Boxer_Joe (Level 10)

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Battles » Dio Vs Vegeta

@SpeedForceSpider: Well assuming blood freezing and stingy eyes are even viable considering Dio never used them after gaining The World, the same thing applies here with freezing or phasing: The fact that Vegeta takes attacks from people who could casually bust planets seems to entail a sort of internal durability. If your organs remained as strong as normal human than the pressure of all those blasts would have destroyed Vegeta's brain/heart/lungs effortlessly.

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Battles » Law vs Kuma vs Nagato vs Barragan

@taichokage: There is nothing that suggest Arrancar get sick or anything like normal people do,hell we see that before Barragan constantly watched over Hueco Mundo never moving from his seat or showing signs of needing rest, it was stated multiple times that they don't age, anyone can see Barragan's respiera is not simply speeding up the aging process, the only time it was was in he unreleased form when he touched Soi Fon and made her bones old and brittle, his repira is more rotting than simple aging. Also you are going into One Piece 101, remember when kizaru blasted Hawkins with a laser and that random pirate was hurt but alive? Yet we see on the doll half of it's head is missing? That is jsut how One Piece is, fodder never gets killed like that, it's how half the Marines survived Whitebeard's assault, even John giant who was quaked in the head yet even Akainu when down from shots to the body. Barragan still buffered the damage of the bankai, he never took all of it without some form of defense, the damage was always cut. I'm not even arguing Kuma shockwaves, i'm arguing that Kuma can push the respira back at Barragan because nothing suggest he can't. it is clearly a physical substance as it never phasing through anything, instead it rots and destroys. Look at what happens when he uses it on a kido barrier, the barrier does not just fade away as it would if he simply sped up the time of it's activation, it rotted it and broke though. respira is rotting more than again, he pre-release form had more to do with time. And never minding all of that he must still use the physical mass of respira to rot something, Kuma can push back intangible, emotional, and spiritual damage, the respira has shown nothing that prevents it from being deflected.

Post by Boxer_Joe (305 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Law vs Kuma vs Nagato vs Barragan

@taichokage: Arrancar were not always in the forms you see now (As shown with Grimmjow) the only arrancar we have eve seen age was Nel and that was transformation, even Lilynette was created and looked the exact same as when she was first made as she does now. it was also stated that hollows don't age either. There is nothing to suggest Espada die it simple old age. They don't age physically. Your sentence is also contradictory; they can die of old age even if they don't age? Also I know that he was hit due to Hachi's barrier, but again the dilation only goes so far, if something is coming at him that rapidly and fast he wont escape unscathed hence why he wont just escaped getting blitzed by Kuma's paw reflections.

Post by Boxer_Joe (305 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Law vs Kuma vs Nagato vs Barragan

@taichokage: Barragan is not speeding up time itself as something like Made In Heaven does, time is only sped up when his respira is touching whatever he is speeding up. It is also more or less rotting since Espada don't age so it would make no sense for Barragan to have died from it if all it was was time. So yes, Kuma can repel the respira, I dunno why that is so unbelievable when he repels things such as fatigue and forms of emotional damage, Besides, if it was speeding up time itself then Karakura town would be experiencing a super fast endless day and night cycle anytime Barragan released. They can all still move faster than Barragan, Soigon's explosion was able to hit Barragan at a rate faster than he could dilate the time, I don't see him dilating gravity, nor something getting pushed at him at light-speed. The reason I brought up the range is because people here are still faster, it's just within close quaters he wont be hit by most melee attacks, but everyone here hardly needs to do that so it doens't matter. Not saying Barragan loses here but Kuma should not have a problem with respira and you are mistaken on how his dilation and respira work as it is not simply time.

Post by Boxer_Joe (305 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Galactus (EXTREMELY hungry) vs Pikachu, Mewtwo, and Charizard

A famished Galactus is still planet level, how else would he even be able to eat if he was so weak he could not even get his most basic need for food? At his weakest he is still planet level+, psychic attacks from Mewtwo are of no threat given big G's size alone, Xavier would not even be able to do anything to him, a thunderbolt made by Pikachu would not even reach him no would he feel it and flamethrwer is nothing to Johnny Storm who is no match for Galactus himself.

Post by Boxer_Joe (305 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Josuke Higashikata VS. Kizaru

This is Josuke, and he can only beat them if he is within range, Jotaro could one on one since he has time stop though.

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Battles » Law vs Kuma vs Nagato vs Barragan

@taichokage: He dilates time, not slow it down, and only within a few inches of himself.

@luthluth: Kuma can project pain, fatigue, emotion, damage, ect. anything is repeled, even if he does get injected it's not instant death. Soi Fon had enough ttime to scream her head off and ask Omaeda to cut her arm off while Omaeda hesitated before doing it and it only got to the elbow. Kuma can push it off of him no problem.

Post by Boxer_Joe (305 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Red Hood (Jason Todd) vs Spike Spiegel and Revy

@takashichea: Yeah Jason absolutely wrecks these two in both scenarios. In terms of ranged combat he constantly fights bullet timers and peak humans and even gave Batman a hard time. Spike and Revy would never hit Jason with their gunfire. In addition he should be much smarter than them given his teachings under Batman and even outsmarting Dick Grayson and Tim Drake and multiple occasions so even Spike's cunning wont save them.

In an upclose fight, even working together Jason mangles them both without effort, the guy was fighting metahumans barehanded, holding his own against Batman and Nightwing (Albeit Batman was holding back but even a restrained Batman is way above Revy or spike in terms of combat) not to mention Spike only jeet kun do and Revy is more or less a brawler, Jason had roughly the same upbringing as Revy and was an experienced brawler as a kid, he now knows multiple styles of martial arts from Batman and constantly fights against fighters of various disciplines. The guys fights trained assassins on a daily basis. So yeah the team has no chance here. Not complaining since jason is one of my favorites after Wildcat. Off topic: how have you never seen Cowboy Bebop!? O.o

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Battles » Josuke Higashikata VS. Kizaru

  • In character
  • Distance is 6 meters
  • Fight takes place at Sabody Archipelago

VS.

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Battles » Mohammed Avdol VS. Portgas D. Ace

  • In character
  • fighter are 5 meters away
  • Battle takes place on Banaro island
  • No prep or knowledge

VS.

Setting:

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Battles » Law vs Kuma vs Nagato vs Barragan

Either Barragan or Nagato win here. Nagato wins if he can use his gravity and push Barragan's respiera but if Barragan if faster enough it see him blitzing considering he was moving so fast even Soi Fon didn't notice. Law can beat Barragon though so I dnno. Matches like these are tricky since I don't know who's fighting who, who starts where ect. I assume that Law can take most of the competition out by using Barragan's respira and simply placing it to where his opponents are are he is likely the smartest one here. Considering Law already has Room activated here he has an easier time than most and enless everyone focuses his attacks on him he can move all attacks coming his way. Kuma should be above law and is fast enough to escape anything thrown at him but Law's room has island level distance. Kuma CAN deflect Barragan's respira but his ability requires contact so wouldn't he also lose an arm in the process? I could be wrong as he can repel damage so he can likely just push the respira onto another opponent. I see it coming down to Kuma and Law in the long run with Kuma coming out on top.

Post by Boxer_Joe (305 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Gremmy vs Dangai Komamura

@taichokage: Once again, he simply does not need to be at kenpachi's level of strength, he simply needs to be better than than Kenpachi's casual strike against Gremmy which he is, Kenpachi was not even serious with his swing, they were casual attacks and he was hacking Gremmy away. There is nothing to suggest those casual attacks were above a serious strike from Komamura, yes Kenpachi as a whole is stronger than Komamura but even in part one he was not able to overpower a strike from Tousen and Komamura in base, he needed to kick them away. You don't need to be Kenpachi to break out of concrete, Komamura's bankai being summoned would just bust him out of there, the buildings are not captain level or something I mean what's next, his guns and missiles are above Staark's and hurt him as well? Gremmy did not deal with Zaraki at all, he momentarily stopped a casual sword swing before Zaraki just hacked him, that does not put him above Komamura's class of strength considering once again, calcs form Zaraki's kendo did not put him too far above Komamura's bankai so I don't see how a casual single handed swing would be so much more powerful, there is just nothing to suggest it. The only thing Zaraki even needed shikai for was the meteor and that wont do anything to Komamura, otherwise base Kenpachi was more than enough. You say you don't see how when I explain it, I mean I have not heard nay argument other than Gremmy stopping a casual strike for about 2 seconds before going down. If that was a kendo strike or something I would understand but not a strike like that. Nothing from that attack suggested it was above Komamura's bankai strikes.

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Battles » Gremmy vs Dangai Komamura

@taichokage: Yup, the mod said that for now and he would take care of it until the program is fixed, mine isn't working. Thanks for the heads up though.

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Battles » Gremmy vs Dangai Komamura

@taichokage: @DBZ_universe: Sigh, once again, I'm wondering if you guys even read the chapter or just have such a strong distaste for Komamura you just choose to lowball and ignore arguments. Nevertheless I will begin:

It doesn't matter. Komamura isn't anywhere near the level of Zaraki in attack power

He does not need to be, Zaraki was clearly using little effort to hack Gremmy apart while restrained and pre-shikai. You are acting like Zaraki had trouble cutting through Gremmy, he was no more durable than Nnoitora it was why Kenpachi had such an easy time, steel was nothing to him after facing hiero, but wait, you guys are gonna try to say that Gremmy steel skin is>>>Nnoitora's hiero based off nothing except that it was post skip Kenpachi who cut him. Komamura's bankai striking power going from pre-skip calcs was>>Kenpachi single handed and patched striking power. Logically that should be the same post skip, there is nothing to suggest that the power Kenpachi used to cut Gremmy was more than Komamura's power.

Gremmy literally needed to hurt himself for ZarakI to make it out alive

Not sure what you mean here, you mean blowing himself up to do nothing to him? Gonna have to give me an example, not that it would help your case at all but I would like to know what you are talking about.

His immortality will wear off after a few minutes

Read the OP: Komamura has 20 minuets as opposed to the 5 or less he had with Bambi. Don't just make up limits.

he literally attacked Bambietta around half a dozen times

And she was dodging for he life, Komamura did not land a single hit until the very end and even then that was him reflecting her own attack and one-shotting her. Had Komamura hit her she would have been dead for sure, so once again there is nothing to suggest Komamura cna't hurt Bambietta.

In the mean time he is of no threat to Gremmy. I dare say beneath his notice.

The absolute pinnacle of underestimation.

He just creates Gwanael Lee and sits down for tea.

As Komamura casually swings his sword on the ground and blows him away from the shockwave alone. The guy was hurt from a casual punch by Yachiru the sheer shcokwave of that hit would blow Gwanael to peaces, meanwhile he wont be focussing on himself and thus getting blown apart as well going by your scenario. Also we have not seen him ever use that guy midcombat, we only saw him duplicate himself, to make V he likely needs some sort of prep to conjure/think of him and his abilities.

Komamura's too slow to get around him.

Pre-skip Komamura was intercepting Tousen who blitzed Shinji who himself is a senior captain, then with his bankai he intercepted Tousen mid-movement. Also, Bambietta who was on the other side of the serietei and could not sense Komamura, Shinji, or Hinamori's presence from how far she was even commented on how fast Komamura managed to get there

Bambi Blitzes Shinji yet Komamura not only dodged them but also intercepted Hinamori from the bombs whole was only a few feet away from Bambi

He also has fast enough reflexes to deflect her bombs BEFORE the bombs explode upon contact, Zaraki himself has never displayed that kind of speed or reflex, in fact, he had a hard enough time with Tousen even with his reflexes to the point where his needed Tousen to stab him in order to get a clean hit. Gremmy has never displayed any impressive speed at all, it's like arguing that Nnoitora's speed is greater than Zommari, it's not true.

So you are saying Babi has better DC than Gremmy? lol.

You aren't getting it: Potency>>>DC, Bambietta bombs TURN WHOEVER IS HIT INTO THE BOMB AND THE EXPLODE REGARDLESS OF DURABILITY, Bambietta does not need to have better DC when anything she touches will explode, I'm not sure what is complicated about this. Also Bambietta was already said to be able to end the war or destroy the seiretei on multiple accounts by herself and others Pre Volstandig:

And that was only a warning shot

Shinji even acknowledged that she could have destroyed the Sereitei with he power

Gremmy needed to literally duplicate himself and double his power to destroy SS and after he did he only had enough power for two weaker attacks before he was about to pass out.

He will be blown to blitz by a country level meteor.

Yup and he will be just fine.

Immortality does not grant infinite durability. By that logic, Free from SE could tank a FP Kamekameha.

Komamura was getting blown apart from every attack, it just did nothing to him. I have no idea who Free is nor what SE is but tanking implies that a character can be hit by an attack and survive with little or no damage, what Komamura is doing is surviving the attack due to his immortality. Yes Komamura would survive Goku's kamehameha but would likely die later if he blows up the planet as well but he would survive the initial blast. You guys are acting like Komamura is a logia and simply reforms from damage or something or that his immortality is limited like Hidan, you guys don't get how his ability works at all.

Komamura cannot dodge attacks form the dude due to his ability, erasing his presence.

Komamura has much better reflexes and reactions than Yachiru, in fact among the captains his reflexes and reactions have been noted by many captain level opponents, Bambi being one of them. So yes, Komamura would casually chop V in two easier than Yachiru did hitting him. Also V lacks the power to harm even base, pre-skip Komamura.Before using Dangai Komamura was tanking multiple blast from Bambi, those same blast that one shotted Shinji, and he was doing this WHILE protecting Shinji. As for speed once again I refer you to my reply to Taichokage's post.

Yachiru was trained by Zaraki..Zaraki is a better teacher in combat than Sajin.

Because Ikkaku demonstrated those teaching so well, right? Oh wait no he did not. Yachiru's reactions are her, she was not taught that. When has Zaraki even demonstrated any form of teaching expertise? Oh wait, he never did. Squad 11 consist of thugs and hoodlums who never had a day of formal training, Ikkaku and Yumichika were also just street thugs that became members of the 11'th squad. 11th division is every man for himself, and as shown before the skip Hisagi was a much better swordsman than Yumichika. Kenpachi being Yachiru's captain does not mean he just automatically taught her everything and somehow passed his reflexes down to her. It's like arguing Omeada has captain level speed since he has a good flashstep and his captain is Soi Fon. Among the Lieutenants Yachiru has great reactions, but nothing suggest they are captain level. Nor does anything suggest Kenpachi is a better teacher than Sanjin as Kenpachi is clearly the smarter of the two.

Gremmy creates space to stall the immortality limit...them he will be destroyed by meteor.

Gremmy needed to create about a dozen of himself to make a decent sized portal to space for a short period of time, after that he only had enough energy to make a pitiful explosion that Bambi could do casually. But he will someone have enough energy to make the portal for over 20 minuets before making a meteor? Give me a break. Komamura slashes him in half. Gremmy is far to arrogant and wont start out by duplicating himself a dozen times(What he needs to do in order to do half of what you are suggesting) Komamura exploits that and cleaves him in half. Once again Komamura may not be very popular but you guys are in denial if you think he loses this fight, let alone to a meteor. Gremmy has no prep or knowledge, but he will somehow stall his limit? he has no prep or knowledge but he will creat another Sternritter which we have no idea how long it took him to make that and it was clear he had been there for a while. He has no prep or knowledge but he is just gonna star out by making 20 of himself and creating the portal and meteor? Seriously, guys. Think this through and actually read the battle. Not trying to be rude but it's like you guys just ignore what Gremmy does and ignore what Komamura can do. You guys keep back peddling to Kenpachi being halted once by Gremmy and acting like Bankai dangai Komamura can't put a scratch on him even though the difference in power is not that clear given the strength kenpachi used there, but you guys are acting like he did kendo or something and not just a casual slice. Also Gremmy needed to focus in order to do that, I'm not sure he can focus on himself while Komamura is continuously unaffected by everything he does, assuming it gets that far. Komamura is completely invincible for 20 minuets, Gremmy has no chance here, he has more than enough speed, power, intelligence, and reflexes to win here.

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Battles » Gremmy vs Dangai Komamura

@DBZ_universe: Both do absolutely nothing, Gremmy ends up killing V with the meteor while Komamura proceeds to one-shot him after being completely unaffected by it. Are you seriously trying to convince me that the meteor will kill someone who can't be killed and can survive being physically transformed into a bomb and detonated and not even flinch? Or that sternritter V a captain like Komamura wont be able to hit him easier than Yachiru? Any captain should have better reflexes than her, just like how Omeada is know for his speed among the lieutenants he still is slower than the average captain. Komamura wins here.

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Battles » Gremmy vs Dangai Komamura

@DBZ_universe said:

Lol Gremmy kills him.

He imagines Immortality never existed.

Gremmy wont know he is immortal... When Komamura was blown up or hit you hardly even noticed him regen or anything, it simply looked like nothing happened, Gremmy would not just assume that he is immortal otherwise he would have came to that conclusion with Kenpachi. He also has no knowledge here, even if he did by your logic he could have just imagined that kenpachi no longer had reiatsu or a zanpakuto, it was made very clear that his reality warping only worked on himself and creating things, the reality bending that affected people needed direct contact and form what was shown they had to be significantly weaker anyway. Like really? Arfter all the arguments you've seen here that is the conclusion you come to? A power Gremmy never demonstrated?

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Battles » Gremmy vs Dangai Komamura

@Jinbeifan1: I just explained why Komamura wins and how he can hurt Gremmy, admit when you are wrong. For starters Zaraki and Komamura never got a chance to fight Bankai Komamura, all Zaraki did was parry and throw Komamura once, he never beat him, Zaraki was getting mortally wounded by casual slashes by Tousen who is faar weaker than Komamura physically, You are also not getting how Komamura's immortality works, Gremmy simply CANNOT KILL HIM AT ALL, you are consistently low balling trying to make Komamura look weak. The space hole was not even thay big and wont really fit Komamura in there, also he can easily crawl out using his bankai or his own strength and there is nothing to suggest he can't and that is assuming the fight gets that far. Gremmy wont know how to fight Komamura so I dunno where you got the whole keeping his distance thing and Komamura was blitzing Bambi who demonstrated greater speed feats than Gremmy. Kenpachi was halted once due to Gremmy thinking himself harder than steel, Kenpachi cut through hierro before so of course it would do nothing, Kenpachi was not serious anyways, nothing to suggest Komamura would not be able to cut through him, seeing a giant sword and imagining that steel would stop it simply does not work. Again there is nothing to suggest Komamura does not simply crush this guy in one hit. Gremmy will tire himself out and Komamura will one shot him before or after he makes ameteor or whatever he wants to do. Seriusly, Gremmy loses here, I understand you don't like Komamura but seriously, give credit where credit is due. You even had to make up Kenpachi and bankai Komamura fighting. Zaraki's single handed patched sword slashes were never calced to be above Komamura's pre skip so I don't see how that changes now.

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Battles » Kazuma Kuwabara VS. The HST

Scenario 1: Speed equal

Scenario 2: Speed unequal

Distance is 20 meters, Kuwabara takes them one at a time and is healed after every fight, how far does he go? How far does he get with each verse? EoS Kuwabara

VS

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Battles » Gremmy vs Dangai Komamura

@Jinbeifan1: Bambietta has two different kinds of explosions as shown when she hit Komamura with the first ones to break his armor, Bambi clearly did not use the same kind of explosion, also she used her AoE move, she did not use the same technique on Shinji, her explosives are hax, once again you are lowballing to get your point across. Komamura doesn't just survive his initial attacks he survives all of them. Zaraki was cutting Gremmy up easily before using shikai, it you guys would actually get off the Komamura bias you would know he has more than enough power to harm Gremmy with the attack power shown opposed to Gremmy's durability. Gremmy did not take anything, once Kenpachi used Shikai he was slicing Gremmy clean in half, he simply had duplicates to take his place. Komamura was scaled to be one of the strongest physical captains with a strength class of 1.46 million tons pre skip: http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-general/sajin-komamuras-strength-calc-294208/ Gremmy has no real durability to scale from as Zaraki was easily hacking him apart, there is nothing to suggest Komamura cna't one shot him, Gremmy will also exhaust all his energy leaving him even weaker trying to take him out. Seriously, stop the lowballing and hate, Komamura takes this one, anyone who doesn't have straight us bias can see that.

Post by Boxer_Joe (305 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Gremmy vs Dangai Komamura

@Jinbeifan1: You are willingly undermining a feat and lowballing to get your point across; potency>>AoE, Bambietta TRANSFORMED KOMAMURA INTO THE BOMB AND DETONATED HIM AND IT DID NOTHING. It's more like comparing a black hole(Bambietta' s bombs in this case) to a heavy press machine, with the press machine(Gremmy's meteor in this case) it may be able to flatten steel easily but it has a limit, a black hole on the other hand will crush you regardless of durability. Komamura's immortality bypasses all conventional means of attack, and yes being crushed and blown apart by a meteor is a conventional attack so it would have no affect on Komamura. Like really? Are we really going to argue that Gremmy can in anyway take care of Komamura who is indestructible for a full 20 minuets? Gremmy loses here, badly.

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