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Battles » Hashirama, Madara, Guy, Sasuke, Naruto, Obito Vs Nappa

@taichokage: Bleach EOS might surpass Naruto

Juha Bach is ridiculously powerful if you look at how much room of development he has for his abilities (All the Sternritter's shrifts and souls return to him and he has Yamamoto's bankai to add)

I think Ichigo is going to need help from people like Aizen to beat Juha Bach

Post by 5th (1,336 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Hashirama, Madara, Guy, Sasuke, Naruto, Obito Vs Nappa

Nappa's arrogance will lead to his defeat.

Eight Gate Guy is faster and has physical blows that can hurt Nappa

The rest of the Naruto team have molecular destruction and hax

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Battles » Tommyrod & Grinpatch VS Nappa / Raditz

Thing is, DBZ characters are only so cocky when they're faced with an opponent near their strength

Weaklings aren't even given the chance to retaliate before they're bombarded with kai blasts

Team DBZ should take this

Nappa is moon level and Raditz has country level dc, the two together could just fly and spam kai blasts

Nappa also has his kai aura that acts as an armor

Post by 5th (1,336 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Akuma vs Kenpachi

We don't know if he does

But a good hit from his Shikai should give him a win

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Battles » Kaguya vs Hendricksen

How am I blowing this out of proportion? A casual Rasen Shuriken mixed with Son Goku's Chakra was enough to slice the God Tree, the God Tree had country level AoE and the capacity to cover an entire map.

Naruto threw 9 at her simultaneously, all with varying abilities and destruction.

Madara's droplets of land were large island level and were being destroyed by the Nine's tails Rasen Shurikens, Naruto could spam multiple of these.

And yes the moon Naruto and Sasuke created was continental level

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Battles » Kaguya vs Hendricksen

@akronawol17: Her attack reached across multiple lands and parts of her dimension that seemed endless

A single Bijuu Rasen Shuriken from Naruto was scaled to be country level, Naruto sent 9 simultaneously at her and she tanked it.

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Post by 5th (1,336 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kaguya vs Hendricksen

@akronawol17:

Again, you can't use that to gauge her strength

And her arm got sliced off by a gudou dama, Gudou dama's cause molecular destruction, therefore, it was only reasonable her arm got off.

Naruto's combined tailed beasts rasen shurikens are continental level and she tanked that

She's way above country level by a lot

Post by 5th (1,336 posts) See mini bio Level 10
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Battles » Kaguya vs Hendricksen

Kaguya is pretty resilient, the fact that they needed a continental chibaku tensei to seal her further supports this.

She has great reactions, near relativistic I believe, and has the ability to merge with the environment and BFR opponents into her own personal dimensions.

She also has her bones to add that can pierce Perfect Susano'o armor and the ability to manipulate gravity,

Crazy regeneration, her durability is crazy, she tanked the combined force of Naruto's Bijuu Rasen Shuriken's from each Tailed Beast's own powers

She has continental durability.

And you can't use Sakura's hit to gauge her strength, the only reason that happened was because Sasuke and Naruto was there to stop her, Sakura's hit didn't do shit but stopped her from escaping.

Kaguya was creating a giant Gudou Dama; molecular destruction, her Gudou Dama was going to consume her world and create a new dimension I guess.

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Battles » Kureo Mado vs. Lucy

They're getting a season two.

Lucy stomps with ease

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Battles » Kaguya vs. Akatsuki

Kaguya slaughters

How is this even debatable?

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Battles » Weakest Saint that can defeat Bills

@GrayWolf2: I'll agree with everything you said because it's true; however, the saints speed far surpasses that of Bill's because

they are FTL or MFTL in combat, Gold Cloth's have sick traveling speed (MFTL, they crossed Hades' hyper dimension.), and Gold Saints in general are just so much faster in everything.

Bills couldn't contend unless you're implying Bills has FTL combat and reactions, Capricorn Shura was dodging Shiryu's Dragon Fists that were FTL because of the Seventh Sense, Virgo Shaka was holding off three Gold Saints with his speed alone (Escaped another dimension which is a FTL feat), Gemini Saga was wrecking Seiya and Ikki in H2H; both with the seventh sense and upgrade in powers. Andromeda Shun was casually dodging light speed beams from Aphrodite but failed to escape Pisces Aphrodite's roses, there's so many cases where Gold Saints just become ridiculously fast.

And Poseidon's pillars were no joke, they weren't ordinary pillars; they were blessed and created by Poseidon himself, who's cosmos was said by Seiya was close to encompassing the Universe. Even the Seven Guardians themselves needed Gold Saint or stronger level opponents just to be defeated.

There's also the feats I posted above to show that the Gold Saints are just as powerful.

Episode G btw was illustrated by Kurumada himself, just the art was done by someone else, so technically it's canon to the SS history.

But the Saints do pale in comparison in terms of actual strength, but their hax'ness makes up for that.

@mangafanVT said:

That's Omega, the shitty non-canon aborted Saint Seiya

In no way should Omega be taken as being credible for SS, Omega ruined SS.

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Battles » Space Dandy Vs Simon/Sttgl

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

@CosmicKnight75: Watch the season finale, he collapse a multiverse with a punch and turns down becoming a god so that he can go to Boobies in a physical form.

All of this is very true.

Space Dandy was practically omnipotent at the end of the series.

Post by 5th (1,336 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kujaku vs Madara

This guy looks like Nagato

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Post by 5th (1,336 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Meninas McAllon vs Sakura Haruno

Meninas cause she hotter IMO

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Battles » Weakest Saint that can defeat Bills

@GrayWolf2 said:

@5th: From what I read about episode G it seems it's non canon so why bother bringing it up? You make Hades alignment sound like it was just he thought it and boom it happened which wasn't the case. It took centuries of planning and hours to not even accomplish. A universal+ level being who needs hours to align planets...I don't think so. Oh yes the power of the big bang which barely destroyed a garden. And when two of them collided and the saints couldn't even control them anymore it wrecked a sanctuary. Way to go. Sorry bud but they do not have the destructive capacity you claim. Good potency and great hax but those planets blowing up in the background of their attacks are just rpg-esque illusions. @mangafanVT said:

@GrayWolf2: Sure in DC like i stated they aren't so impressive but they win via their hax and birusu's dura would be just..

Bypassed since they focus attacks inside the body (just like dark schneider with judas priest)

so unless dbz has hax defense against atom busting attacks

i dont see them winning

the saints wins via speed and hax alone

however in raw strengh and dc i give it to the dbz verse.

I can agree with this. To defend bills I thought I'd read in the synopsis of BOG that he resisted buu's transmutation candy beam which I believe would be atomic level resistance to a degree at least. Super Vegito kept his thought processes as well when he was turned to candy so I think characters of this level could handle such potency of strikes. Lesser ones which is the majority of the cast...maybe not. I still believe Bills could get past the gold saints.

Centuries of planning and hours to not even accomplish? I'm guessing you've never read or watched SS

You're trying to say Hades needed prep? It takes Hades 243 years for him to able to enter the human world and find the purest human to control, as soon as he took over Andromeda's body, he quickly went to initiating the solar eclipse, how exactly is that a "very long time." Unless you're trying to imply Hades never had the power to do so without prep in which you're wrong because his plan didn't require any prep, just finding an avatar takes 243 years.

I just explained Hades wasn't in his real body or in his Kamui, he was in his weakest state.

Explained earlier the Saints focus their energy levels to atomic destruction, takes way more power to annihilate than destroy.

Gemini Kanon wiped out a solar system with his suicide attack

Time and space is bended in Hades' Hyper Dimension; which is larger than our own.

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Battles » Weakest Saint that can defeat Bills

@GrayWolf2 said:

I highly doubt anyone in saint seiya is galaxy level or higher. Power of 12 gold saints equalled power of the sun on a small scale and it killed them. It was stated hades biggest goal was the destruction of the sun and the best he could do was slowly block it out. This took hours and it would only lifewipe the planet. If he was universal like I've heard people claim then couldn't he just blink it away. Or send one of the lesser gods like thanatos to destroy it. What makes the saint seiya verse powerful is their speed and hax attacks or defense in shun's case. I still rate it a little higher than dbz overall but I'm not too sure sometimes.

It was the power of their Gold Cloth's, three Gold Saints can emulate the power of the Big Bang

Hades in his weakest form could cause a solar alignment with just a thought

Hades is Universal+, he has a hyper dimension larger than our own Universe and was casually slapping around the God Saints

He wanted to destroy humanity, not the Earth

The saints focus their power so they don't destroy the earth or anything, that's like a rule in the SS verse

In Ep G they were fighting the Titans in their sealed forms, the Titans could bend reality and destroy stars at a casual level

Post by 5th (1,336 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Weakest Saint that can defeat Bills

The saints are ridiculously fast, they're MFTL

They were dodging light speed and FTL attacks from Gold Saints and staying on par with Gold Saints like Scorpio Milos (Blitz two bronze saints, both with the seventh sense), survived and fought Gemini Saga who's punches can pierce Gold Cloth and move FTL, and dodge attacks like Lightning Plasma (A billion punches per second).

There's no way Bills is going to be on par with their speed, especially not in H2H combat.

That and each of their attacks are hax with the ability to atomize their opponents,

Gemini Saga could release the force of the explosion of a galaxy.

Seiya's Pegasus Ryu Sei Kei stalemated Leo's lightning plasma

Shun's chains are cross dimensional and FTL

Ikki Phoenix can't die, even after having his senses removed and his brain destroyed/fried by Virgo Shaka

Hyoga has absolute zero and FTL ice attacks that freeze at absolute zero

and Shiryu has FTL combat and the sword of Excalibur that can cut through anything at a atomic scale

Bills could give a fight but overall the Saints would take it unless it's before the Temples Arc

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