@5th: From what I read about episode G it seems it's non canon so why bother bringing it up? You make Hades alignment sound like it was just he thought it and boom it happened which wasn't the case. It took centuries of planning and hours to not even accomplish. A universal+ level being who needs hours to align planets...I don't think so. Oh yes the power of the big bang which barely destroyed a garden. And when two of them collided and the saints couldn't even control them anymore it wrecked a sanctuary. Way to go. Sorry bud but they do not have the destructive capacity you claim. Good potency and great hax but those planets blowing up in the background of their attacks are just rpg-esque illusions. @mangafanVT said:
@GrayWolf2: Sure in DC like i stated they aren't so impressive but they win via their hax and birusu's dura would be just..
Bypassed since they focus attacks inside the body (just like dark schneider with judas priest)
so unless dbz has hax defense against atom busting attacks
i dont see them winning
the saints wins via speed and hax alone
however in raw strengh and dc i give it to the dbz verse.
I can agree with this. To defend bills I thought I'd read in the synopsis of BOG that he resisted buu's transmutation candy beam which I believe would be atomic level resistance to a degree at least. Super Vegito kept his thought processes as well when he was turned to candy so I think characters of this level could handle such potency of strikes. Lesser ones which is the majority of the cast...maybe not. I still believe Bills could get past the gold saints.
Centuries of planning and hours to not even accomplish? I'm guessing you've never read or watched SS
You're trying to say Hades needed prep? It takes Hades 243 years for him to able to enter the human world and find the purest human to control, as soon as he took over Andromeda's body, he quickly went to initiating the solar eclipse, how exactly is that a "very long time." Unless you're trying to imply Hades never had the power to do so without prep in which you're wrong because his plan didn't require any prep, just finding an avatar takes 243 years.
I just explained Hades wasn't in his real body or in his Kamui, he was in his weakest state.
Explained earlier the Saints focus their energy levels to atomic destruction, takes way more power to annihilate than destroy.
Gemini Kanon wiped out a solar system with his suicide attack
Time and space is bended in Hades' Hyper Dimension; which is larger than our own.