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Battles » Kenpachi & Mount Turtle vs Madara & Obito

@SepHIIIrotH said:

@5th said:

Pretty sure

Mount Turtle => Madara => Juubito => Kenpachi

Unless you're implying Kenpachi has the speed to keep up with Juubito, the durability to tank multi-mountain busting Bijuu Dama's, island level destruction, molecular destruction.

Kenpachi may be very powerful but he lacks power in other fields besides DC.

speed is completely unquantifiable for either side so bringing that up is irrelevant, kenpachi is very well above country level so multi mountain or island level ( which are mid tier in bleach ) aren't a problem, molecular destruction means nothing, if you think it ignores durability then you're wrong.

I am aware, and Kenpachi isn't well above country level in durability, Gremmy's bombs caused some major injuries to him.

And if you honestly think Kenpachi is immune to molecular destruction then you're an idiot.

Unquantifiable? What is Kenpachi going to do if all his opponent has to do is tag him one to kill him? Kenpachi in no way is surviving nor regenerating from molecular destruction unless you're trying to imply that he has regeneration or durability that can ignore or regen from molecular destruction then show me feats.

In fact, Kenpachi got blitzed by the Stern Ritter girls; specifically Candice who (Despite Kenpachi having the advantage of surprise) outmaneuvered Kenpachi when he tried to strike her.

Obito was tagging opponents that could move in double and triple digits (Minato, Hashirama, Tobirama, Naruto, Sasuke.) and fought the combine power of a Perfect Susano'o and Bijuu Mode Naruto who together at that time could be taken as large island level.

I'm pretty sure if Gremmy's explosions could incapacitate Kenpachi then so can a Bijuu Dama, which Obito was shown to spam (Juubi's Bijuu Dama's.)

Juubito also has his barrier that has taken high country level blasts.

In what way does Kenpachi have better than Juubito besides destroying a meteor?

Post by 5th (1,194 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Meruem vs Daemon Spade

@taichokage: Just a question of curiosity,

What are Daemon Spade's feats?

Post by 5th (1,194 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kenpachi & Mount Turtle vs Madara & Obito

Pretty sure

Mount Turtle => Madara => Juubito => Kenpachi

Unless you're implying Kenpachi has the speed to keep up with Juubito, the durability to tank multi-mountain busting Bijuu Dama's, island level destruction, molecular destruction.

Kenpachi may be very powerful but he lacks power in other fields besides DC.

Post by 5th (1,194 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kenpachi & Mount Turtle vs Madara & Obito

@othus12 said:

@5th said:

@Zerogodlike said:

@taichokage:

not only that its no guarantee that it even works on animals.

Actually it hypnotized a house cat.

the true quetioning is: there is no gurantee it works on country level characters.

anyways that is supposing madara doesnt get engulfed in the USA sized blast made by MT Turtle.

It wouldn't matter.

Strength nor power doesn't play a part in mind control; physical attributes are ignored.

It's a matter of whether a character has a strong mental will or he's a powerful user.

Both Kenpachi and Mount Turtle lack feats of mental prowess

Post by 5th (1,194 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kenpachi & Mount Turtle vs Madara & Obito

@Zerogodlike said:

@taichokage:

not only that its no guarantee that it even works on animals.

Actually it hypnotized a house cat.

Post by 5th (1,194 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kagura Mikazuchi Vs Bambietta Basterbine

Pretty sure Bambietta takes this,

1. Flight

2. Large AoE

3. Spammed explosions that can't be blocked

Unless you're implying Kagura has the speed to avoid Bambietta's bombs.

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Battles » Kenpachi & Mount Turtle vs Madara & Obito

Pretty sure Juubito is more faster than Zaraki, unless you're going to argue that blitzing all the Kage's, Naruto, and Sasuke wasn't that impressive.

Although I'm not going to argue that Team Two loses because of the Mount Turtle; however, Juubito also has regeneration at a molecular level, Gudou Dama's with the power to tank three giant Juubi Dama's, etc.

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Battles » Organization 13 vs the Akatsuki

This thread has been done before already.

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Battles » Cooking Festival Arc Toriko Vs Kaguya Ōtsutsuki

@DevilMayhem666: I'm pretty positive Kishimoto never intended her to be a villain up until the War Arc.

She wasn't ever mentioned during the Kage Summit Arc, that's far from the war.

No built up, relevance, or anything from the beginning up until now.

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Battles » Cooking Festival Arc Toriko Vs Kaguya Ōtsutsuki

@SMXLR8: Well, to be specific, I hate Kishimoto.

The thing is, Madara pretty much had everything going on for him in terms of being the antagonist and a huge character in the series.

It was established since the start of Shippuden and in Shonen Jump that Madara was pretty relevant despite being a fossil character, he was used as the main villain, and all his objectives, goals, and meaning were founded throughout the series, he basically had a huge built up and story. And he fucking executed it so well, his character is so well done in my opinion, everything about him, he's this almighty powerful shinobi who lived up to his hype, and that's not it but he also has a past to define him, a reason for doing everything, his character had a lot of conviction... now to see this type of character get killed off in two chapters is just... just... unfathomable!

And to learn that everything ABOUT Madara was really influenced by someone with no type of built up or relevance to the story up until now? It's the worse type of punishment I've ever seen an antagonist endure!

What was the point of Obito's charade? What was the point of Madara's resurrection? What was the point of making this antagonist play the main antagonist role just to kill him off in the most laughable and humiliating way possible? Everything about the series just seems to be in vain.

Kaguya had no built up, she just appeared out of the blue, and to make things worse, Madara didn't even receive the appropriate death.

And these are my reasons why I'm so upset with Kishimoto.

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Battles » Cooking Festival Arc Toriko Vs Kaguya Ōtsutsuki

She's pretty haxed, I think she's going pretty easy on Sasuke and Naruto from the looks of it.

And she did overpower Naruto and survive Sasuke's attack which destroyed an entire volcano

I'd say give it some time and eventually she'll do something even more impressive,

Btw I still hate her.

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Battles » Aioros and Aioria (SS) VS Saga and Kanon (SS)

Gemini brothers, they're overall more powerful than Aioros and Aiolos

Especially with Galaxian Explosion.

Post by 5th (1,194 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Hiei vs Sasuke vs Zoro vs Renji

PS, there are four combatants therefore Hiei isn't going to immediately come at Sasuke as soon as the fight begins,

Sasuke with PS has flight and island cutting force

There's also the fact that Sasuke has teleportation, sealing, and crazy cutting power; bisecting Madara with complete ease.

Renji's a tough cookie too, he took a large town level attack and survived a barrage of punches capable of reaching distances such as one mile.

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Battles » Juubi Mardara Uchiha Vs EoS Dio Brando

@nishi99 said:

@5th said:

@nishi99 said:

@5th: So because other people say he wins it means its true?

1. Madara Limbo's are useless in the frozen time.

2. Dio could drain his blood in the frozen time or he could simply use one of his parasites to control Madara's mind. He could also freeze his whole body if the blood freezing doesn't work.

3. Dio's stand is FTL, so Madara is slow in comparison.

Draining, freezing, or doing anything to Madara's blood wouldn't work considering the guy can regenerate just from his molecules because of the Juubi's powers/Senju DNA

The most effective way to beat him would, as you said, use his parasites to control him, but I am doubtful of the parasites influences since I don't know how strong Dio's mind controlling is.

While his stand is FTL, he still won't be able to see or detect Madara's limbo's

Either way you put it, Dio has no way of killing Madara who's soaked and tanked better attacks and damage.

I would say this is a stalemate, unless Dio's punches are equivalent to Night Moth.

1. Like i said he can still freeze his whole body into a block of ice if need be.

2. As for the parasites Madara has not displayed resistance to mind control. His only hope would be the Juubi breaking him out of the control.

3. Madara's limbo's are useless in the frozen time, so it doesn't matter much if Dio can't see them.

4. Light speed punches >>> Night Moth. Even without his stand Dio still has light speed reactions.

1. Unless you're implying Dio has absolute zero which stops molecular movement, then that won't work

2. Most likely

3. Frozen Time has a short span as said before

5. I thought you said his Stand was FTL in speed, unless you're trying to say his stand has FTL combat then I want proof

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Battles » Juubi Mardara Uchiha Vs EoS Dio Brando

@nishi99 said:

@5th: So because other people say he wins it means its true?

1. Madara Limbo's are useless in the frozen time.

2. Dio could drain his blood in the frozen time or he could simply use one of his parasites to control Madara's mind. He could also freeze his whole body if the blood freezing doesn't work.

3. Dio's stand is FTL, so Madara is slow in comparison.

Draining, freezing, or doing anything to Madara's blood wouldn't work considering the guy can regenerate just from his molecules because of the Juubi's powers/Senju DNA

The most effective way to beat him would, as you said, use his parasites to control him, but I am doubtful of the parasites influences since I don't know how strong Dio's mind controlling is.

While his stand is FTL, he still won't be able to see or detect Madara's limbo's

Either way you put it, Dio has no way of killing Madara who's soaked and tanked better attacks and damage.

I would say this is a stalemate, unless Dio's punches are equivalent to Night Moth.

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Battles » Current Ichigo Vs Shichibukai

@Jinbeifan1: I think Renji's going to fight Nanana, he just interfered with Bazz B's attack.

After all, Nanana was following Renji up until now.

The Soul Reapers are totally outnumbered though, how is this going to work? Will Byakuya fight Mr. Geh Geh Geh? Or will he fight Commissioner Gordon and Geh Geh Geh?

I can see Rukia taking on Bazz B or the Fem Ritters.

The lieutenants might fight the Fem Ritters, I can see that.

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Battles » Juubi Mardara Uchiha Vs EoS Dio Brando

@nishi99: Doesn't matter, even other people on here agree that Madara would win despite knowing Dio's abilities

Madara has molecular destruction, can Dio regenerate from his molecules?

Dio will be unable to see or detect Madara's Limbo's

Madara isn't slow

Chibaku Tensei isn't even necessary

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Battles » Juubi Mardara Uchiha Vs EoS Dio Brando

>Freezing blood won't work against someone who has some resistance to molecular destruction

>Regeneration

>Madara got half his body obliterated by Night Moth; a relativistic kick (hype)

>Has Four invisible clones that are invisible, intangible, and nigh-invincible without someone who has Sage Release.

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Battles » Current Ichigo Vs Shichibukai

Turns out those Cheetah girls weren't no joke,

Fucking Lady Meninas slammed Ichigo's ass through eight different buildings, that's a pretty impressive feat given Commissioner Gordon gave Ichigo praise for not being fazed by it (the same guy who took out Shunsui's eye.)

I'm expecting the females to show more, they are definitely not fodder which I'm glad they're not

Mr. Geh Geh Geh (Pepe) is probably going to fight Byakuya.

I don't know why the other lieutenants are there, they're basically fodders.

Nanana is going to fight Renji.

Yeah, I still don't know why the lieutenants are there :P they're gonna get the Mask treatment again

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Battles » Sasuke vs Killua

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