How am I blowing this out of proportion? A casual Rasen Shuriken mixed with Son Goku's Chakra was enough to slice the God Tree, the God Tree had country level AoE and the capacity to cover an entire map.
Naruto threw 9 at her simultaneously, all with varying abilities and destruction.
Madara's droplets of land were large island level and were being destroyed by the Nine's tails Rasen Shurikens, Naruto could spam multiple of these.
And yes the moon Naruto and Sasuke created was continental level
@GrayWolf2: I'll agree with everything you said because it's true; however, the saints speed far surpasses that of Bill's because
they are FTL or MFTL in combat, Gold Cloth's have sick traveling speed (MFTL, they crossed Hades' hyper dimension.), and Gold Saints in general are just so much faster in everything.
Bills couldn't contend unless you're implying Bills has FTL combat and reactions, Capricorn Shura was dodging Shiryu's Dragon Fists that were FTL because of the Seventh Sense, Virgo Shaka was holding off three Gold Saints with his speed alone (Escaped another dimension which is a FTL feat), Gemini Saga was wrecking Seiya and Ikki in H2H; both with the seventh sense and upgrade in powers. Andromeda Shun was casually dodging light speed beams from Aphrodite but failed to escape Pisces Aphrodite's roses, there's so many cases where Gold Saints just become ridiculously fast.
And Poseidon's pillars were no joke, they weren't ordinary pillars; they were blessed and created by Poseidon himself, who's cosmos was said by Seiya was close to encompassing the Universe. Even the Seven Guardians themselves needed Gold Saint or stronger level opponents just to be defeated.
There's also the feats I posted above to show that the Gold Saints are just as powerful.
Episode G btw was illustrated by Kurumada himself, just the art was done by someone else, so technically it's canon to the SS history.
But the Saints do pale in comparison in terms of actual strength, but their hax'ness makes up for that.
That's Omega, the shitty non-canon aborted Saint Seiya
In no way should Omega be taken as being credible for SS, Omega ruined SS.
@5th: From what I read about episode G it seems it's non canon so why bother bringing it up? You make Hades alignment sound like it was just he thought it and boom it happened which wasn't the case. It took centuries of planning and hours to not even accomplish. A universal+ level being who needs hours to align planets...I don't think so. Oh yes the power of the big bang which barely destroyed a garden. And when two of them collided and the saints couldn't even control them anymore it wrecked a sanctuary. Way to go. Sorry bud but they do not have the destructive capacity you claim. Good potency and great hax but those planets blowing up in the background of their attacks are just rpg-esque illusions. @mangafanVTsaid:
@GrayWolf2: Sure in DC like i stated they aren't so impressive but they win via their hax and birusu's dura would be just..
Bypassed since they focus attacks inside the body (just like dark schneider with judas priest)
so unless dbz has hax defense against atom busting attacks
i dont see them winning
the saints wins via speed and hax alone
however in raw strengh and dc i give it to the dbz verse.
I can agree with this. To defend bills I thought I'd read in the synopsis of BOG that he resisted buu's transmutation candy beam which I believe would be atomic level resistance to a degree at least. Super Vegito kept his thought processes as well when he was turned to candy so I think characters of this level could handle such potency of strikes. Lesser ones which is the majority of the cast...maybe not. I still believe Bills could get past the gold saints.
Centuries of planning and hours to not even accomplish? I'm guessing you've never read or watched SS
You're trying to say Hades needed prep? It takes Hades 243 years for him to able to enter the human world and find the purest human to control, as soon as he took over Andromeda's body, he quickly went to initiating the solar eclipse, how exactly is that a "very long time." Unless you're trying to imply Hades never had the power to do so without prep in which you're wrong because his plan didn't require any prep, just finding an avatar takes 243 years.
I just explained Hades wasn't in his real body or in his Kamui, he was in his weakest state.
Explained earlier the Saints focus their energy levels to atomic destruction, takes way more power to annihilate than destroy.
Gemini Kanon wiped out a solar system with his suicide attack
Time and space is bended in Hades' Hyper Dimension; which is larger than our own.
I highly doubt anyone in saint seiya is galaxy level or higher. Power of 12 gold saints equalled power of the sun on a small scale and it killed them. It was stated hades biggest goal was the destruction of the sun and the best he could do was slowly block it out. This took hours and it would only lifewipe the planet. If he was universal like I've heard people claim then couldn't he just blink it away. Or send one of the lesser gods like thanatos to destroy it. What makes the saint seiya verse powerful is their speed and hax attacks or defense in shun's case. I still rate it a little higher than dbz overall but I'm not too sure sometimes.
It was the power of their Gold Cloth's, three Gold Saints can emulate the power of the Big Bang
Hades in his weakest form could cause a solar alignment with just a thought
Hades is Universal+, he has a hyper dimension larger than our own Universe and was casually slapping around the God Saints
He wanted to destroy humanity, not the Earth
The saints focus their power so they don't destroy the earth or anything, that's like a rule in the SS verse
In Ep G they were fighting the Titans in their sealed forms, the Titans could bend reality and destroy stars at a casual level
They were dodging light speed and FTL attacks from Gold Saints and staying on par with Gold Saints like Scorpio Milos (Blitz two bronze saints, both with the seventh sense), survived and fought Gemini Saga who's punches can pierce Gold Cloth and move FTL, and dodge attacks like Lightning Plasma (A billion punches per second).
There's no way Bills is going to be on par with their speed, especially not in H2H combat.
That and each of their attacks are hax with the ability to atomize their opponents,
Gemini Saga could release the force of the explosion of a galaxy.
Seiya's Pegasus Ryu Sei Kei stalemated Leo's lightning plasma
Shun's chains are cross dimensional and FTL
Ikki Phoenix can't die, even after having his senses removed and his brain destroyed/fried by Virgo Shaka
Hyoga has absolute zero and FTL ice attacks that freeze at absolute zero
and Shiryu has FTL combat and the sword of Excalibur that can cut through anything at a atomic scale
Bills could give a fight but overall the Saints would take it unless it's before the Temples Arc