Dartz (Level 6)

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Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Dark Shneider vs Shuma Gorath

Shuma wins both scenarios easily.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Silver Surfer vs CCC Gilgamesh

@TheNeutralOne said:

LOL silver surfer ends this easily.

Gilgamesh throws three galaxies that are almost his size while he doesn't grow in size at all. That girl sits on the planet and destroys it while they go back to fighting in the same place they were before without any damage.

Too much holes in the fight. Feats would be more impressive if it was a open world game like god of war and they actually destroyed stuff instead of doing an unquantifiable amount of damage. Unless silver surfer gets an hp bar for this fight lol. He can suck gilgamesh into his board, move backwards and forward in time and travel from universe to universe with extraordinary ease.

Oh now this all makes sense.

Lol i found something interesting. So this moon cell they are trapped in it? I read that the moon cell is just a computer program. So essentially that whole universe is smaller than the moon. Which means that while silver surfer is busting real moons they are throwing galaxies smaller than the moon. GG.

Lol, way to make flawed assumptions when you don't know anything about the context. You should really become more familiar with the game and the mechanics of the characters' abilities before you make those kind of posts.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Silver Surfer vs CCC Gilgamesh

Those aren't galaxies, they are stated to be giant force fields in Gilgamesh's Matrix. Doesn't change the fact the he did shatter the dimension the Moon Cell was generating which is the size of the Milky Way.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Silver Surfer vs CCC Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh activating Ea during his fight with Kiara, at 5:25:

Kiara teleporting the Servants to the far edge of the Milky Way galaxy at the end of the video:

And then the Servants coming back at FTL speed, about 30 minutes later at 7:19 and 6:58 for Saber and Archer:

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Silver Surfer vs CCC Gilgamesh

@flamesaber said:

EA takes time to charge

This is wrong. Excalibur is one of the fastest Noble Phantasms in terms of activation (Saber can use it in response to Lancelot's machine gun) and Ea is just as fast. Not to mention Gil can use it against Kiara and BB, both FTL characters. He won't be able to use it against them if Ea's activation were slow.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Issei & his Harem vs Tsukune & his harem

Eh, doubt the speed advantage goes to them. Then again, it's kind of hard to find any quantifiable speed feat in DxD that doesn't involve hyperbole.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Arcueid Brunestud (strongest) vs. Sephiroth (strongest)

@CerusSerenade: You're downplaying a bit too hard there. Many authors don't follow physics, Nasu himself doesn't seem to underestand physics and biology, and what does it matter if they are cinematic as long as they happened? None of that is helping Sephiroth here anyway.

Regarding Arc's speed, she is merely faster than the eye if you go by her feats. But she's hypersonic by that Word of God statement that says she can fight Servants, and she would be MFTL by that last Word of God statement that puts her on par with CCC top tiers. Arc gets almost all of her stats from powerscaling and author's statement, so she kind of isn't a fun character to use in a vs.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » SSJG Goku vs CCC Gilgamesh

@EraserCannon said: Pretty sure Cell's claim isn't taken at face value.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » SSJG Goku vs CCC Gilgamesh

@Platinum_94: Except even if Goku was faster, which he isn't, he'll need more than a punch or a casual Ki blast to one shot him since Gil and the other Servants tank large planet busting amounts of energies from Kiara.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » SSJG Goku vs CCC Gilgamesh

@Platinum_94:It certainly does. A character that travels that fast needs to have the reactions necessary to keep up with himself to effectively travel where they want to. Otherwise they simply would have little or no control of their movements. There are times when a character has superior arm movement/attack speed when compared to their movement speed, but a movement speed feat always correlates to a character's conbat speed.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » SSJG Goku vs CCC Gilgamesh

@flamesaber:Did you read the comments in the blog that was posted? Both Archer and Saber crossed that same same distance explicitly under their own power. Gilgamesh who has the same power as them is of course going to be just as fast. Unless you are saying Archer and Saber are FTL and Gil hypersonic.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » SSJG Goku vs CCC Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh's durability is good enough to withstand a vortex made out of all the world's desire (a mind and physical attack). Which is the source of Kiara's power and what allows her to become planet sized.

And aside from being hundreds of times FTL, Ea upon activation is shown shattering a good portion of the Reality Marble the Moon Cell was generating at it's core, which is a replicate of the Milky Way galaxy. Go to 05:25, notice how even the far away sky gets shattered as a side effect of him activating Ea.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Arcueid Brunestud (strongest) vs. Sephiroth (strongest)

@supernova7005 said:

If Arc is MFTL, she wins. Otherwise nope. A single Moondrop ain't hurting Sephiroth, who has well above Moon+ durability, intangibility and teleportation

Moon Drop is not just moon level. The kinetic energy residing in it is enough to destroy a small planet. Not that it matters since neither Arc's raw stats, Marble Phantasm nor Moon Drop are the main factor that make her strong in-universe; what is portrayed as her strongest power is her ability to raise her stats above her opponent. That was previously considered a NLF so it was ignored in vs threads, but now there is an upper limit for it; enough to put a fight against characters that tank and dish out large planet busting amounts of energies and are MFTL.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Arcueid Brunestud (strongest) vs. Sephiroth (strongest)

@supernova7005 said:

Unless their willpower is on a planetary level, their 'blood control' ain't working on Seph and Zack as its an NLF.

Funny that you mention this, considering Arc at 30% power used her Marble Phantasm ability (which is directly fueled by her willpower/mental energies) to make a dimension the side of the planet (the future world in 1000 years) which also had the future moon on it in the original Melty Blood.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Xenovia vs. Saber

Now this is tough. They are pretty much even in physical power, and Saber can probably deal with the abilities of Excalibur's Ruler and Transparency with her magic resistance and instincts, although Xenovia hasn't mastered that first one. Saber has a bit of a durability advantage, but not so much she can't be hurt if Xenovia lands a clear hit. I'd say Saber has a slight edge with her instincts. Not sure about Xenovia's reaction time, depending on how high it is it might tip the scales in Xenovia's favor.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Arcueid Brunestud (strongest) vs. Sephiroth (strongest)

Well Arc only gets that scaling as a limit to her Ultimate One skill, which is the ability to raise her power above her foe by receiving support from Gaia, so Types should be at least just as strong. On Gilgamesh's side, Enkidu (he was his equal by Gil's own words and managed to fight him to a draw), Bull of Heaven and probably high ranking Gods, but all those no longer exist in any current Nasuverse setting. Scratch that, high ranking Gods still exist (even though they shouldn't be around anymore), since they are unaffected by the time axis, but the only one that has appeared is Amaterasu.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Arcueid Brunestud (strongest) vs. Sephiroth (strongest)

@Prim4te:Pretty sure it's acknowledged that if a character can fly or travel at a certain speed under his/her own power he/she needs to have the reactions to catch up with him/herself.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Arcueid Brunestud (strongest) vs. Sephiroth (strongest)

Yeah, Arcueid gets powerscaling from CCC top tiers, since Word of God said she is on the same level as them and the only character that can defeat Amaterasu (which none of the other CCC top tiers can scratch). Note these are characters that cross distances of thousands of light years in minutes and can do this:

She can fight them at 1/6 their power with an ability that's only active in the Moon that reduces their power to 1/6 their strength. And Extra Arc is a massively watered-down version of Arc, since Gaia (the being she draws all her power from) is dying after a pole shift drained all the world's mana. But then, Sephiroth doesn't really stand a chance, he just gets speedblitzed and one shoted.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Who can defeat highschool dxd light novel versions

@Galenbeta: True Longinus doesn't kill anything, it's good at killing Gods and also Devils due to it's holy effect. Claiming it can kil anything is a no - limits fallacy, specially since Gods in other verses can be more powerful than DxD Gods.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

Battles » Who can defeat highschool dxd light novel versions

@Galenbeta: I have read the novels. There are claims of Vali moving at the speed of light, but those can be taken as hyperbole. You need more solid evidence here, like a timeframe and distance. Since those claims you are citing are very common in novels.

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