casually lift giant creatures like the Hydra and Rock Titan.
@phantomrant: Lucy could still intercept missiles being fired from miles away at her with her strongest upgrade. So her accuracy isn't as bad as you are implying.
Both are about on par in speed. However, Domon would have to be careful not to get struck by any direct blows coming from Sora's Keyblade as the Keyblade bearer's been able to stand up to some monstrously strong enemies like Hercules, the Rock Titan and the Groundshaker Heartless (the Pride Lands boss from KH2) with it. One good blow with it would be more than enough to dispatch Domon.
Sora also has the advantage of having more ranged options in this fight as Domon's only ranged attack without Gundams is the Sekiha Tenkyoken while Sora has elemental spells, Graviga and the infamous Reflega to reflect attack damage (both melee and ranged) back at Domon. In addition, Sora can fly which gives him an aerial advantage as well in this fight.
Overall, I see Sora prevailing here as he has more versatile options at his disposal and is packing more power on him thanks to his Keyblade.
it's perfectly logical to believe they both travel the same speed
Going by that logic, anyone in the HST would then be massively hypersonic just because they evade an electric/ lightning attack despite regular speed feats within the titles contradicting your so-called logic.
had to be "faster than the speed of light" to evade it."
The "faster than light" nonsense was a dub addition and Piccolo only remarked at how extraordinarily fast Raditz was to have dodged the attack. The strongest of DBZ characters only start getting to a percentage of light speed at around Majin Buu saga.
Ummm, wasn't Sensui significantly faster than Goku and Piccolo at that point from I recall? The two wouldn't be able to compete in speed with him until later in Saiyan saga.
@GIRUGAMESH: In character, Lucy was always fighting to kill her foe and she was making use of whatever was the full output of her power at differing points of the manga, with no regard for what it would eventually do to her body. There was a point in the manga where Director Kazukawa (the old man who runs the diclonius institute) warned her that continuing to use the full output of her power would burn out her body and kill her yet she didn't seem to care when she killed him and laid waste to the institution with the latest power upgrade she had after witnessing Kouta get shot.
Unless lucy has some sort of extreme speed advantage
Her vectors do. However...
Doesn't help that quite a few of OP chars are also massively hypersonic.
Where the hell are you coming to this kind of conclusion? Unless you have any credible evidence to back up this claim (which I doubt you do), then I'm convinced you're either wanking or very delusional.
No, you're twisting my words to try and make them seem outrageous. there is no logic behind it, His power allows him to travel, fight, and attack at light speeds, simple as that.
I highly doubt the speed Kizaru is kicking around Luffy at in this video is light speed, you demented little fool.
And you're the one trying to make me look like an ass while you are arguing something like this...
And yes OP Top tiers are regarded as being able to contend with Yu Yu hakusho's power houses, and some of Dbz's weakers characters.
...that would have fans of those shows wondering if you are right in the head, especially when even characters at Saiyan saga in DBZ could bust moons and planets that no one in the HST can even hope to compete with.
It's funny when you say anticipate as well, further insinuating you don't know what precog is.
I meant physically, you idiot.
Precognition doesn't allow you to automatically react to a threat. It only allows you to know what kind of attack the opponent will be performing or whatever will occur in the near-future, nothing else beyond that. The rest then comes down to how well you physically react to it and knowing enough of the battle terrain to make use of it if necessary to anticipate said incoming attack.
precog is them literally knowing what their opponent is about to do before they do it. that is literally what precog is.
I know what precog is and the mentioned One Piece characters can do it via Kenbunshoku Haki. However if they don't have the reflexes and speed to anticipate the attack, then the ability doesn't do much to help its user out.
izaru is literally light, he can fight at light speeds, travel at light speeds, and attack at light speeds(he kicks at light speed all the time) He can also create attacks made of light(which also travel at light speeds), that's literally how his power works.
By that logic, any character who can anticipate his attacks in One Piece would have light speed as well and I highly doubt that. Otherwise, we'd be arguing about One Piece being capable of going up against stronger verses like Yuyu Hakusho, Negima and even DBZ.
