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Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » kenpachi vs Sasuke

@othus12: That wouldn't matter since Gremmy's meteor was made completely from his imagination therefore it can't be labelled as "country level" because he specifically said it would destroy Seireitei

I still think it's island level.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » kenpachi vs Sasuke

@Zerogodlike said:

@5th said:

@Zerogodlike: Hatred? I used to love Bleach which is why I haven't given up on it yet... and please stop with the assumptions and focus on the debate otherwise you lose all credibility.

So what would you prefer then? The meteor to be the size of a mountain? Because that's what it sure as hell looked like when it went in contact with the barrier, as of already stated, it displaced enough weight to only destroy the very center of the barrier, you don't see its mass trying to fit through.

Now its the size of a mountain huh? the general opinion is that its Lowest end calc is low country level just because you don't want it to be that way doesn't mean its not the facts.

You're obviously ignorant to what I said... I'm not even going to mention it.

For the most part, I was making a joke on the meteor's appearance, never did I imply that the meteor was the actual size of a small mountain or something alike, although it could be, mass doesn't matter much, it's more so the velocity and speed of the meteor.

I can tell you aren't reading what I'm saying but that's fine, every one's entitled to their way of "reasoning."

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » kenpachi vs Sasuke

@othus12: Yes but it's too consistent to be an improper scale, it's size is even emphasized by the battles that always occur at the hill (specifically Ichigo and Byakuya.)

I'm not trying to imply that Seireitei is an ordinary city (on the contrary it isn't) but country level might be stretching it a bit. Mid or High Island level would work since there's nothing to suggest Seireitei is that truly BIG, but, in the future if there is ever any proper showings or credible sources and information, then I'll accept Seireitei as being monstrously big.

There's also the fillers, albeit they're fillers they show a lot of Seireitei, and a lot of the fights are visible in districts of Seireitei, Soi Fon's Bankai leveling a good part of Seireitei near the hill.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Gremmy vs Solomon

Did someone say BFR? Gremmy did.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » kenpachi vs Sasuke

@Zerogodlike: Hatred? I used to love Bleach which is why I haven't given up on it yet... and please stop with the assumptions and focus on the debate otherwise you lose all credibility.

So what would you prefer then? The meteor to be the size of a mountain? Because that's what it sure as hell looked like when it went in contact with the barrier, as of already stated, it displaced enough weight to only destroy the very center of the barrier, you don't see its mass trying to fit through.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » kenpachi vs Sasuke

Kenpachi is a beast but he has his limits as proven by the recent chapters, Sasuke has no need to worry, his speed, reflexes, and overall skills are superb to Kenpachi's that it's not even funny.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » kenpachi vs Sasuke

You people are way over your heels about Gremmy, hell, the debris of the meteor only caused city block destructive level... Even if the meteorite was pulverized, the shards would've carried the same kinetic force as did the actual meteor did.

Anyways, this is a win for Sasuke who has an entire utility belt of abilities he can use to take out Kenpachi without a single scratch.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » kenpachi vs Sasuke

@Zerogodlike said:

@othus12 said:

wow im kinda surprised to see all the people backing up sasuke.

Ken doesn't have the speed feats yet But Ichigo probably will i forgot how did it take for him to get to the seiretei. Prob gonna have to wait till next week tho.

@5th:

haven't you gotten tired of trying to low ball bleach each time?

I want you to explain to me as to how Seireitei is the size of Germany without going off vague claims and statements. After all, as I can recall, you did make a mentioning of Seireitei being Germany from the past threads I've read.

@othus12 said:

I've debunked this in another thread.

how is that even debunkable? lol.

Basic observation. The hill in Seireitei is consistently and visibly shown in the manga, had Seireitei been the size of an actual country, wouldn't the hill be the size of a mountain? And the towers of cities? And by country size, you mean Seireitei's the size of Nigeria or Turkey? I would accept Seireitei as being somewhere roughly the same size as an island like Puerto Rico because there's never been any accurate showings or information confirming the true form of Seireitei.

Also, read the article LWH posted since you all don't like pixel scaling, it's pretty accurate from what it seems.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » kenpachi vs Sasuke

@Kurohige said:

Yeah, Zaraki can't take nearly the same amount he can dish out (Country busting attacks), Sasuke is far smarter, versatile, and had the power needed to put Zaraki down. He can place him in a genjutsu, not one that would immobilize him but similar to what he did to Danzo to go for an Aizen-like effect and trick Zaraki. In addition, perfect Susanoo is very powerful; it was chopping up pseudo-meteors like no problem well before they hit the ground. Zaraki can one-shot Sasuke but it wont happen since Sasuke is too fast and has a variety of told to keep distance or avoid getting hit such as genjutsus, rinnegan, clones ect. Zaraki is the better fighter but Sasuke is the better warrior.

@LHWKnight said:

Sasuke because Perfect flying Susanoo is country buster level. he has the speed advantage here (Ken shouldn't be able to keep up)

Sasuke has Sage black Chidori and Rinnegan with a lot of abilities that has yet to be seen. Kenpachi has Shikai which is at best island or +.

Their is also Sasuke's Teleportation abilities and Chidori sharp spear that was powerful enough to cut Madara in half, something that Gai failed to do in eight gate mode.

It seems like you're downplaying Bleach a bit; the meteor was going to destroy the entire Serietei, that place is huge, a meteor that size would wipe a good portion of a large country off the map let alone one summoned by Gremmy. That meteor was far above city level, that was a small country level feat at least.

The meteor wasn't country level, it wasn't even shown to be that large and only displaced enough weight to destroy the center of the barrier, plus Seireitei isn't the size of an actual country, I've debunked this in another thread.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Current Madara, Sasuke, Naruto Vs Straw Hat Pirates, Whitebeard

Throwing in the Admirals won't even make a difference.

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Battles » Current Madara, Sasuke, Naruto Vs Straw Hat Pirates, Whitebeard

@phantomrant:

This may answer your question. Open it with a window if you can't zoom in.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Mount Turtle Vs Madara, Sasuke, Naruto

@Jgames said:

Neither are continent level, especially naruto and sasuke, mount turtle I get and might be around country or island buster, but naruto and sasuke has no country or continent busting feat, so yeah they still losed.

Naruto and Sasuke are definitely country level busters, low ones at that, Naruto and Sasuke were destroying meteors that were capable of dwarfing mountains.

Naruto sliced the Shinju Tree, the same tree that could be seen from the mesosphere.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Current Madara, Sasuke, Naruto Vs Straw Hat Pirates, Whitebeard

@othus12: Somewhere like Spain, Sweden, or Germany.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Current Madara, Sasuke, Naruto Vs Straw Hat Pirates, Whitebeard

@Jinbeifan1: It's cool, we all make mistakes lol

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Current Madara, Sasuke, Naruto Vs Straw Hat Pirates, Whitebeard

@Jinbeifan1: Mount turtler is kind of irrelevant, the whole topic of this thread is One Piece characters vs. Naruto characters.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Current Madara, Sasuke, Naruto Vs Straw Hat Pirates, Whitebeard

@Jinbeifan1 said:

@5th: He's definitely country level now, not Toriko country level but definitely tiny country level.

Tiny Country Level is still downgrading, It's definitely mid + country level, he leveled both the Frost and Rain countries with Chibaku Tensei

@othus12 said:

@LHWKnight: they showed low country level. never forget the scale. their planet is not our earth.

Mid Country level

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Current Madara, Sasuke, Naruto Vs Straw Hat Pirates, Whitebeard

@LHWKnight: Those shards from Madara's Chibaku Tensei were noticeably big enough to crush and dwarf an entire range of mountains upon impacting the surface.

It's crazy people are still trying to downplay Naruto when the showings are easy to see and recognize.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Ridoku Sennin Naruto, Rinnegan Sasuke Vs Mellow Cola Toriko,Zebra

High-Country level. Low country level is downgrading Madara, and after the credible source I provided, I don't see any reason why Madara shouldn't be above country level.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Current Madara, Sasuke, Naruto Vs Straw Hat Pirates, Whitebeard

@Zerogodlike: Naruto is a country buster.... a very casual one at that.

Post by 5th (1,248 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Off-Topic » rate the image above you

9 because Raiden is epic.

I don't know why but I'm infatuated with this image because it's the first time Madara has ever been shown in despair, his face reads a sense of mixed pity with helplessness, like someone about to die and isn't ready... it's rare for Madara to break his composure, but I believe this is one of those times where he did.

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