Danilo018 (Level 7)

@TheRedRose said:

                    @Danilo018: Okay whatever, I'm not arguing with you. And SS characters are Massively FTL. Stop depowering GS like it's your own anime, Kuramada stated they can fight up to 1000 days and plus there stamina is very high. The three former Gold Saints were still fighting despite being rendered by Leo's lighting plasma, Scorpio's scarlet needles, and having their senses nearly removed by Virgo Shaka. 

                   

               

No i'm just presenting the actual power level of SS verse and you're overpowering it. I haven't denied that there exist SS characters which are massivly FTL. Also now you stated by yourself that it's actually 1000 days and not years . So you confirmed that you agree.

@TheRedRose said:

                    @Danilo018: Yes but it also clearly states that the Gold Cloth is protected by the 12 zodiac signs, and also that it was capable of withstanding Galaxian Explosion. You're disregarding my scans and feats.

                   

               

It's stated that Gold Clothes are protected by 12 Zodiac constelations. not each Gold Cloth. You're disregarding your scan. Each Gold Cloth has it's own constelation of Zodiac, like each one of 88 saints has his own constelation. One cloth or one saint can't have 2 or more contelations protecting him. 

@TheRedRose said:

                      
- Not true, Kuramada clearly states in the hypermyth that Saints can fight up to 1000 years   
  
- Sacrifice of Gold Saints was never stated to be just the power of the sun, it was stated to be more powerful than Athena's Exclaimation (Big Bang) so there's no denying. It was only stated to have the brightness of the sun   
 
 -Gold Saints are FTL, no denial of that, they can accelerate their speed to being FTL! In the beginning of EP G Aioli was stated to be Light Speed, towards the end Titan Hyperion said that Leo's speed had increased, also with Coeus the fastest Titan who countered Leo's Lighting Plasma effortlessly with one hand    
 
Cancer Deathmask is probably the fastest Gold Saint here, Seiya was blitz by Deathmask who was about to soul BFR him until Mu countered him. Deathmask has blitz massive FTL opponents before, he was even beating Shiryu after mastering the 7th sense. His SekiShiki Meikai Ha seems omnidirectional given by the fact in the Lost Canvas Thanatos couldn't dodge it, The FTL Giga couldn't dodge it, Shiryu during the Phoeubus movie was caught by it, Seiya himself had no way of dodging SekiShiki. Even Wyvern Radamanthys had to counter it instead of dodge it.

                   

               

- It's true(can fight for 1000 days) reraed Hypermyth, you have online in Spanish(since it appears that you're very fluent with Spanish). By the way their stamina was measured with fight of equaly powerful opponent. It was stated that Gold Saints can fight with themselves for 1000 days (the best measure since Gold Saints are more or less equal). With more powerful opponenst fight would last shorter. With less powerful also shorter. 
 
- Well you're right of one thing. It was never stated to be as powerful as Sun, that was me being generous. As of actual power of tech, let's analyze several things. 
First of all they used that technique in order to pierce Hades barrier (Wailing Wall), along with arow of Sagitaurus. All 12 Gold Saints died in the proces. It was stated that Gold Clothes have stored sunlight since ancient times(since they were created), as Dohko explained. They burned their cosmo sky-high and released all of the Sun's energy they concetrated and killed themselves in the proces. Just for the record Let's say that Gold Cloths have been created at the start of the universe 15 000 000 000 years ago (and they were created far, far later), and let's say they could store 10 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 J of energy in 1 day - which is the total energy of the Sun which strikes the Earth each day. Note that are of the Earth is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are of the Gold Cloth, but still let's say that Gold Cloth could store the same amount of Sun's energy as etire planet Earth in 1 day (we asume that even Sun was created 15 000 000 000 years ago and not 4 500 000 000 ago ). And we will asume that after 15 000 000 000 years Gold Saints sacrificed themselves and released all of their solar energy. 
 
After all those years they should store 10^22 x 365 x 12 x 1.5 x 10^10 = 10^32 x 6570 . Total energy Sun has is 1.8 x 10^47. so even in this scenario it's <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Sun's energy or to be more precise it's nearly 1 000 000 000 000 times less. 
 
So you see that there is no chance that they could release more energy than Sun. There is no chance that they could release as much energy as Sun either (but i was generous) . Fact is that Gold Saints were all killed by power of the Solar Flare. 
 
 
- No GS are only light speed(they were stated to be light speed limited in both manga and anime). At the beginig of episode G leo could punch 100 000 000 times per second, and wasn't stated to be Light Speed(that's just your conclusion from 100 000 000 punches). 100 000 000 moves/punches per second in less than nano-second reaction time which is required for light speed reflex. When he fought Hyperion he could do 1 000 000 000 punches per second or nano -second reaction time (by the way those 1 000 000 000 punches were with plasma and not actual punches as ). And Leo's feat is actually the greates speed/reaction time of gold Saints.  
 
Out of all characters only Gods(inlcuding unselaled Titans, Typhon and Pontus) and users of God Cloth can be labeled as massivly FTL and that's by power scailing. 1 Sealed Titans (2 seal Cronos) and Thanathos and Hypnos are FTL but not massilvy rather 2-3 times faster than light speed. Since Gold Saints can keep up with them. 2 seal Titans and Spectres ( except 3 Judges or Hell) are slightly inferior to gold Saints and can't be labeled as FTL. Giants are also inferior(by a small amount) to Gold Saints and they are not FTL and for sure not massicly FTL.  
 
3 Judges of hell should be slightly more powerful than Gold Saints (individually) but are not faster. Only Minos can be labeled as more powerful than any Saint, since Rhadamanthys had troubles with Kanon. 

@TheRedRose said:

                   
Cancer is incredibly fast and as well is the best in hand-to-hand combat, he defeated Shiryu at hand-to-hand combat (Who was probably the best combatant than any other saint, even if he was a bronze Saint), as well blitz Aries Mu who was dodging all three former Gold Saints (all being massively FTL) but couldn't blitz Cancer who easily laid hits on Mu like he was the slowest Gold Saint.  
 
Also Gold Cloth is multistar, it was stated in Ep G that Gold Cloth holds the power of their own constellation.   
 

 

   "Gold Cloths, which ar e under the protection of the zodiac signs-"  Clearly states that the Gold Cloths hold the power of their zodiac signs (As in constellations)

                   

               

First of all it was never stated that Gold Cloth has durability of entire constelation, that's simply your asumption based on the fact that it was stated that saints are under protection of their constelation. Second, this proves that Gold Cloth for sure can't be multistar. That's because scan clearly stated that each of 88 Athena's Saints is under protection of one of constellations (12 gold saints under protection of Zodiac constelations). So if we go by your logic than it would mean even Pegasus Seiya with Bronze Cloth has multi-star durability and even is more durable than Gold Saints since Pegasus constelation is bigger tha Zodiac constelations. 
 
This scan only confirms that each of 88 Saints has his own constelation, and not that Saints (Gold) are as durable as their constelation.

@Rapest_of_super_heros said:

                    Well. he can trap Cancer in the Speed-Force just like him and Bart did to SMP. 
and I think West on his own is enough to pull this one off. after all we all know what Emoboy is capable of.
 

Wally FTW via BFR.

                   

               

Plus IMP. Gold Saints are no where near multi-star in durability. That's just OBD no-limit fail powerscailing.

@mydeathlyways said:

                    Runner is close to being the fastest being in the Marvel Universe and is nearly untouchable. Same goes with Deathmask who is massively faster than FTL as well as mastering the 8th sense in the end of the series. I can give it to Death because of his soul removal and Gold Saint Armor that tanks multi star busters. Plus his stamina is seemingly endless given by the fact that Gold Saints can fight for about  1000 years. 

                   

               

Wrong on many things. Let's make it right. 
 
- gold Saints can only fight for 1000 days not years 
- gold cloth is no where near multi-star, since Sacrifice Of Gold Saints - tech when all 12 Saints burn their Cosmo sky-high is enough to destroy Gold Cloth. That technique generates the heat of the Sun and it's debatable if it actually has the power of the star or just of the solar flare. And this is the most powerful tecnique of Gold Saints even more powerful than athena's exlamation.
- gold saints are only ligth-speed 
 
Runner wins becuase he is much faster (faster tha Surfer) and much stronger (stronger than Surfer). Compared to Surfer Gold Saints are far to slow and far to physicly weak. Runner will destroy armour with single punch.

@DJSNuva1 said:

                    @Danilo018: SF Darkseid is well above Skyfather level. Also, The Stranger is more powerful than Odin. As for the result of this match, of course the Gold Saints take this.

                   

               

What do you mean by SF Darkseid ? Term "skyfather level" was coined by OBD. Odin as a skyfather is comparable to Galactus and therefore more powerful than Stranger. Even by feats Odin is > Stranger. When i mention skyfather level i think Odin's level actually. Not even Pre-Crisis darkseid has done anything close to Odin's feats. When Darkseid does somehting close to Odin than we can talk about himbeing Odin's level. 
 
Does SF mean Soul Fire, if that's so he should be above Odin not well above but above Odin.

broly wins. If we exclude all PIS and CIS and stuck up to Japanese dube he is galaxy ruiner - by large scale. That makes him the most powerful DB/DBZ/DBGT/DB Multiverse character so far. Omega Shenron was going to kill all life in the universe not to bust the universe. By the way Broly with hius feat from movie 8 takes Dragon Ball Up sevelra tiers.

@Rapest_of_super_heros said:

                   

stop bumping this, there is no point in it. there are more than a million people from comics/anime/and movies that can solo Saiya-verse.

                   

               

Quoted For Reason !!!

@Toxin45 said:

                    @Danilo018: Well Anderson used one of the nails Section 3matthew probably has more than one nail if Drifters and the OVA ends we might get our answer

                   

               

There exist only 1 Helena's Nail. You got it wrong. Also read the manga to end (you can read it online on many sites)

@Toxin45 said:

                    @Danilo018: Well Heinkel is the new Anderson and he/she might have Helena's nail if you want.

                   

               

Well that was never stated. Also how can he have Helena's Nail when there exist only one ?

@Toxin45 said:

                    okay heres how it goes 
Alucard (Level zero) and Blood Seras
against 
Helena Anderson and Bandaged Heinkel
and 
The Captain and Dark Walter
 

 Alucard (level Zero)

Blood Seras

 Helena Anderson

 Bandaged(regenerator) Heinkel

 The Captain (normal & Werewolf)

 Dark Walter

   So who will win? You Decide

                   

               

I say Captain and Dark Walter (vampire Walter). Although if Anderson bayonets are from silver would likely change my mind. Now let's make case.

First of all Captain losing wo Seras is pure example of PIS. I mean he was dominating the whole fight and it seemed like he wanted to be killed actually and was just toying with her. Heinkel is basilcy useless here, so it's more or less the same if Helena's Nail Anderson if fighting alone. Anyway both Captain and Walter could easily deal with all of Alucards familiars. I don't know if walter could tank Alhambra's cards or Rip Van Winkles' bullets but that for sure won't be problem for Captain (since he was Millenums top dog, literalry :-) ). Seras siding with Alucard won't be problem for them since Walter's wires could easily decimate Alucards familiars without going into melle combat.

About Anderson and Heinkel.

Heinkel dies at the start of the fight . And Helena's Nail Aderson although powerful won't be able to stop Walter and Captain. And after some time they would deduce that they must take the Nail out. Alhtough this would very dangerous fight for them since one blow from Anderson might even be leathal for them (they don't have familiars), although Captain can take the mist form and evade attack.


Alucard and Seras


I mention above how could they deal with familiars. Since familiars are souls and dispatching them leaves no blood , there wouldn't be blood on battle fiesl for Alucard or Seras to create new familiars. Well only Hainkel could would die in a bloody death. Anyway i don't see how they could kill true vampires team(was never shown how can such thing be acomplished in manga). But they would overpower them. Both Captain and Walter would constantly trash them (although vampires would regenerate). And on and on. By overpowering i mean constant decimating from Captain and Walter.

Judged from Alucard vs Walter, it htink that stabbing in the heart with something blessed would do the work . But would Anderson bayonets stay on the battle field ? Well that's speculation and actually would be like plot device, like giving pleanty of silver to everyone in order to kill Captain.

Fact is that Captain/ Vampire Walter are Hellsing's most dangerous team. And could decimate everyone in verse excpet Schroedinger Alucard and Schroedinger himself, that would be stealmate. Although since Captain was > Schroedinger he might be able to kill him but that's just speculation.

@DJSNuva1 said:

                    Alucard should win this too easily.

                   

               

@blackdemon said:

                   
VS  You know, it took me a while to realize it, but I've gotten rather fed up with the battle forums and posting on them. Not that I won't still enjoy this site, but I think I'll post one last battle and call it quits for good after that.   Anyway, plenty of prep both for Alucard and Scorpion, and bloodlust is on. The fight takes place in New York City.  Which of these powerful, virtually unkillable dark heroes wins?

                   

               

If fight takes place in Netherealm (Scorpion's domain) fight won't be easy at all. Anyway since battle takes place on Earth. Casull or Jackal should do the work.

@Fire Star said:

                   

@deathmonger: @Danilo018: Tone it down, I don't want to have to lock this thread.

                   

               

I'll tone it done for sure(he pissed me of by calling me stupid - stupid asumptions). Anyway you should definatelly lock this thread, since unlike Post Crisis Spectre (defeated by Black Adam, Batkick victim, ...) Pre Crisis Spectre wasn's jobber aka victim of PIS. So even that argument fails. And with all of that there is zero reason why this thread should stay locked

@deathmonger said:

                    @Danilo018 said:

What's the point of this thread ? I mean this is example of pure bite thread in order to start a flame wars. What would be your other thread, this team vs Living Tribunal or maybe TOAA ?

ok  LT or TOAA would stomp i wanted to know what people thought what you said really pissed me off dont make stupid assumptions and no I wasnt trying to start a flame war

                   

               

The people are gonna say that you're a troll, by the way i totaly don't care if it pissed you off, since you're pissing many people off with your stupid threads, which end up in a flame wars always.

What's the point of this thread ? I mean this is example of pure bite thread in order to start a flame wars. What would be your other thread, this team vs Living Tribunal or maybe TOAA ?

@Hellos: 
Hey mate long time no see. You're still on Vine ?

@StargunZX said:

                    @Danilo018 said:

Guys Ginyu Force - Ginuy lost to Humans in Namek Saga

                   

               

Filler.

                    

          Well dunno that, since i've only watch anime. Anyway Krilin before fight with Frieza had power level of 75 000. Greater than Jeice, Guldo, Recoome or Burter. At Adroind Saga he and other were much stronger. Tien should be even stronger than him in Android Saga     

@StargunZX said:

                    @Danilo018 said:

Guys Ginyu Force - Ginuy lost to Humans in Namek Saga

                   

               

Filler.

                   

               

Well dunno that, since i've only watch anime. Anyway Krilin before fight with Frieza had power level of 75 000. Greater than Jeice, Guldo, Recoome or Burter. At Adroind Saga he and other were much stronger. Tien should be even stronger than him in Android Saga

@MisterShin said:

                    Guldo is a victim of CIS. Give him Vegeta or Piccolo brain and he would stomp with his abilities.  In-Character, Humans win  Bloodlusted, Ginyu Force win

                   

               

@StargunZX said:

                    If Tenshinhan is included the humans should win.

                   

               

@UssjFutureTrunks said:

                    who wins?

                   

                Guys Ginyu Force - Ginuy lost to Humans in Namek Saga on King Kai's planet when they were far weaker than in Androind Saga. Humans in Androind Saga it's simply an overkill. I dare to say that even Chaozu would solo.