aka_tsuki (Level 4)

oh this is third raikage. still see him winning this fight...

raikage takes this with mid-difficulty. he is faster and more durable. he tanked FRS which causes cellular level destruction

i don't see narutoverse beating powerful haxxed opponents which are a lot faster and more durable. barragan alone is a BIG threat to them. this isn't even funny

the wanking of blackbeard in this thread is ridiculous 

saying that one quake can kill him. i don't even bother arguing to someone who don't know the power of madara. implying him as a genin. i wonder why i even reply if this guy thinks they can beat edo madara. 
 
anyways i m leaving this thread, probably this forum as i don't see any proper debate whatsoever. going against facts and feats. and probably i can't respond to every wanker coming everyday. thats the reason i hate to do any hst threads especially one piece. as the immense amount of wanking won't let  anyone to prove anything.  
 
i m out

why the hell susanoo can't stand? its a city level defense. and so does wb's durability is city level. they are not standing up to his sword slashes.  and in using anything thats certain that ur stamina wastes. simply waving arms and making 'quakes' wastes the stamina really. dafuq they can't harm tobi whereas he can go where ever he want and BFR them. 

and madara just sit around? he can do the same thing with susanoo slashes. and yeah he has perfect susanoo for blocking it.. and then in et he regenerate. infinite stamina. i m sure there's not any thing as infinite stamina in wb. 
 
yea you u can prove anything with giving a one-sided argument. 

@Kurohige said:

Team one wins, sorry dude. Madara can use wood clones and whatever else but they both still lose, and yes, i will argue for them even beating edo Madara. Sorry, but if you think it's stupid debate why, simply saying it wont get you very far in this. I'm an open minded person so go for it.

mind to tell how? i would love to know how wb beating edo madara! 

@TheNeutralOne said:

Team one piece wins. No one in naruto has the durability of both of these tanks. Read One piece properly please because last I checked one quake can send madara and obito to their deaths. Not to mention they can double quake which means they can probably destroy an area of land in synchronization and just send that straight to hell. Also if whitebeard were to get a hold of madara and quake his face it would be over. Blackbeard's power is one of the main aspects in this fight because he can absorb all ranged blows before they came in to range and then spit them back out.

Durability-Team 1

Raw Power- Team 1

Martial Arts mastery- Team 2

Fighting Experience- Team 1

Ranged Damage- Team 1

Total Destructive Capabilities- Team 1

Speed- Questionably Team 2

If madara was edo- He would still lose because he still does not have the damage output to keep up with whitebeard. His body would probably be torn to shreds by the quake because he does not have haki. I would even argue the quakes could break the perfect susanoo because they shifted the earths plates entirely and even split an island clean in two. Madara would have no option but to retreat and wait for whitebeard to die but even then blackbeard could trap him in the blackhole and spit him into a pit of lava where he can just respawn and die over and over for eternity.

Lol i stopped reading when u said they can beat edo madara. i don't even bother arguing

@Yusuke52 said:

@aka_tsuki: @ohgodwhy:

Top 3 is him splitting Marineford with a single quake, It was split straight down to the seabed and the 3rd scan can confirm that given the gap in the giant fissure he created. As ohgodwhy said he was likely holding back so as not to hurt the pirates, It could have been much worse. Sengoku even comments that its surprising he could do that with half his face having been obliterated by Akainu (You can see it happening in the first scan top left, it was toned done in the anime only showing him losing half his beard).

Next one his him hitting Blackbeard in the face with a quake, and he comes out with only a few cuts and bruises.

Final one indicated that he was injured 267 times by swords, 152 times by bullets, and 46 times by cannon balls. It does not mention the attacks he suffered at the hands of the admirals and his heart attack that caused him to take an all out attack from Akainu to his body which more or less destroyed his organs. The fact that he died why standing shows just how resilient he was to everything.

Despite all his wounds and poor health from the start of the battle he still done all of this.

If he is in good health there is nothing that Madara can do to stop Whitebeard from sending him straight to oblivion with one quake at point blank range.

Madara is strong but Obito brings the whole team down due to lack of feats that puts him in the level of the other three. Madara might be able to handle one, but he is not taking down both.

 that gives him city level durability and city level destruction. so does madara have all that. perfect susanoo + susanoo sword. and a genjutsu hax. and its funny how u say obito is non-factor. he has some great hax. reality warping, BFR techniques and teleportation. in fact bb is 'non-factor' because his blackhole is slow. and he hasn't shown any feats of city level destruction he is best at town level. 
 
team 1 lacks hax

@ohgodwhy said:

Please read One Piece and not be biased. Thanks.

u are saying this when i proved that wb's one shots not city buster or something and i m up to date with both anime
 
if u think wb's powers are stronger so i wanna see his 'one-shot' attack i m pretty sure it is at the most large building level not any city level. even for the sake of argument i accepted that its city buster when people keep ignoring my words. ''it swung from far away in one shot slashed 2-3 mountains middle tops and mountains were so large that big sand dunes were looking tiny in comparison.'' but whatever now how about proving that wb can one - shot city level? i m clearly seeing a toasted wb with consecutive sword attacks. now if u just ignore my points and say 'go read the manga' then the actually being biased is you.
  
i have to agree with SpeedForceSpider on this. whenever i prove the fact that character of opverse is losing they go biased and starts talking off topic b.s like ''read the manga'' or even starts  trolling.. why just not prove the argument wrong? or even prove i m 'biased'? its as simple as that.  

and i think naruto is above with ET. thats just the way i see it 

@Jinbeifan1 said:

@aka_tsuki: really? ive never heard of her being light speed, can i have some posts plz?

actually she is FTL

spite thread.. priscilla is way faster than any of the hst

@Jinbeifan1 said:

@The Stegman said:

@ohgodwhy:

I wouldn't say Naruto could defeat Luffy by "ease" on any account. Luffy's shown himself to be more than a match to Naruto when he dodged the Pacifistas's beam with no difficulty what so ever, or at least he made it look that way.

I'm not going to compare speeds here because there is no way to compare speeds but I'm sure Naruto is not much faster than Luffy. In fact Luffy may be faster than Naruto given his ability to use Soru like effects even pre time skip.

Luffy also has his haki abilities which would let him read his opponent's attacks and create highly impermeable defences. He could also use the king's haki but I'm sure Naruto would have enough will to resist that.

Overall I still give this fight to Luffy though, but it could go either way because Naruto is definitely able to keep up with Luffy and we haven't seen the full extent of his bijuu powers.

Contrary to popular belief, the Pacifista beam wasn't going at light speed no where near that in fact, maybe supersonic, Naruto himself has gotten a great speed boost in his Kyuubi form, able to easily dodge a Kage level Lariat. As for Haki abilities, only one will work in my opinion, like you said, King's haki won't work, Naruto isn't weak willed, as for Kenbunshoku, it has a hard time predicting random, erratic attacks, that's exactly what the Fox shroud is, as Sasuke stated, it attacks on its own, making even Sasuke, with a fully developed sharingan have trouble following it. Bushoshoku might work, but I doubt even it can stand up to a mountain busting tailed beast bomb if Naruto goes to his beast form. For the first time in either anime, I think Naruto would win the majority of the fights at his current levels.

now i dont believe that the laser moves at light speed either, BUT it is massively above supersonic, I know that for sure.

a kage level lariat was dodged by Bee, that doesnt mean much.

Mantra works better than the sharingan in that sense, it is precognition, not the prediction of moves, as we have seen luffy dodging multiple water arrows moving at supersonic speed before.

the tailed beast bomb has to land to do damage, but as we have seen before, it can be deflect before it lands. Luffy I say moves just as fast if not faster than naruto does, even when he has gear 3rd activated. he can close in and seal the deal with elephant gun gatling

a kage level lariat was dodged by bee makes bee faster too.. 
 
indeed pre-cog haki works better than sharingan or rinnegan it has wider range. but can he dodge an attack calced at mountain level? can he dodge a mountain? it doesn't matter if he ha pre-cog power he can't go more than his speed. naruto and luffy got the same speed so i don't see him dodging any attack anyways.

funny how people comparing one shot swung from far away from whitebeard's overall attacks...  or i say wb's one shot attack is large building. but still can't match madara's even if we make it city buster (for the sake of argument)
 
all i know is direct or indirect consecutive hits  from sword would overkill wb. thats not even madara's one and only power anyways... rinnegan haxes, susanoo clones, wood clones and what not...   

still not impressive than madara's susanoo feat

and u still saying it city level due to cutting 'top of mountains' regardless i said he did all that with one slash from far away and those mountains were really so much big as sand dunes seems ants in comparing

mountains>>city level oh and he didn't one-shot city or something

and this is just the single power of madara we are talking about.

1 vs 1 bb can't take tobi as his power is very slow tobi could just stab him from back and kamui him for the win

if we'r counting six paths then i m all for team 2

o wait i didn't said rock level destruction try to be more observant its 'size'

u implied it by yourself that i m talking about small rock. there are a lot of big rocks...

and i m not talking about the area of marineford. its 'size' which still looks hill sized or a bit bigger

on the other hand u can imply the power output of susanoo sword swung from kilometers away in 1 slash destroyed 2-3 middle top of the mountains...and those big sand dunes looking like ants from mountains... gives the size of mountains

its actually hill/rock sized..its funny how u say it mountain size.. just because it covering the whole 'panel' (for the lack of better word) doesn't mean its mountain sized. just so u can imply the size of distance between hawkeyes and iceburg thingy. makes it hill/rock sized. going by your logic gear third is planet sized right?

and madara did the damage btw in the ground and mountains with one slash

and i actually believes feats more than hype

the fact that the power output of those attacks don't match madara's susanoo swing

at the most 2 slashes to end the fight

naruto stomps pretty easily

@Jinbeifan1 said:

@5th: just because it carved the ground as it went, doesnt make it a mountain buster. mihawk did something similar, slicing a mountain sized ice burg in half. hile that is impressive, thats only city busting material.

like i said before, BB could just absorb a bijuu bomb into darkness and send it back, even if its the big one. his darkness was able to stretch bery high over an island as shown in his fight with ace.

i keep forgeting to restrict that, he might as well be a logia type with that ability. its restricted, im changing it now.

yes it did cutted mountains in single slash..your just not getting this because u want team 1 to win...meh.. hawkeyes never did that it was hill/rock sized iceburg... and bb still takes damages.. also i see madara and tobi winning this w/o paths and non-edo.. still they both won't be able to kill madara and tobi first time.. no need to add regeneration to make it overkill for team 2.. now ur just trolling and overrating op characters... and downplaying madara,tobi

@5th: meh the whole slice thing is gonna become he said she said, you believe it counts as mountain busting, i believe it counts as city busting. fine then, lets get over that issue for now. btw, even if he did keep using that slash, a quake would match it and stop it, you still dont have anything to answer to one of their quakes, or possibly both at the same time. i've also said this already, but the bijuu bombs can easily be deflected away, so they can avoid or use it against their enemy in this situation. heck, if they wanted to, they could use a quake to block it or make it explode before hand on one of the bijuus. the ten tails is also featless, and unless the 8 or nine tails is here, then i dont see how he can summon it

it was more than mountain level as he slashed 2-3 mountains with several kilometers away in one-shot.. doesn't matter how u thinks..quakes can't match it... the power output is just too much...