Dartz (Level 6)

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Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Cloud Strife vs Saber

Omega Weapon from DoC? Yeah, the final collision with Chaos Vincent did create a large explosion. But relativistic? I don't recall it even moving.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Cloud Strife vs Saber

@TheBlackDragonz: I don't recall Ultimate Weapon being a lifewiper/casual continent buster. Hell Arc is small planet level with her moon drop and ORT is much stronger than her.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Cloud Strife vs Saber

@supernova7005 said:

@Fehafare said:

I don't see anything Cloud can do in any form to win.

stop being a fanboy.

cloud mops the floor with ORT and 100% arc. FSN/FZ servants are fodder level compared to his triple digit hypersonic speed and country level slashes

Lol, now that's just stupid. A weaker being than 100% Arc and ORT created an enormous rift around the entire planet with her death scream, dividing it in two. They built Ado Edem's prison inside it. Also, show proof that Cloud is tripple digit hypersonic, leaving aside the fact that 100% Arc and ORT ARE tripple digit hypersonic and outclass Cloud or any FFVII character in all stats.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Saber vs Ichigo

@CerusSerenade: He is right on one thing though. Avalon doesn't reflect anything. That was in the anime only.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Saber vs Ichigo

@brolybankai: Do you know what Avalon does?

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Gilgamesh vs HST opponents

@kageyame: Even in Fate, he activates Merodach after he saw Shirou project Caliburn.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Ichigo vs Gilgamesh vs Sephiroth

That was an understatement. It traveled hundreds of meters in a fraction of a second, the speed was estimated to be around mach 27. And Rider only survived it because Gil didn't aim at him, he aimed at the ground of the RM. And you need to explain how would Ichigo and Sephiroth deal with Gae-Bolg, which pierces the heart and sends thousands of thorns through the bloodstream after activation.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Ichigo vs Gilgamesh vs Sephiroth

@supernova7005: He needs prep-time for meteor. Gil has his armor, which gives him defense superior to that of Bellerophon, since the later got vaporized by Excalibur while Gil's armor didn't. And Gil dodged Excalibur in the final part of F/Z, which reaches hundreds of meters into the sky in seconds, so he has above mach 20 speed (at least in reactions), plus Rider did the same thing. And Gil's random swords were stated to cleave mountains during the battle against Caster. Also, you need to prove the hado 90 distorting space and time isn't hyperbole or an exaggeration, or I can bring up the statement that says each one of Ea's axes rotate with a force equal to that of tectonic movement. Plus Ea doesn't just distort space and time, it rips right through it to expose the truth of the world on a time where organic life was impossible on the planet.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Saber vs Yammamoto

@eddz99: Excalibur's light travels hundreds of meters into the sky in seconds, and it's omnidirectional. Yammamoto isn't dodging it just with hypersonic speed. Plus that amount of heat doesn't grant him good durability or the power required to surpass Excalibur, since the heat is limited to the surface of his body.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Saber vs Sephiroth

@Dream: I meant the barrier he placed around the Northern Crater, not the barrier spell (though they may be one and the same). I don't think it was stated or implied he was Safer Sephiroth when he placed that barrier.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Saber vs Sephiroth

@Dream: I thought OP meant AC Sephiroth, since it's his current form.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Saber vs Sephiroth

His barriers around the Northern Crater were able to withstand attacks with more power than Excalibur.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Ichigo vs Gilgamesh vs Sephiroth

@supernova7005: Sephiroth isn't blitzing him unless distance is specified, as the speed difference isn't large enough, and Gil barely needs a gesture to put up defenses. I personally believe Sephiroth can win this, judging by the fact his magical barriers (he seems to have more raw magical power than most magic users in the Nasuverse barring Zelretch and the Six Sisters; but unfortunately Gil can't be powerscaled to them) were able to stall the weapons and withstand a blast from the Sister Ray for a few moments along with his speed advantage. Now Ichigo is way below the other two, so he isn't that big of a factor here.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » White Beard (One Piece) vs Hideyoshi Toyotomi

@Haofan123:Not sure about that. It's true that organs have lesser durability, but it wouldn't make sense for his organs not to have scaled up durability in proportion to his bones/muscles. I say this because you don't really see a lot of characters in fiction with smashed organs, internal bleeding, etc after taking a punch to the gut.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6
Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Team Hax Vs Team Fate

@Fehafare:Yeah, that's kinda my point. I think the fight is closer than people think. Also, since speed was equalized, I believe Team 2 might have a chance to stop FCK with Gae-Bolg and Ea.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Team Hax Vs Team Fate

@bobokyo said:

@Dartz said:

@bobokyo said:

@Fehafare said:

@FormerCrimsonKing: So you pretty much say lets throw all the rules and lore of a verse away?

And if it's not magic they can't do anything about anyone on team 2.

So you're saying that only magic attacks work on team 2?

Ok, all of Ban's attacks are witchcraft techniques, a.k.a. "magic".

So yeah, he erases team 2 from existence.

or

Turn them to stone/make them believe that they are dead with the Jagan.

and Raitei, the electro-magnetic field around him is so strong that if you get near him, he can drag your soul away.

It was stated that when Lancer uses his Runes defensively he can block an High Phantasm (something like Excalibur), and Gilgamesh has at least that much defensive power. Hypnosis/mind control is not unheard of in the Nasuverse, and it is never a factor against Servants even for high level hypnotists/mind controllers. Anyway, I believe the first team should win, but only because of Former Crimson King.

"Just because you can negate the Jagan, it does not mean that you can negate the Jagan"

A guy that is immune to the jagan/illusions is effected by the Jagan, heck a guy that doesn't even exist got effected by the jagan.

And that's not the only power of Ban Mido, he can erase people from existence by using Vershwinde Geist. Or his Demon Arm that is outside of space-time.

Well, I'm not sure it would work on Gilgamesh. His mind was strong enough to easily fend off Angra Mainyu, which is a curse that represents all evils in the world (every evil thought or bit of hatred that humanity ever had).

As for Vershwinde Geist being able to affect them. That can be negated with Magic Resistance. Saber has the highest MR among the Servants, Gil can raise his MR to higher levels than Saber, and Rider's pegasus has MR exceeding even Saber.

Also, I don't see anyone on team one surviving Gae-Bolg (both Gil and Lancer have this) or Ea.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Team Hax Vs Team Fate

@bobokyo said:

@Fehafare said:

@FormerCrimsonKing: So you pretty much say lets throw all the rules and lore of a verse away?

And if it's not magic they can't do anything about anyone on team 2.

So you're saying that only magic attacks work on team 2?

Ok, all of Ban's attacks are witchcraft techniques, a.k.a. "magic".

So yeah, he erases team 2 from existence.

or

Turn them to stone/make them believe that they are dead with the Jagan.

and Raitei, the electro-magnetic field around him is so strong that if you get near him, he can drag your soul away.

It was stated that when Lancer uses his Runes defensively he can block an High Phantasm (something like Excalibur), and Gilgamesh has at least that much defensive power. Hypnosis/mind control is not unheard of in the Nasuverse, and it is never a factor against Servants even for high level hypnotists/mind controllers. Anyway, I believe the first team should win, but only because of Former Crimson King.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Ichigo vs Gilgamesh vs Sephiroth

@Dream: It seemed legit. Well, it's hard to compare an attack that covers a wide area with one that's focused around a small section (since depending on the case the later could have more piercing power). A sword slash won't have a large AoE unless it's amped by something. In Crisis Core his energy beam sword slashes have been shown capable to cut through the Junon canon, but even then they didn't cause a lot of AoE destruction.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Ichigo vs Gilgamesh vs Sephiroth

@Dream: Mainly the volume of it, I guess. Here is a picture of the Shinra headquarters, he destroyed a good portion of the top of the main building.

@Fehafare: Yes, I had forgotten how durable his armor was. However, I still believe an Octaslash should be enough to get through it (Sephiroth still has a significant speed advantage in close range). And his teleportation should be enough to catch him off guard. And not really, though I sometimes lurk and post on MvC, I don't really support some of the FFVII fans' views regarding Sephiroth's capabilities on that site.

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